Some Say Boxing Is A Sport

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Monday, October 21, 2019 7:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"Who are you or anybody else to decide that for them?"

I think any sport that routinely results in brain damage should be banned in elementary, middle, and high schools. After that, whatever people chose to do is fine with me.

But it seems crazy to me that people are being permanently brain damaged just so some Joe Sixpack can get his steam up on a sunday with his beer and chips and buds, and turn off the tv and forget about it till the next game. Sheesh. Talk about life being cheap. We might as well have a sport where people play Russian Roulette.

I think you are absolutely right in terms of these sports (any causing brain impairment) should be modified for anyone 18 and under. I believe that will eventually happen. I love soccer/futbol, but I cringe when I see any soccer athlete heading the ball. That ball is a lot harder than most people think. I don't know of any specific studies, but just simple observation says it can't be good, especially for a young brain and especially over time.

But after 18? 21? it's up to you.

You really don't understand sports if you think this is all, " just so some Joe Sixpack can get his steam up on a sunday with his beer and chips and buds." That's an incredibly simple sub 80 IQ view of the subject. The athletes live for this. It is their whole lives, and by now all of them know the risks in a much more profound way than any of us can.

SIGNYM

Monday, October 21, 2019 9:26 PM

Tackle football IN SCHOOL would not exist without A LOT of school and parental involvement. The uniforms, the stadia, the coaching staff, the buses, the cheerleaders ... the fundraisers, the ticket sales, the tax money ... SCHOOLS spend more on football than any other program.

School football isn't just kids getting together to play. It's organized, well-funded, and high up on the ADULT hierarchy which puts it high up on the CHILD hierarchy because kids have an unerring way of sussing out what gets the the most rewards and attention.

And then there is the high school to college scholarship pipeline (most of those scholarshops have nothing to do with scholasticism and everything to do with building a winning team) and the college to pro pipeline, where most will wash out after a year, but an even greater precentage will have some brain damage from having played tackle football.

Is that something we want to fund and organize?

I "get" that some kids may find playing football fun. Some kids like to be really physical, and football is an interesting combination of doing your physical best in a team that has highly specialized positions, and with some risk and aggression involved (some kids love risk and/or aggression) ... but there are other team sports like baskeball and soccer (no heading) or individual sports like gymnastics (have you ever tried it? It's very demanding) that can fill the need for team or solo activity.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

1KIKI

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 2:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
You really don't understand sports if you think this is all, " just so some Joe Sixpack can get his steam up on a sunday with his beer and chips and buds." That's an incredibly simple sub 80 IQ view of the subject. The athletes live for this. It is their whole lives, and by now all of them know the risks in a much more profound way than any of us can.

Except that's not what I posted CC. You even quoted the whole quote and then misrepresented completely what I posted. Here's the relevant part again: "But it seems crazy to me that people are being permanently brain damaged just so some Joe Sixpack ..."

FROM THE SPECTATOR POV all it is is cheap entertainment (unless you have a gambling addiction, in which case it's probably really expensive entertainment), even if participants are literally killing themselves in front of the audience.

I never said that players didn't want to be there, or that the viewers didn't want to watch, or that the sport should be banned - I just observed that the entire situation is a less meaningful equivalent of any ancient Roman arena, because it's minus the moral interest in humans meeting their fate. I pointed out that people are literally killing themselves as cheap entertainment. But adults can choose whatever they want.

1KIKI

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 2:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Tackle football IN SCHOOL would not exist without A LOT of school and parental involvement. The uniforms, the stadia, the coaching staff, the buses, the cheerleaders ... the fundraisers, the ticket sales, the tax money ... SCHOOLS spend more on football than any other program.

School football isn't just kids getting together to play. It's organized, well-funded, and high up on the ADULT hierarchy which puts it high up on the CHILD hierarchy because kids have an unerring way of sussing out what gets the the most rewards and attention.

And then there is the high school to college scholarship pipeline (most of those scholarshops have nothing to do with scholasticism and everything to do with building a winning team) and the college to pro pipeline, where most will wash out after a year, but an even greater precentage will have some brain damage from having played tackle football.

Is that something we want to fund and organize?

I "get" that some kids may find playing football fun. Some kids like to be really physical, and football is an interesting combination of doing your physical best in a team that has highly specialized positions, and with some risk and aggression involved (some kids love risk and/or aggression) ... but there are other team sports like basketball and soccer (no heading) or individual sports like gymnastics (have you ever tried it? It's very demanding) that can fill the need for team or solo activity.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

Thanks for bringing the problem of HS football together in one cogent post.

I think of "Friday Night Lights" as a kind of example as to how invested the ADULT community is in keeping something going for their kids, to fulfill their own ADULT interests.

I wonder if HS (JHS, elementary) football could be modified as a 100% tackle-free sport, or do adults really want to see the "hard hits" on their children.

1KIKI

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 3:32 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yanno what though. Good luck to you in tearing the system down.

Not what I'm talking about Jack. I'm saying specifically we shouldn't be paying SCHOOLS to give our kids BRAIN DAMAGE. (15)

I even specifically exempted anyone over 18.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I hope you succeed. Because I don't give a shit about these sports at all.

Maybe then, we'll find out about that "science" you claim I'm making up that you didn't bother looking into. Yanno, when millions of people don't get that daily or weekly hit from their football games and various other sports, maybe we'll just see more aggressive behavior in the streets to burn off all that extra energy instead.

There are FAR more assaults, rapes, shootings, vandalism etc after a 'home' game than anytime else. That's just police statistics.

https://thecrimereport.org/2014/11/27/2014-11-crime-home-football-game
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Why city crime spikes during home football games

https://thecrimereport.org/2014/11/27/2014-11-crime-home-football-game
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Higher Property Crime Rates Correlated With Pro Football Game Timing
The study found that days on which cities hosted home games for their respective professional football teams coincided with a nearly 3 percent increase in total crime, including a more than 4 percent increase in larceny and almost 7 percent increase in car thefts. “NFL home games are correlated with a higher incidence of crime compared to non-game days or days when the team is playing an away game in another city,” the study said.

https://aquila.usm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1010&context=js
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GAME DAY ALTERS CRIME PATTERN
Results confirmed sports events at each venue affected the frequency, type, and time of crime in the vicinity of both districts; crime frequency was greater on game days. Moreover, the greater effect of game days was substantially increased frequency of violent crimes, resisting arrest, and property-related crime reports.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Until then, keep on living with the blinders on, and worrying about the stupid kids.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Yeah, let's keep paying the SCHOOLS give kids BRAIN DAMAGE. (16) Is that your point Jack?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 4:15 AM

My POINT is, there's more money there than anywhere else in the schools.

So... just like our never-ending involvement and wars in the Middle East, it ain't going anywhere. So you better learn to enjoy it or figure out how to ignore it, Ms. Nanny State.

Have fun arguing about it. I've already given this topic, which holds very little personal interest to me, far too much of my time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 4:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My POINT is, there's more money there than anywhere else in the schools.

So... just like our never-ending involvement and wars in the Middle East, it ain't going anywhere. So you better learn to enjoy it or figure out how to ignore it, Ms. Nanny State.

Have fun arguing about it. I've already given this topic, which holds very little personal interest to me, far too much of my time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

DOOD - for the fourth (fifth? sixth? seventh? more?*) time - I'm not arguing about anything people do over the age of 18, or anything children under 18 choose to do on their own time.

I'm focused on one very specific thing: kids doing school-funded provably brain-damaging things.

Get over yourself.

*17th

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:42 AM

For those pretending that High School sports Like football where players are taught and coached to cripple their individual opponent players, and target/spear with the helmet, is the same as backyard smear, catch, flag football, no-touch football, etc.
You have a warped view. Meth sports are also not the same.

Also, are you all aware that many NFL players do not allow their sons to play football?

There was also a top player from UW-Madison who was drafted into the NFL, and then quit because of potential head injury - either only played or none.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:17 AM

And my POINT regarding that is you're going to have a bunch of adults who play like kindergarteners if they don't play until they're old enough to be pros.

Nobody is going to want to see that.

All the Nanny-State-Ism in the world hasn't kept kids from smoking. There's no way in hell that it's going to end Football either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:37 AM

Sorry if I'm being a dick again here. Rough day....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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