Some Say Boxing Is A Sport

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, October 19, 2019 2:57 AM

Heard this news the other day.

Here is a version of the story sympathetic to the sport that kills people.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/patrick-day-boxed-for-the-love-of-the-spor
t-and-unfortunately-paid-the-ultimate-price-012643684.html

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:47 AM

Most say that Boxing is a sport.

I'm surprised that you don't.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, October 20, 2019 7:24 AM

It's a sport with risks, those risks are small but even with the sport getting more controlled and safer those risks they are still there. Always someone will die after a while, they try be safe but eventually someone dies, what makes it worse is the punching and more punching which to a untrained eye it almost looks like a massacre murder against a lesser fighter. The sport is just to people in a physical competition, they want to beat the other guy but nobody really wants to injure or destory the other person, its a sport not a war.

Sometimes I know where articles like this go without even clicking on it, ocassionally I get surprised when the book is a little different to the cover but sometimes I feel with the political spin everything is becoming predictable, maybe i get surprised some times

Yes its a sport, without the corruption it could be an even better sport. It's been a sport for thousands of years back to the days of Rome, Egypt and Greece just as China and Japan have their combat sports and just as Wrestling or Judo are olympic combat sports
Thailand kick boxing or Muay Thai is a normal part of Thai life, Sumo is part of Japan heritage.
If you are afraid of combat would you justify a ban of Kendo Japanese fencing, Modern Olympic fencing and Paintball paint guns

Once in a while you will hear a political activist, maybe they say its weakling complain with their own sorrow and psycological baggage.
Should I bother to read a boring article wrote by a weak person, with their mental burdens afraid of NFL afraid of running afraid of any kind of physical competition, a professional activist wanting to ban all?
but then again maybe its true, boxing is a violent sport?
btw Race Car Driving, people taking big hits from diving in water that break thier bodies, falling down a mountian while skiing, sudden heart failure in Soccer, Horse Racing, Gymnastics all kill far more people

I guess some people flinch or get scared with the combat nature of boxing, they see Striking and they are reminded of agression, maybe crime or bullying or something. I met many boxers and some were great people, Buddhist and Christian preacher and universal zen type attitudes, they could knock a person out but they were peaceful when they wanted to be a very respectful person.

Boxing has become a lot more safe but I guess it can become safer
it is dangerous to set up rookie newbie guys against a highly trained and skilled guy who has been knocking others down
another flaw can be the mothods they use to cut the weight category, for example the diet or avoiding fuilds before a fight weigh in this was done in the past and it can do as much or more damage as the punches taken in the fight.

anyways I did click on the article and read it
and it did surprise me, it was measured, it dealt with sorrow and tragedy but in the right way and respectful, i guess that's something missing in todays political world

1KIKI

Sunday, October 20, 2019 7:51 AM

You know, in Rome gladiator fights were also a sport. Unarmed bull fighting and 'to-the-death' wrestling were sports in Greece. I don't know what 'to-the-death' sports were fought in Egypt, China, or Japan, but I'd wager there were a few.

As I've read, back in the day, people had a different ethic, which was very much like certain American Indian tribes. That ethic didn't emphasize the tragedy of a pointless death in a mere game, it focused on whether that person met their death/fate with courage. That's what people went to see. The human spirit contending with its fate.

So there are a lot of things people used to do that we don't do today. We no longer think fighting 'to-the-death' is worth while.

But, honestly, there's just too much widespread brain damage from boxing, football, and heading balls in soccer - and I'm sure other sports - to justify that commercial, meaningless, entertainment as a worthwhile thing to do.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, October 20, 2019 2:47 PM

That's not up to you, or anybody who's not a boxer or football player to decide.

They might not have known the risks going into it back in the day, but they are very well aware of them going into it today. Who are you or anybody else to decide that for them?

I'm not trying to be confrontational here. Just stating things the way I see it.

It's not as if these people were going to be curing cancer with those brains. The fact that we have a story of a pretty intelligent guy who had a college education choose boxing over using his brain and ended up dying because of it doesn't change that fact. He did what he wanted to do.

It's a free country.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Sunday, October 20, 2019 3:45 PM

"Who are you or anybody else to decide that for them?"

I think any sport that routinely results in brain damage should be banned in elementary, middle, and high schools. After that, whatever people chose to do is fine with me.

But it seems crazy to me that people are being permanently brain damaged just so some Joe Sixpack can get his steam up on a sunday with his beer and chips and buds, and turn off the tv and forget about it till the next game. Sheesh. Talk about life being cheap. We might as well have a sport where people play Russian Roulette.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, October 20, 2019 4:53 PM

I suppose in its purest form, yes it is a sport.

But any sport which relies so heavily on judging is open for corruption. Just as we saw with the Olympic figure skating scandals.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, October 20, 2019 7:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"Who are you or anybody else to decide that for them?"

I think any sport that routinely results in brain damage should be banned in elementary, middle, and high schools. After that, whatever people chose to do is fine with me.

But it seems crazy to me that people are being permanently brain damaged just so some Joe Sixpack can get his steam up on a sunday with his beer and chips and buds, and turn off the tv and forget about it till the next game. Sheesh. Talk about life being cheap. We might as well have a sport where people play Russian Roulette.

I can see that argument, but the truth is that we have those sports and kids still do their own back yard wrestling. We banned cigarettes for minors and weed was illegal everywhere, yet kids have always smoked both and they're doing meth all over the country.

Kids are going to find plenty of ways to handicap or kill themselves. Intentional or not. With the potential of actually making a life or getting a free ride to college or not. Whether we like it or not.

And besides...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, October 20, 2019 7:28 PM

That's also not to mention the fact that if you ban all football until kids are 18, you've essentially killed what is arguably the most popular sport in the country. Once the veterans all retire, nobody will be any good at it anymore and nobody is going to watch it anymore. I'm not sure how you're going to sell that to the billionaires who would stand to lose their billions because some kids get injured or killed in freak occurances along the way.

Boxing isn't even that popular these days anyhow. That's not to say that people have abandoned a brutal pseudo-sport from the old days, however. The kids just consider it to be their grand-dad's MMA, which is arguably much more brutal than boxing.

I should state as a disclaimer that I don't watch or enjoy any of these sports, including the MMA. The only sports I ever regularly watched when I was a kid was baseball and basketball.

But I will also say that my take on the whole "juicing" scandal in baseball is much different than a lot of other people. Considering the insane amounts of money that professional athletes make, I want to see mutants on the field. 100 homeruns per season should be an average for the super stars.

League minimum for the very worst baseball player in the US: $550,000

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2019/03/29/mlb-salaries-leag
ue-minimum-baseball/3306763002/

Yearly salary for the President of the United States: $400,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States

No wonder all of our politicians are corrupt as shit. When every guy on this list makes more money above the commander in chief every year than it would take me 5 to 7 years to make at the jobs I'm currently qualified for.

https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/the_10_worst_mlb_players_so_fa
r_in_2019/s1_12740_29004800

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Sunday, October 20, 2019 8:14 PM

Oh the poor billionaires, losing money. My heart bleeds for them.

On the inside of the brain are long nerves connecting one region of the brain to another. These nerves are inches long but only microscopically wide - as wide as a single cell. They're found in 'bundles' called tracts. Only recently has a new technique called 'diffusion tensor imagining' allowed these deep-brain tracts to be seen.

When the head undergoes rapid acceleration(deceleration) (both are properly called acceleration), parts of the brain move in different directions causing these long fibers to snap. After all, it's not like the brain has any connective tissue holding things together. The tracts normally found in brains become broken, and the various parts of the brain that should be talking to one another become disconnected.

Scientists have found defective brain anatomy in young people (1) who play football, head soccer balls, BOX, etc.

Sadly, the FACT is that every single young person (2) who plays these brain-damaging sports ends up with detectable brain damage, linked with poor real-life functioning and later traumatic encephalopathy.

This is something we shouldn't be intentionally doing to our kids through school auspices (3).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5728158/

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/neu.2019.6398?journalCode=n
eu

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/10/football-kids-heads
/504863/

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/entertainment/sfp-u-s-soccer-heading-the-
ball-limited-in-youth-soccer-20151119-story.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/soccer-study-ties-heading-to-brain-damage/

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/871231

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fneur.2019.00538/full

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2016/11/28/brain-abnormalit
ies-linked-to-head-impacts-after-just-one-season-of-high-school-football/#51ce674f2a21

https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/should-potential-risk-chr
onic-traumatic-encephalopathy-be-discussed-young-athletes/2017-07

https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/radiol.2016160564

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/qa-soccer-players-wear-helmets-top
-neurosurgeon-weighs-concussion-risks

http://www.jlgh.org/Past-Issues/Volume-8---Issue-3/Concussion-in-Ameri
can-Football-and-Sports.aspx

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4651044/

It would be interesting to see if modifying sports - not allowing tacking, ball-heading, etc would reduce brain injuries. It seems like it should. But some sports - like boxing - don't seem to have alternatives.

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