Some Say Boxing Is A Sport

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1KIKI

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:39 AM

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And my POINT regarding that is you're going to have a bunch of adults who play like kindergarteners if they don't play until they're old enough to be pros.

Nobody is going to want to see that.

Maybe football will develop a bunch of 'farm teams' the same way hockey and baseball have.

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All the Nanny-State-Ism in the world hasn't kept kids from smoking.

Jack, Jack, Jack ... when are you going to stop with your 'feelz' arguments and start looking things up for yourself? Forbidding underage sale of tobacco to minors has definitely REDUCED underage smoking - and that's a good thing - right? https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/assets/factsheets/0049.pdf

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There's no way in hell that it's going to end Football either. Do Right, Be Right. :)

Jack, Jack, Jack ... and when are you going to stop with your 'strawman' arguments too? Because NO ONE said anything about 'ending' football either.

Dood, c'mon man! What's wrong witcha'? Get a grip.

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Sorry if I'm being a dick again here. Rough day....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

OK then. I figured you're better than that.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:08 AM

Just as many kids are vaping today as smoking yesterday.

The "deaths" are bullshit too. Don't buy shady cartridges from China that are stuffed with oil your lungs can't process and you won't die (immediately) from vaping.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 11:10 AM

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Just as many kids are vaping today as smoking yesterday.

As best as I can find, vaping products were being sold in the US in 2009. Vaping was either not regulated or poorly regulated on a state-wide basis until 8 August 2016, when the FDA extended its regulatory power to include e-cigarettes, but "A review of regulations in 40 U.S. states found that how a law defines e-cigarettes is critical, with some definitions allowing e-cigarettes to avoid smoke-free laws, taxation, and restrictions on sales and marketing."

So, what could be considered a federal ban isn't one.

Ten years of unrestricted or poorly restricted vaping sales is a long time to develop a population of child-addicts.

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The "deaths" are bullshit too. Don't buy shady cartridges from China that are stuffed with oil your lungs can't process and you won't die (immediately) from vaping.

I agree that the figures are bullshit, but probably because it was happening all along but nobody noticed. A problem like that doesn't suddenly become a national crisis in 2 or 3 weeks. I can't imagine how one could POSSIBLY contaminate an entire nationwide stock of vaping products that quickly.

Jack, please look up a few facts before you knee-jerk react on the board, ok?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:03 PM

I know what I'm talking about. Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I'm wrong.

How about you do a little research before you go walking around like you know everything, huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:16 PM

Did I agree with you that the whole media circus about vaping deaths was overblown?

Why, yes I did!

What's the matter with you, boy? You can't take 'yes' for an answer and have to pick a non-existent fight?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:54 PM

Okay. But you are arguing that lax state laws lead to a lot of children getting addicted to vaping.

I'd like you to explain how that is possible? Are you alleging that smoke shops and gas stations were selling them directly to minors?

I can't imagine a single scenario where this would occur, since every person selling them was federally regulated to card minors when selling any smoking products and risked their jobs as well as heavy personal fines and fines to the businesses they work for when caught selling to a minor, which used to happen all the time but doesn't anymore.

My point here is the kids are going to do whatever the hell that they want to do, whether you like it or not. In this case, not only have they been led to believe that vaping is a healthier alternative to smoking, but more importantly it's cheaper to vape than it is to smoke cigarettes because of the insane taxes. If cigarettes were still cheaper, they'd likely still be smoking them over vaping. Raising the price of vaping would probably just lead kids back to smoking cigarettes.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Okay. But you are arguing that lax state laws lead to a lot of children getting addicted to vaping.

I'd like you to explain how that is possible? Are you alleging that smoke shops and gas stations were selling them directly to minors?

YES.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I can't imagine a single scenario where this would occur, since every person selling them was federally regulated to card minors when selling any smoking products and risked their jobs as well as heavy personal fines and fines to the businesses they work for when caught selling to a minor, which used to happen all the time but doesn't anymore.

The Federal government didn't restrict vaping sales to minors till August 8, 2016. "On the deeming effective date of Aug. 8, 2016, it became immediately illegal to sell e-cigarettes and other ENDS to people younger than 18. Retailers also became legally responsible for requiring age verification by photo ID for individuals under 27 to purchase a tobacco product." Until then e-cigarettes were closer in sales category to nicotine gum.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My point here is the kids are going to do whatever the hell that they want to do, whether you like it or not. In this case, not only have they been led to believe that vaping is a healthier alternative to smoking, but more importantly it's cheaper to vape than it is to smoke cigarettes because of the insane taxes. If cigarettes were still cheaper, they'd likely still be smoking them over vaping. Raising the price of vaping would probably just lead kids back to smoking cigarettes.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And MY point - which you've repeatedly failed to address - is that just because kids choose to give themselves BRAIN DAMAGE on their own time, doesn't mean people should be paying school taxes so the schools can give them BRAIN DAMAGE as well.

And let me reiterate that 100% of kids who do these BRAIN DAMAGING ACTIVITIES for as little as 1 semester have measurable BRAIN DAMAGE.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, October 24, 2019 12:28 AM

Meh.... whatever.

I'm single and don't have any kids. I shouldn't even be paying school taxes.

You're never going to get your wish here. Suck it up.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Thursday, October 24, 2019 12:53 AM

And you're never going to prove me wrong.

Suck it up.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, October 24, 2019 12:55 AM

You haven't proven me wrong either.

So here we are.

Whatever.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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