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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, October 4, 2019 5:47 AM

I just did my new daily ritual of Googling "President of the United States" just to see if anything has changed.

Nothing yet. It still says Donald Trump.

Maybe tomorrow.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Friday, October 4, 2019 6:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

I guess you can take that to the bank with you and masturbate over how intellectually superior you are to everybody else when impeachment doesn't happen and Trump is your president until 2025.

Have a nice day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The one weird thing between Trump voters and Trump is his income tax returns. There is no GOOD reason for him to keep them secret, especially after he promised many times he would publicize the returns. The BAD reason is he cheated on his taxes. Now that he is President, he is still keeping his returns secret. That is prima facie evidence he is cheating while in the White House. You should really, really look at all the other Presidents, Vice-Presidents, and candidates making their returns public. Every last one of them dumped their returns for public review. But Not Trump. Trump is a crook.
www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns
www.efile.com/historic-1040-income-tax-returns-of-us-presidents-and-ca
ndidates/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Friday, October 4, 2019 7:02 AM

Perilous times for Trump: By 45%-38%, Americans support impeaching him over Ukraine allegations, poll finds

Americans by a 45%-38% plurality now support a vote by the House of Representatives to impeach President Donald Trump, a USA TODAY/Ipsos Poll finds, as allegations continue to swirl around an embattled White House.

By a similar margin, 44%-35%, those surveyed say the Senate, which would then be charged with holding a trial of the president, should convict Trump and remove him from office.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/perilous-times-for-trump-by-45
percent-38percent-americans-support-impeaching-him-over-ukraine-allegations-poll-finds/ar-AAId5Cr?ocid=spartandhp

tick tock

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SECOND

Friday, October 4, 2019 8:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Perilous times for Trump: By 45%-38%, Americans support impeaching him over Ukraine allegations, poll finds

For the 38% who don't think Trump should be impeached: The Federal Election Commission chair tweets reminder that accepting foreign help in an election is illegal after Trump urges China to investigate Joe Biden

www.cnbc.com/2019/10/03/fec-chair-subtweets-trump-after-plea-for-china
-to-investigate-bidens.html

Today's tweet
https://twitter.com/EllenLWeintraub/status/1179783410820292608

Chair Ellen L. Weintraub
Federal Election Commission
Washington, DC. 20463

Statement Regarding Illegal Contributions From Foreign Governments
June 13, 2019
Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.1 This is not a novel concept. Electoral intervention from foreign governments has been considered unacceptable since the beginnings of our nation. Our Founding Fathers sounded the alarm about “foreign Interference, Intrigue, and Influence.” They knew that when foreign governments seek to influence American politics, it is always to advance their own interests, not America’s. Anyone who solicits or accepts foreign assistance risks being on the wrong end of a federal investigation. Any political campaign that receives an offer of a prohibited donation from a foreign source should report that offer to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Footnote 1: 52 U.S.C. § 30121(a)(2).

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Friday, October 4, 2019 8:36 AM

Just because a billion flies eat shit, doesn't make it caviar.

Here's another example of flies eating shit:

I bet you supported the war, too.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, October 4, 2019 9:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

I guess you can take that to the bank with you and masturbate over how intellectually superior you are to everybody else when impeachment doesn't happen and Trump is your president until 2025.

Have a nice day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
The one weird thing between Trump voters and Trump is his income tax returns. There is no GOOD reason for him to keep them secret, especially after he promised many times he would publicize the returns. The BAD reason is he cheated on his taxes. Now that he is President, he is still keeping his returns secret. That is prima facie evidence he is cheating while in the White House. You should really, really look at all the other Presidents, Vice-Presidents, and candidates making their returns public. Every last one of them dumped their returns for public review. But Not Trump. Trump is a crook.
www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns
www.efile.com/historic-1040-income-tax-returns-of-us-presidents-and-ca
ndidates/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I've never said otherwise.

How can I put this clearly, Second...

I don't give a shit about Trump's tax returns.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Friday, October 4, 2019 11:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

How can I put this clearly, Second...

I don't give a shit about Trump's tax returns.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And Trump doesn't give a shit about you, but he loves people like me . . . rich people. I cannot love Trump back because he cheats on his taxes. Such a crook he is.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Friday, October 4, 2019 11:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Just because a billion flies eat shit, doesn't make it caviar.

Here's another example of flies eating shit:

I bet you supported the war, too.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

I never supported the Iraq War because I have been to war, unlike Trump, who did support the War, at first. Opinions about Iraq changed the longer the war continued, but mine never did because I knew what was going to happen as the years went by. I had read "The Fifty-First State?"
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/11/the-fifty-first-state/302
612/
Going to war with Iraq would mean shouldering all the responsibilities of an occupying power the moment victory was achieved. These would include running the economy, keeping domestic peace, and protecting Iraq's borders—and doing it all for years, or perhaps decades. Are we ready for this long-term relationship?

If I looked around, I could find dozens of articles that say Trump is mentally unfit to be President, but I knew that decades ago because I know how to run a business and Trump has been infamous for decades for being a rotten businessman. He has always been crazy, lazy, and disorganized and he is getting worse.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, October 4, 2019 4:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

How can I put this clearly, Second...

I don't give a shit about Trump's tax returns.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
And Trump doesn't give a shit about you, but he loves people like me . . . rich people. I cannot love Trump back because he cheats on his taxes. Such a crook he is.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I don't care if Trump doesn't give a shit about me. I'm not the one that's obsessed with him.

BTW, it's Friday today. Why is a rich cattle ranch owner still making posts about Trump in the middle of the night? Don't you have to actually do any work for your money?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Friday, October 4, 2019 6:16 PM

Trump’s Allies Are Running Out of Excuses

It’s dawning on Republicans that the normal defenses of presidential misconduct won’t work this time, since its the Federal Election Commission, not the GOP controlled Senate, that decides if Trump's mouth broke election laws.

www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-10-04/donald-trump-s-allies-ar
e-running-out-of-defenses-on-ukraine

Chair Ellen L. Weintraub
Federal Election Commission
Washington, DC. 20463

Statement Regarding Illegal Contributions From Foreign Governments
June 13, 2019
Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.1 This is not a novel concept. Electoral intervention from foreign governments has been considered unacceptable since the beginnings of our nation. Our Founding Fathers sounded the alarm about “foreign Interference, Intrigue, and Influence.” They knew that when foreign governments seek to influence American politics, it is always to advance their own interests, not America’s. Anyone who solicits or accepts foreign assistance risks being on the wrong end of a federal investigation. Any political campaign that receives an offer of a prohibited donation from a foreign source should report that offer to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Footnote 1: 52 U.S.C. § 30121(a)(2).
www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/Chair_Weintraub_on_Illegal
_Foreign_Contributions.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, October 4, 2019 9:08 PM

Then do something about it. Period.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Saturday, October 5, 2019 3:51 AM

Treasury Inspector General to Review Handling of Trump’s Tax Returns

The inquiry comes amid new concerns about political interference in the handling of Mr. Trump’s tax returns, which — like those of all presidents — are subjected to a mandatory audit. An Internal Revenue Service whistle-blower filed a complaint over the summer claiming that senior Treasury officials tried to exert improper influence over the audit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/treasury-inspector-general-to-
review-handling-of-trumps-tax-returns/ar-AAIiDAo?ocid=spartandhp

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, October 5, 2019 6:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Treasury Inspector General to Review Handling of Trump’s Tax Returns

The inquiry comes amid new concerns about political interference in the handling of Mr. Trump’s tax returns, which — like those of all presidents — are subjected to a mandatory audit. An Internal Revenue Service whistle-blower filed a complaint over the summer claiming that senior Treasury officials tried to exert improper influence over the audit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/treasury-inspector-general-to-
review-handling-of-trumps-tax-returns/ar-AAIiDAo?ocid=spartandhp

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Anon

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Saturday, October 5, 2019 6:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
blah blah blah ...

fify

And maybe let THUGGER respond for himself, unless you think he's too brain-dead, of course.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, October 5, 2019 6:45 AM

BTW... I just Googled "President of the United States" again. Still says Donald Trump.

Not likely to change over the weekend, I suppose.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Saturday, October 5, 2019 6:48 PM

tick tock tick tock

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, October 5, 2019 6:50 PM

How many times does the clock tick tock from now until October 15th?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Saturday, October 5, 2019 7:21 PM

For several years there’s been a kind of competition on the right to come up with a coherent intellectual or ideological framework to support Trump’s presidency. Every single one that comes out of the clouds of theory to get close to the reality on the ground has crashed. He’s a nationalist who puts America first but says we’ll await Saudi Arabia’s say-so on a military strike against Iran. He says he wants free trade but also thinks tariffs are good.

Just this week, the same people who insisted that Trump would never collude with a foreign nation for his political interest are now defending collusion with a foreign nation for his political interest. The people who turn crimson with rage when you point out Trump’s decades of corrupt business practices now insist his only interest in the Bidens is his concern about corruption. They say it’s outrageous that Biden’s son sat on the board of a Ukrainian company when Biden was vice president, but they also say it’s fine to have a daughter and son-in-law duo running vast swaths of foreign and domestic policy while also making a fortune from their business interests around the world. Enemies are sinful or decadent when they lie or cheat on their wives, but who are you to judge Comrade Trump?

There’s no halfway defensible ideological, intellectual or moral standard that Trump doesn’t violate, often routinely. A cult of personality that replies “Trump’s right” or “his enemies are worse” before the question is even asked is the only place to hide.

www.baltimoresun.com/sns-201910031637--tms--jgoldbrgctnjg-a20191004-20
191004-column.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, October 5, 2019 7:24 PM

lol

Nah. Nobody here is getting crimson with rage.

Maybe a little short on breath from time to time from laughing so hard.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Sunday, October 6, 2019 7:05 PM

Rick Perry denies discussing Bidens with Trump or Ukraine officials

Perry’s name has come up in connection with the Trump-Ukraine phone call saga, after news outlet Axios reported that Trump told House Republicans he made the July phone call to the Ukrainian president based on Perry’s recommendation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rick-perry-denies-discussing-b
idens-with-trump-or-ukraine-officials-reports/ar-AAIlPlK?ocid=spartandhp

tick tock

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JO753

Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:04 PM

Romney haz alwayz been agenst Trump. If Rick turnz on Trump, I think the gig iz up. They will start falling like dominoz and not even Moscow Mitch will be able to save him.

Here'z an idea: The propaganda network will start sirculating a story that Trump wuz working for the Demz all along to bring down the GoPs.

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

THG

Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Romney haz alwayz been agenst Trump. If Rick turnz on Trump, I think the gig iz up. They will start falling like dominoz and not even Moscow Mitch will be able to save him.

Here'z an idea: The propaganda network will start sirculating a story that Trump wuz working for the Demz all along to bring down the GoPs.

They'll flip on Trump soon I hope. Trump is outing others like Perry, Pence, Barr in order to keep them from bailing. That said, don't you find it telling that all the trolls here who post constantly about our corrupt government, are now upset about whistleblowers exposing corruption in our government? Think about JO.

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THG

Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:19 PM

These Republicans May Not Endorse an Impeachment Inquiry. But They Aren’t Saying No.

As evidence mounts that Mr. Trump engaged in an intensive effort to pressure the leader of Ukraine to investigate a political rival, Mr. Amodei is one of a growing number of Republicans who, while not explicitly endorsing the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry, are at least indicating an openness to it. None have said Mr. Trump should be impeached. But neither are they defending him.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/these-republicans-may-not-endo
rse-an-impeachment-inquiry-but-they-arent-saying-no/ar-AAIjIjc?ocid=spartanntp

tick tock

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Romney haz alwayz been agenst Trump. If Rick turnz on Trump, I think the gig iz up. They will start falling like dominoz and not even Moscow Mitch will be able to save him.

Here'z an idea: The propaganda network will start sirculating a story that Trump wuz working for the Demz all along to bring down the GoPs.

I believe 6 has said something similar. "Mark my words, the MSM will start to reluctantly embrace Trump."

I think he's toast as well. Republicans will start cracking. A couple here and there, none of any real significance, and then gradually bigger and more respected members will speak up when they see he's a black hole and they need to get some distance.

THG

Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Romney haz alwayz been agenst Trump. If Rick turnz on Trump, I think the gig iz up. They will start falling like dominoz and not even Moscow Mitch will be able to save him.

Here'z an idea: The propaganda network will start sirculating a story that Trump wuz working for the Demz all along to bring down the GoPs.

I believe 6 has said something similar. "Mark my words, the MSM will start to reluctantly embrace Trump."

I think he's toast as well. Republicans will start cracking. A couple here and there, none of any real significance, and then gradually bigger and more respected members will speak up when they see he's a black hole and they need to get some distance.

‘Out on a limb’: Inside the Republican reckoning over Trump’s possible impeachment

A torrent of impeachment developments has triggered a reckoning in the Republican Party, paralyzing many of its officeholders as they weigh their political futures, legacies and, ultimately, their allegiance to a president who has held them captive.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/out-on-a-limb-inside-the-repub
lican-reckoning-over-trumps-possible-impeachment/ar-AAIm4V3?ocid=spartandhp

tick tock

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THG

Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:38 PM

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, October 7, 2019 12:55 AM

Only 2,034 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002780

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, October 7, 2019 6:40 AM

I wonder what else they'll come up with when the Ukraine thing disappears from the headlines.

By election time, most people won't even remember that the Russia thing was ever a thing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Monday, October 7, 2019 7:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

By election time, most people won't even remember that the Russia thing was ever a thing.
Do Right, Be Right. :)

I think you're far too optimistic about people's brainz. They've already forgotten the whole Russia thing existed, let alone that it imploded.

It was too painful to think about, so they just ... made it mentally disappear, as quickly as possible.

SECOND

Monday, October 7, 2019 7:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

By election time, most people won't even remember that the Russia thing was ever a thing.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I think you're far too optimistic about people's brainz. They've already forgotten the whole Russia thing existed, let alone that it imploded.

It was too painful to think about, so they just ... made it mentally disappear, as quickly as possible.

Will they remember Trump's extraordinary claim that any occupant of the White House enjoys absolute immunity from criminal process of any kind? If they don't understand Trump's claim, their minds must be very shallow. If they do understand, they won't forget.

A federal judge on Monday dismissed a lawsuit brought by President Donald Trump in his effort to block a subpoena issued by the Manhattan district attorney's office for eight years of Trump's tax returns, rejecting the President's "extraordinary" claim that any occupant of the White House enjoys "absolute immunity from criminal process of any kind."

Describing Trump's argument as a "categorical and limitless assertion of Presidential immunity," US District Court Judge Victor Marrero wrote in an opinion that it "would constitute an overreach of executive power."

www.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/trump-tax-returns-lawsuit/index.html

The 75 page ruling is here:
www.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/sdny-ruling-trump-tax-returns/index.ht
ml
"The Court is not persuaded that the burdens and interferences the President describes in this case would substantially impair the President's ability to perform his constitutional duties. See Clinton, 520 U.S. at 705"

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Monday, October 7, 2019 9:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

By election time, most people won't even remember that the Russia thing was ever a thing.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I think you're far too optimistic about people's brainz. They've already forgotten the whole Russia thing existed, let alone that it imploded.

It was too painful to think about, so they just ... made it mentally disappear, as quickly as possible.
Will they remember Trump's extraordinary claim that any occupant of the White House enjoys absolute immunity from criminal process of any kind? If they don't understand Trump's claim, their minds must be very shallow. If they do understand, they won't forget.

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THG

Tuesday, October 8, 2019 10:55 PM

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THG

Wednesday, October 9, 2019 12:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Romney haz alwayz been agenst Trump. If Rick turnz on Trump, I think the gig iz up. They will start falling like dominoz and not even Moscow Mitch will be able to save him.

Here'z an idea: The propaganda network will start sirculating a story that Trump wuz working for the Demz all along to bring down the GoPs.

I believe 6 has said something similar. "Mark my words, the MSM will start to reluctantly embrace Trump."

I think he's toast as well. Republicans will start cracking. A couple here and there, none of any real significance, and then gradually bigger and more respected members will speak up when they see he's a black hole and they need to get some distance.

Analysis: Trump loves to tout his base. But a new poll shows increasing GOP support for impeachment — and even removing him.

A new Washington Post-Schar School poll shows support for an impeachment inquiry rising to a new high after Democrats formally launched one. The 58 percent who support the inquiry is higher than in any other poll; the 38 percent who oppose it suggests only Trump’s most devoted base is now opposed.
But even that isn’t quite accurate — because it shows some of Trump’s base does support the inquiry and even his removal.

In fact, 28 percent of Republicans support the impeachment inquiry, and 18 percent say they support removing Trump from office, according to the poll. The rise in GOP support for the impeachment inquiry in the poll is commensurate with the rise in support among other groups, according to The Post’s Dan Balz and Scott Clement:

Since a July poll by The Post and ABC, there has been movement toward an impeachment inquiry among all three groups, with support for the inquiry rising by 25 points among Democrats, 21 points among Republicans and 20 points among independents.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-trump-loves-to-tout-h
is-base-but-a-new-poll-shows-increasing-gop-support-for-impeachment-—-and-even-removing-him/ar-AAIrZ9I?ocid=spartanntp

tick tock

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JO753

Wednesday, October 9, 2019 3:14 AM

You may be rite, 6string.

There are eerie senez in Blade in wich extreem violens happenz on a bizzy street, then secondz later the pedestrianz are bak to wokking wherever they are going az if nothing happened.

I am alredy feeling like the Demz are dropping the ball agen. The usual GoP congressmen and senatorz are doing the politics show serkit, furiously slapping together a cover story and their sheepl are gobbling up every bit az fast az they can.

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
You may be rite, 6string.

There are eerie senez in Blade in wich extreem violens happenz on a bizzy street, then secondz later the pedestrianz are bak to wokking wherever they are going az if nothing happened.

I am alredy feeling like the Demz are dropping the ball agen. The usual GoP congressmen and senatorz are doing the politics show serkit, furiously slapping together a cover story and their sheepl are gobbling up every bit az fast az they can.

I don't think they're dropping the ball. I think Nancy's playing a game with Trump.

Trump wants impeachment. He's all but begging for it. He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain by it.

I have zero faith that Nancy was ever going to go through with it. She's just letting it hang out there right now, conveniently right before they all went on a two week recess and nothing would be done, just to see what the polling numbers will come back at. And right now, a 58% approval for impeachment proceedings (which includes a LOT of people like me who want it done for a very different reason than you do) is not good enough.

Certainly not when his approval rating hasn't budged at all during the same time frame. And certainly not when Trump still holds too many of the keys to the White House.

There has never been any serious attempt at impeachment yet, JO. At the end of the day that's because after more than 3 years the worst thing the Democrats have on Trump is the Billy Bush tapes that came out before he was elected.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
You may be rite, 6string.

There are eerie senez in Blade in wich extreem violens happenz on a bizzy street, then secondz later the pedestrianz are bak to wokking wherever they are going az if nothing happened.

I am alredy feeling like the Demz are dropping the ball agen. The usual GoP congressmen and senatorz are doing the politics show serkit, furiously slapping together a cover story and their sheepl are gobbling up every bit az fast az they can.

I don't think they're dropping the ball. I think Nancy's playing a game with Trump.

Trump wants impeachment. He's all but begging for it. He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain by it.

I have zero faith that Nancy was ever going to go through with it. She's just letting it hang out there right now, conveniently right before they all went on a two week recess and nothing would be done, just to see what the polling numbers will come back at. And right now, a 58% approval for impeachment proceedings (which includes a LOT of people like me who want it done for a very different reason than you do) is not good enough.

Certainly not when his approval rating hasn't budged at all during the same time frame. And certainly not when Trump still holds too many of the keys to the White House.

There has never been any serious attempt at impeachment yet, JO. At the end of the day that's because after more than 3 years the worst thing the Democrats have on Trump is the Billy Bush tapes that came out before he was elected.

You really have no problem with him using so many gov resources and time trying to dig up dirt on his most likely 2020 opponent? You don't see the problems with him basically saying, "give me dirt on my opponent and I'll give you weapons?" I bet if Obama or Hillary had done this you'd be calling for a hanging.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
You may be rite, 6string.

There are eerie senez in Blade in wich extreem violens happenz on a bizzy street, then secondz later the pedestrianz are bak to wokking wherever they are going az if nothing happened.

I am alredy feeling like the Demz are dropping the ball agen. The usual GoP congressmen and senatorz are doing the politics show serkit, furiously slapping together a cover story and their sheepl are gobbling up every bit az fast az they can.

I don't think they're dropping the ball. I think Nancy's playing a game with Trump.

Trump wants impeachment. He's all but begging for it. He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain by it.

I have zero faith that Nancy was ever going to go through with it. She's just letting it hang out there right now, conveniently right before they all went on a two week recess and nothing would be done, just to see what the polling numbers will come back at. And right now, a 58% approval for impeachment proceedings (which includes a LOT of people like me who want it done for a very different reason than you do) is not good enough.

Certainly not when his approval rating hasn't budged at all during the same time frame. And certainly not when Trump still holds too many of the keys to the White House.

There has never been any serious attempt at impeachment yet, JO. At the end of the day that's because after more than 3 years the worst thing the Democrats have on Trump is the Billy Bush tapes that came out before he was elected.

You really have no problem with him using so many gov resources and time trying to dig up dirt on his most likely 2020 opponent? You don't see the problems with him basically saying, "give me dirt on my opponent and I'll give you weapons?" I bet if Obama or Hillary had done this you'd be calling for a hanging.

That's not how the conversation went, for starters.

He also did not bring it up. He was replying honestly to them broaching the subject.

Also, you have to stretch it really far to prove that there was a quid pro quo ultimatum based off of the transcripts. Therein lies the problem here. Never Trumpers automatically see it. Everyone else doesn't see it. At the very least, it would never hold up in a court of law, and there will be zero chance an impeachment could go through based off of this.

On the reverse end, Joe Biden not only did everything you're accusing Trump of doing right now, but he did it in the name of nepotism and there is video proof of him bragging about doing so.

The fact that you can't see how bad a position this puts somebody like you in when trying to argue this point is comical. Anyone you argue this point with has vantage over the hypocrisy hole you're trying to argue from.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:05 PM

Today in Conservative Media: The Democrats Are Committing “Regicide”. The King of America could not be reached for comment. If the House Democrats are trying to send the King to the electric chair, they’re being pretty quiet about it.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/regicide-joseph-digenova-l
aura-ingraham-angle-fox-news-suicide-bombers.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's not how the conversation went, for starters.
He also did not bring it up. He was replying honestly to them broaching the subject.

Right.

He was honestly telling him that if he wanted those Javelins he needed to do something for Trump though. Only a moron or a liar or a stubborn jackass would not see it.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Also, you have to stretch it really far to prove that there was a quid pro quo ultimatum based off of the transcripts. Therein lies the problem here. Never Trumpers automatically see it. Everyone else doesn't see it. At the very least, it would never hold up in a court of law, and there will be zero chance an impeachment could go through based off of this.

Obviously you haven't been keeping up on current events. There's more than just that conversation pointing directly to quid pro quo.

MORE IMPORTANTLY - who gives a sh*t about QPQ? Using the US government and asking other countries to dig up dirt on a rival is all that's needed, and that's right from Trump big fat mouth.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
On the reverse end, Joe Biden not only did everything you're accusing Trump of doing right now, but he did it in the name of nepotism...

Jarod and Ivanka isn't nepotism??

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
and there is video proof of him bragging about doing so.

Really? About asking Ukraine to investigate his upcoimg presidential rival? Love to see it.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The fact that you can't see how bad a position this puts somebody like you in when trying to argue this point is comical. Anyone you argue this point with has vantage over the hypocrisy hole you're trying to argue from.

I see why you run from these "discussions" or just make little insults and then bug out. You suck at them.

1KIKI

Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:11 AM

I see why they call him shifty Schiff ...

quotes from various sources

"Have you heard from the whistleblower? Do you want to hear from the whistleblower? What protections could you provide to the whistleblower?" Schiff was asked during a Sept. 17 interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower. We would like to," replied Schiff, adding "But I am sure the whistleblower has concerns that he has not been advised, as the law requires, by the inspector general or the director of national Intelligence just how he is supposed to communicate with Congress, and so the risk to the whistleblower is retaliation."

After it was revealed that the whistleblower approached Schiff's panel - which then directed him to a Democrat attorney, the Post gave Schiff four Pinocchios for his statement, which they called "Flat-out false."

"Schiff on 'Morning Joe' clearly made a statement that was false," said the fact-checker. "He now says he’s was answering the wrong question, but if that was the case, he should have quickly corrected the record. He compounded his falsehood by telling reporters a few days later that if not for the [inspector general's] office, the committee would not have known about the complaint. That again suggested there had been no prior communication."

"The explanation that Schiff was not sure it was the same whistleblower especially strains credulity," added WaPo. "Schiff earns Four Pinocchios."

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:21 AM

Hey. Look at that. Google still says that Trump is president.

Whooptie doo.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, October 10, 2019 8:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey. Look at that. Google still says that Trump is president.

Whooptie doo.

Not surprised you had to use Google to find that out. lol

THG

Friday, October 11, 2019 4:57 AM

Giuliani associates arrested while trying to board international flight with one-way tickets, prosecutors say

Two associates of Rudy Giuliani made their initial appearance before a federal judge on Thursday, less than 24 hours after they were arrested on campaign finance violations while trying to board an international flight with one-way tickets at Dulles International Airport outside of Washington D.C.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman appeared in federal court in Alexandria, Va. to face a four-count indictment alleging that they, along with two other co-defendants, conspired to violate a ban on foreign donations and contributions in connection with federal and state elections.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/giuliani-associates-arrested-w
hile-trying-to-board-international-flight-with-one-way-tickets-prosecutors-say/ar-AAIALKV?ocid=spartanntp

tick tock Rudy...

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, October 11, 2019 5:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey. Look at that. Google still says that Trump is president.

Whooptie doo.

Not surprised you had to use Google to find that out. lol

Google still says that he's President today.

Go figure.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Friday, October 11, 2019 6:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Google still says that he's President today.

Go figure.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump still managed to do the unthinkable: inspire bipartisan opposition to his leadership, yesterday.

Condemnation rained down from both sides of the aisle over Trump’s decision to pull remaining American troops out of northern Syria, opening the door for Turkey to launch a military strike on ethnic Kurds that have been American allies in fighting ISIS. With American forces gone, Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan stepped through that door Wednesday, launching a military offensive across its border. By way of explanation, Trump defended his reasoning for pulling the plug on American support for the Kurds, saying: “They didn’t help us with Normandy.”

Here’s a fuller version of Trump’s comments at the White House Wednesday:

"The Kurds are fighting for their land, just so you understand. They’re fighting for their land and as someone wrote in a very, very powerful article today: They didn’t help us in the Second World War, they didn’t help us with Normandy, as an example… but they’re there to help us with their land. And that’s a different thing. And in addition that, we’ve spent tremendous amounts of money on helping the Kurds, in terms of ammunition, in terms of weapons, in terms of money, in terms of pay. With all of that being said, we like the Kurds."

Trump’s comments are muddled to the point of incoherence.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/what-trump-means-kurds-did
nt-help-us-with-normandy-explained.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, October 11, 2019 7:41 AM

Makes sense to me.

Next.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Friday, October 11, 2019 11:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Makes sense to me.

Next.

Next is Trump's tax returns. A federal appeals court held TODAY that Trump’s claims that he is immune to congressional oversight have no basis in law.

If the Supreme Court does not interfere with this decision, that means the House Oversight Committee will soon gain access to Trump’s financial records — including his tax forms.

The case is Trump v. Mazars USA
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1trAO6IWcy-WZlVQJTzZFUz1551RIwe7w/view
www.documentcloud.org/documents/6467307-Trump-v-Mazars.html

The decision is 134 pages long, and took 3 months to write, but this is the only paragraph that counts: "Having considered the weighty interests at stake in this case, we conclude that the subpoena issued by the Committee to Mazars is valid and enforceable. We affirm the district court’s judgment in favor of the Oversight Committee and against the Trump Plaintiffs.

So ordered."

I would expect Trump owes taxes equal to half his net worth. Nixon had to pay half after Congress audited his tax returns for just the years he was President. Read Nixon's story:
www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df80075b9dd/f
8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, October 12, 2019 12:59 AM

You suspect a lot of things.

Other than the Billy Bush tapes, you've come up with nothing for three years.

But hey, maybe this is finally the I Told You So moment you've been praying for.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You suspect a lot of things.

Other than the Billy Bush tapes, you've come up with nothing for three years.

But hey, maybe this is finally the I Told You So moment you've been praying for.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You know for sure that Trump promised to make his tax returns available. You know for sure that Trump is fighting like crazy to keep those returns a secret, now that somebody will do a real audit. You know Trump cheated on taxes because his sister, who is was a Federal judge, cheated on her taxes in the same business deal run by Trump. Judge Trump had to resign over her tax cheating.
www.apnews.com/872fc6adeaca4bd8a2875b23c3f3782a

There is even an accounting school illustration of the many ways people cheat on their taxes. Trump is used as an example of a dozen different cheating schemes.
www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey. Look at that. Google still says that Trump is president.

Whooptie doo.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:42 AM

Only 2,029 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002780

THG

Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:22 AM

Trump Pressed for Ukraine Envoy's Removal, She Tells Lawmakers

Commenting for the first time on what she called a “concerted campaign” against her, Marie Yovanovitch, a career diplomat whom Mr. Trump removed from her post in May, said she didn’t know why she was targeted by Trump allies outside the administration, including his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. But she drew a link to the two Giuliani associates who were arrested this week on campaign-finance charges in the U.S., saying she suspected the men stood to benefit financially by sidetracking an ambassador who had spoken out against corruption in Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-pressed-for-ukraine-envo
ys-removal-she-tells-lawmakers/ar-AAIDFci?ocid=spartandhp

tick tock

T

THG

Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:25 AM

Trump's E.U. ambassador to testify in impeachment inquiry, defying State Dept.

"Notwithstanding the State Department's current direction to not testify, Ambassador Sondland will honor the Committees' subpoena, and he looks forward to testifying on Thursday," Sondland's attorneys, Robert Luskin and Kwame Manley, said in a statement.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-eu-ambassador-to-testif
y-in-impeachment-inquiry-defying-state-dept/ar-AAIDeBy?ocid=spartandhp

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THG

Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:24 PM

White House accidentally sends Ukraine talking points to Democrats again

The White House accidentally sent Democrats a list of talking points related to ex-Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch's Friday House deposition, two sources with knowledge of the email told The Hill, the second time in a month the administration has sent its Ukraine talking points to Democrats.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-accidentally-sends
-ukraine-talking-points-to-democrats-again/ar-AAIE5lp?ocid=spartanntp

tick tock

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
White House accidentally sends Ukraine talking points to Democrats again

The White House accidentally sent Democrats a list of talking points related to ex-Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch's Friday House deposition, two sources with knowledge of the email told The Hill, the second time in a month the administration has sent its Ukraine talking points to Democrats.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-accidentally-sends
-ukraine-talking-points-to-democrats-again/ar-AAIE5lp?ocid=spartanntp

tick tock

T

2 ANON sources here....

And really, that's what the email said?

Quote:
"We are not concerned with any information Yovanovitch might share, because the President did nothing wrong," the White House email meant for Republicans said. "But we are concerned that Schiff is putting her a precarious position by having her testify in secret without State Department lawyers be present."

Where's the copy editor?

There should be an "in" before "a precarious position".

Garbage tier.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:34 AM

Taking up your count ...

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,028 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002780

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

THG

Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:42 AM

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1KIKI

Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:22 AM

Taking up your count ...

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,028 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002780

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

SECOND

Monday, October 14, 2019 11:47 PM

Trump decided to pull American troops out of northern Syria, but did it in precisely the way that would cause the most chaos to both the United States and its allies. And that’s what he’s gotten.

And in yet other news, after blowing up negotiations with the Taliban in Afghanistan because he didn’t understand what was going on, Trump is now trying to start them up again. Good luck with that.

Oh, and Trump’s buddy who served as roving ambassador to Ukraine is apparently prepared to testify that the only reason he said there was "no quid pro quo" required for Ukraine to receive its military aid is because Trump told him to say that. He himself has no idea if it was true or not.

www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Trump-orders-withdrawal-of-U-S-f
orces-from-14518497.php

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:59 AM

Trump has delivered what Russia wants in Syria — at zero cost — and 'Putin likely can't believe his luck'

"Putin continues to get whatever he wants and generally doesn't even have to do much," a NATO official told Insider. "He got to sit back and watch the Turks and the Americans unravel five years of success, and not only did it not cost him anything, he didn't even have to try to make it happen. Small wonder he'd interfere on Trump's side in an election."

www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-free-hand-syria-putin-cant-believ
e-luck-2019-10

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 15, 2019 8:47 AM

Meh

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meh

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I'd go "Meh", too, if I did not understand that only one phone call to the President of Turkey from Trump could undo five years of work in Syria. And release 785 ISIS prisoners. And Trump did it all on Sunday night. And he didn't even have to try hard.

"Trump: Mexicans Are a Bigger Threat Than the ISIS Prisoners I Let Escape in Northern Syria." Meanwhile, the president has vowed to punish Turkey for the killings he sanctioned.

www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/donald-trump-turkey-syria-sanctions

Donald Trump has made a lot of exceedingly stupid decisions in the 78,000 dog years he’s been in office, but few compare, in impact and the speed with which they blew up in his face, than the one to withdraw troops from northern Syria, paving the way for Turkey to invade the region and kill our Kurdish allies, leading to one (completely predictable) consequence after the next.

Now that the situation has descended into unstoppable chaos, Trump is naturally acting as though no one could have predicted any of this, and threatening retribution that experts say will do little to stop the unmitigated disaster he set into motion.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump ... in the 78,000 dog years he’s been in office

snicker ... 78,000 dog years ...

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump ... in the 78,000 dog years he’s been in office
snicker ... 78,000 dog years ...

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

Does somebody want to tell him that dogs are supposed to live a lot longer than he thinks they do?

Do you reckon that Second abuses his dogs?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:57 PM

Three-quarters of college students back impeachment inquiry: poll

The Axios/College Reaction Poll found that 76 percent of college students say they support the inquiry, a more than 20 percent jump from 52 percent who said the same in late May.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/465807-three-quarter
s-of-college-students-back-impeachment-inquiry

tick tock

T

SECOND

Tuesday, October 15, 2019 8:25 PM

Trump’s explicitly declared position in the scandal consuming his presidency is that pressuring a foreign power to “investigate” a leading domestic political opponent absolutely falls within his rightfully exercised authority. Trump has said this, and so has his White House counsel, making this the White House’s official political, substantive and legal position.

But this defense is cracking up. That’s because we’re now learning, one after another, that all of the people around him knew that it was grievously wrong — that is, all except for those who were carrying out Trump’s corrupt scheme.

As this becomes more public, Trump’s position will grow increasingly unsustainable — not just as a rhetorical matter but also in terms of whether he’ll be able to keep the support of Senate Republicans, his final line of defense.

The latest domino to fall is John Bolton. In July, Bolton grew so alarmed by efforts to pressure Ukraine to launch “investigations” into Joe Biden and his son that he instructed an aide to alert White House lawyers.

That aide is Fiona Hill, a former senior White House adviser on Russia and Europe. Hill testified this week about this exchange to House investigators as part of their impeachment inquiry. Hill told them that Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, Trump lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney had run what The Post calls a “shadow” campaign to pressure Ukraine to do Trump’s political bidding.

“I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up,” Bolton reportedly told Hill to tell White House lawyers.

More at www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/15/john-boltons-eruption-shows
-that-trumps-defenses-are-collapsing/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Wednesday, October 16, 2019 12:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump’s explicitly declared position in the scandal consuming his presidency is that pressuring a foreign power to “investigate” a leading domestic political opponent absolutely falls within his rightfully exercised authority. Trump has said this, and so has his White House counsel, making this the White House’s official political, substantive and legal position.

But this defense is cracking up. That’s because we’re now learning, one after another, that all of the people around him knew that it was grievously wrong — that is, all except for those who were carrying out Trump’s corrupt scheme.

As this becomes more public, Trump’s position will grow increasingly unsustainable — not just as a rhetorical matter but also in terms of whether he’ll be able to keep the support of Senate Republicans, his final line of defense.

The latest domino to fall is John Bolton. In July, Bolton grew so alarmed by efforts to pressure Ukraine to launch “investigations” into Joe Biden and his son that he instructed an aide to alert White House lawyers.

That aide is Fiona Hill, a former senior White House adviser on Russia and Europe. Hill testified this week about this exchange to House investigators as part of their impeachment inquiry. Hill told them that Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, Trump lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney had run what The Post calls a “shadow” campaign to pressure Ukraine to do Trump’s political bidding.

“I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up,” Bolton reportedly told Hill to tell White House lawyers.

More at www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/15/john-boltons-eruption-shows
-that-trumps-defenses-are-collapsing/

tick tock
T

THG

Wednesday, October 16, 2019 12:46 AM

Photos show Rudy Giuliani's fixers with Florida governor

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/photos-show-rudy-giulianis-fix
ers-with-florida-governor/ar-AAIOIhD?ocid=spartanntp

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:59 AM

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, October 16, 2019 5:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump ... in the 78,000 dog years he’s been in office
snicker ... 78,000 dog years ...

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
Does somebody want to tell him that dogs are supposed to live a lot longer than he thinks they do?

Do you reckon that Second abuses his dogs?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Of course - why would he treat his dogs any better than humans?

Rumor has it that Trump is still President.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, October 16, 2019 5:21 AM

Only 2,025 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002780

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 16, 2019 8:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump ... in the 78,000 dog years he’s been in office
snicker ... 78,000 dog years ...

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
Does somebody want to tell him that dogs are supposed to live a lot longer than he thinks they do?

Do you reckon that Second abuses his dogs?

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Of course - why would he treat his dogs any better than humans?

Rumor has it that Trump is still President.

I did hear that. But Google does lie a lot. Maybe it's part of their agenda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Thursday, October 17, 2019 3:35 AM

Another man is arrested in probe of Giuliani associates

NEW YORK (AP) — A Florida man wanted in a campaign finance case involving associates of Rudy Giuliani is in federal custody after flying Wednesday to Kennedy Airport in New York City to turn himself in, federal authorities said.
David Correia was named in an indictment with two Giuliani associates and another man who were all arrested last week on charges they made illegal contributions to politicians and a political action committee supporting President Donald Trump. Giuliani, a former New York City mayor, is Trump's personal lawyer.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/another-man-is-arrested-in-pro
be-of-giuliani-associates/ar-AAISjnz?ocid=spartanntp

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SECOND

Thursday, October 17, 2019 6:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,025 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002780

There’s a massive amount of evidence now that Trump has spent nearly a year obsessing over how to get Ukraine to investigate a political opponent. He has co-opted Rudy Giuliani, Mick Mulvaney, Gordon Sondland, Rick Perry, and probably many others in this campaign, and he has used as bait both military aid and a personal meeting with Ukraine’s president at the White House. This was no off-the-cuff effort.

This is as clear a case of abuse of power as anyone could imagine. How is it possible to leave a man in office who does something like this?

More Evidence of a Trump Quid Pro Quo at
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/10/the-evidence-of-a-trump-quid-pr
o-quo-is-becoming-overwhelming/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Friday, October 18, 2019 4:43 PM

‘Get over it’: Mulvaney’s twin admissions put Trump at the center of emoluments and Ukraine controversies

First came the lengthy infomercial touting President Trump’s private golf resort in Florida as “far and away the best” site in the country to host next year’s Group of Seven summit of world leaders. Then, an admission: Trump did, in fact, withhold aid to Ukraine because he wanted the government there to investigate Democrats.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/get-over-it-mulvaneys-twin-adm
issions-put-trump-at-the-center-of-emoluments-and-ukraine-controversies/ar-AAIWAYh?ocid=spartanntp

Typical Trumpian move. First deny, then admit and claim so what, everybody does it. After that it's up to his minions to make that case. Not with evidence but instead with innuendo and lies.

The missing piece is our local trolls now admitting they were full of shit in their denials of Trumps guilt.

tick tock morons tick tock

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SECOND

Friday, October 18, 2019 7:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

The missing piece is our local trolls now admitting they were full of shit in their denials of Trump's guilt.

tick tock morons tick tock

Signym wanted a "loose cannon" for President. I see no reason for Signym or 1kiki to abandon Trump. He has become a dozen loose cannons. Everyday there are more and more loose cannons crashing around and breaking things. Calling Trump a bull in a china shop does not do justice to how many things he breaks:

When a politician is prepared to remove a fundamental underpinning of shame and ethics from his political personality, there's almost no limit to his destructive political behavior.

The President's brazen willingness to do exactly what he wants -- key to his appeal to voters angry with the political establishment in 2016 -- shone through a wild few hours that briefly stole the spotlight from the Democratic impeachment inquiry.

First, Mulvaney blew away the cobwebs in the White House Briefing Room by announcing that the President would hold next year's G7 summit at his Doral resort in Florida.

Even for an administration that has redefined the concept of conflicts of interests, this is a staggering move. Mulvaney insisted with a straight face that Trump would not profit from the summit, even though millions of dollars from foreign delegations will flood into the coffers of the struggling resort and bring a worldwide branding boost.

Then Mulvaney made an even more unabashed declaration, admitting that Trump did freeze nearly $400 million in aid to coerce Ukraine into investigating his Democratic opponents.

More at "The guardrails are off the Trump presidency"
www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/politics/donald-trump-impeachment-turkey-kurds-
g7-mulvaney/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Monday, October 21, 2019 2:43 AM

They're Russian tolls second. I don't expect them to do anything but continue to lie
T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, October 21, 2019 5:40 AM

Just laughing until 2024 is all.

I'd tell you to keep it up and watch whatever GOP president skate to victory after that, but there's no point in doing so because you're going to do it whether I like it or not.

Maybe a Trump electoral blowout will finally change the political landscape and make the Democrat party finally purge the ballast.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Monday, October 21, 2019 8:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just laughing until 2024 is all.

I'd tell you to keep it up and watch whatever GOP president skate to victory after that, but there's no point in doing so because you're going to do it whether I like it or not.

Maybe a Trump electoral blowout will finally change the political landscape and make the Democrat party finally purge the ballast.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It will be such a terrible burden upon me if Trump wins because I'll have to go to the bank with a bigger truck to deposit my money.

Trump is complaining that the news isn't allowing him to walk off with an extra $7 million in Federal money (He says it's "free"; I say he is full of baloney):

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted
6:17 AM - 21 Oct 2019

Doral in Miami would have been the best place to hold the G-7, and free, but too much heat from the Do Nothing Radical Left Democrats & their Partner, the Fake News Media! I’m surprised that they allow me to give up my $400,000 Plus Presidential Salary! We’ll find someplace else!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1186270381491081218

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Monday, October 21, 2019 8:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Just laughing until 2024 is all.

I'd tell you to keep it up and watch whatever GOP president skate to victory after that, but there's no point in doing so because you're going to do it whether I like it or not.

Maybe a Trump electoral blowout will finally change the political landscape and make the Democrat party finally purge the ballast.

It will be such a terrible burden upon me if Trump wins because I'll have to go to the bank with a bigger truck to deposit my money.

Trump is complaining that the news isn't allowing him to walk off with an extra $7 million in Federal money (He says it's "free"; I say he is full of baloney):

With jack second it's about him against us, instead of should Trump be president. That's how a wack job thinks.

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SECOND

Monday, October 21, 2019 8:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

With jack second it's about him against us, instead of should Trump be president. That's how a wack job thinks.

It's fine with me if 6ixStringJack has aligned himself with the elderly. I'm elderly, so, thank you for voting GOP, although I don't:

"It’s overly simplistic to say that older Americans vote Republican, they’re just a lot more likely than younger voters to do so. Exit polls show that in 2012, 56% of voters age 65 and over voted for Republican candidate Mitt Romney compared to just 37% of the youngest voting group, those age 18 to 29.

In the last presidential election, 72% of Americans age 65 and over voted, compared to just 41% of those age 18 to 24. Though that gap in turnout is huge, the fact that it exists is hardly surprising – it’s a pretty well-known fact that the older an American is, the more likely they are to vote.

But that wasn’t always the case – as recently as 1990, Americans age 45 to 64 were as likely to vote as those age 65 and over. And in the elections of 1964 and 1968, Americans who were 25 to 44 years old were slightly more likely to cast a ballot than the oldest voters."

www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2016/sep/23/older-americans-vote-rep
ublican-fact-check-election-2016

"Trump's biggest risk in 2020 isn't losing young people. It's losing their grandparents."- www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-biggest-risk-2020-isn-t-losing-y
oung-people-ncna1018216

People 65 and older have long been solidly Republican, serving as reliable voters who can be counted on to not only turn out more than other blocs, but also do so with less effort on the part of campaigns. Their support was evident in both the 2010 and the 2014 midterm elections, when the GOP won these voters by 21 and 16 points respectively. So, too, was it visible in the last two presidential elections, as senior voters backed Mitt Romney by 12 and Donald Trump by eight points.

However, in 2018 the GOP managed to win voters 65 and older by just two points.

There are signs that this is not a fluke, and that the Trump era has caused senior citizens to abandon the GOP in numbers big enough that could produce huge electoral consequences for both congressional Republicans and Trump alike.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Monday, October 21, 2019 9:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by G:

My only question is: how much bigger will the crowds be at his impeachment than at his inauguration?

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tick tock

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Impeachment Circular Firing Squad? See Trump's Allies Turn On Aide Who Admitted Ukraine Plot

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:36 AM

How's the impeachment coming?

I hear that they're not even voting on starting the investigation again.

WTF Pelosi? Let's get the ball rolling before the GOP takes the house back, huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:16 AM

Let me add to your page count by saying that intelligence and evidence gathering is a lost art that once belonged to "conservative" types.

sgg

SECOND

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How's the impeachment coming?

I hear that they're not even voting on starting the investigation again.

WTF Pelosi? Let's get the ball rolling before the GOP takes the house back, huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

No, 6ixStringJack. The longer Pelosi tortures Trump about the 100 things he has to hide, the better it is. The more anxious Trump is about being revealed naked, the more fun will be had at his expense.

Weak and defenseless, Trump bows down in the face of ‘Crazed and Irrational Hostility’

Like most other old trolls, it’s easy to tell when tweeter Trump is whipped: “Based on both Media & Democrat Crazed and Irrational Hostility, we will no longer consider Trump National Doral, Miami, as the Host Site for the G-7 in 2020. We will begin the search for another site, including the possibility of Camp David, immediately.” - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1185735579327193093

The problem with Trump’s explanation is that if he really believed that all he was up against was crazed and irrational hostility, why would he back down? What happened to his famous counter-punch?

It turns out that the president who never tires of expressing his contempt for alliances, is becoming increasingly aware that if he loses his GOP allies on Capitol Hill, he’s advancing towards impeachment.

In that event, he probably won’t receive Nixon’s fig leaf of an honorable departure: a red carpet to the presidential helicopter, followed by a final Air Force One trip back to his family home.

The reason Trump dropped his Florida resort as the next G7 venue is the opposite to the one he tweeted. The switch was actually prompted by irate Republicans.
www.businessinsider.com/trump-dropped-plan-g7-his-resort-because-of-go
p-reports-2019-10

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:09 AM

lol

Trump sleeps like a baby at night.

He has zero concern over the games the Democrats are playing.

How have you been sleeping at night, buddy?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

Let me add to your page count by saying that intelligence and evidence gathering is a lost art that once belonged to "conservative" types.

sgg

It's not about page counts JO. It's about posting what I see as pertinent information that's being reported. On topics I deem relevant. Facts that show what the trolls are posting here is bullshit.

That said, I'm not getting into a back and forth with the trolls. It's very rare that I respond to anything they post. It's been year after year with nothing but bullshit posts from them. I already know what they'll say because I've heard it all before. I post updated facts that are in the news. Truths that expose their aversion to posting the truth.

I rarely go to threads created by trolls because I don't wish to engage with them. Why would I. All they do is lie and troll.

When I see you or G start a thread I try to stop by. I try and post something supportive of you and move on. It appears for the most part both you a G do the same. Only SECOND shows a real interest in going back and forth with them consistently.

T

SECOND

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Only SECOND shows a real interest in going back and forth with them consistently.

Weak and defenseless, Trump bows down in the face of ‘Crazed and Irrational Hostility’

Like most other old trolls, it’s easy to tell when tweeter Trump is whipped: “Based on both Media & Democrat Crazed and Irrational Hostility, we will no longer consider Trump National Doral, Miami, as the Host Site for the G-7 in 2020. We will begin the search for another site, including the possibility of Camp David, immediately.” - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1185735579327193093

The problem with Trump’s explanation is that if he really believed that all he was up against was crazed and irrational hostility, why would he back down? What happened to his famous counter-punch?

It turns out that the president who never tires of expressing his contempt for alliances, is becoming increasingly aware that if he loses his GOP allies on Capitol Hill, he’s advancing towards impeachment.

In that event, he probably won’t receive Nixon’s fig leaf of an honorable departure: a red carpet to the presidential helicopter, followed by a final Air Force One trip back to his family home.

The reason Trump dropped his Florida resort as the next G7 venue is the opposite to the one he tweeted. The switch was actually prompted by irate Republicans.
www.businessinsider.com/trump-dropped-plan-g7-his-resort-because-of-go
p-reports-2019-10

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:54 PM

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THG

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:11 PM

U.S. diplomat who questioned 'crazy' Ukraine policy to testify in Trump probe

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. lawmakers conducting an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump will hear on Tuesday from the top U.S. official in Ukraine, who once said it was "crazy" to withhold military aid for the country for domestic political reasons.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-diplomat-who-questioned-cra
zy-ukraine-policy-to-testify-in-trump-probe/ar-AAJ9wWO?ocid=spartandhp

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

Let me add to your page count by saying that intelligence and evidence gathering is a lost art that once belonged to "conservative" types.

sgg

It's not about page counts JO. It's about posting what I see as pertinent information that's being reported. On topics I deem relevant. Facts that show what the trolls are posting here is bullshit.

That said, I'm not getting into a back and forth with the trolls. It's very rare that I respond to anything they post. It's been year after year with nothing but bullshit posts from them. I already know what they'll say because I've heard it all before. I post updated facts that are in the news. Truths that expose their aversion to posting the truth.

I rarely go to threads created by trolls because I don't wish to engage with them. Why would I. All they do is lie and troll.

When I see you or G start a thread I try to stop by. I try and post something supportive of you and move on. It appears for the most part both you a G do the same. Only SECOND shows a real interest in going back and forth with them consistently.

T

Are you alleging that SGG is JO's sockpuppet, or are you posting drunk again?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:09 PM

Shoo troll

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:16 PM

It's a legitimate question.

Did you call SGG JO because you are drunk?

Did you call SGG JO because you believe one is a sockpuppet of the other?

Did you call SGG JO because you are stupid?

Only one of those three answers are correct. Which one is it?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Wednesday, October 23, 2019 12:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 23, 2019 1:03 AM

Spineless, huh?

Pot... meet kettle.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 23, 2019 1:28 AM

While we're on the topic of approval ratings, it should be mentioned that Trump's current approval rating dwarfs both that of congress and trust in the Legacy Media.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Thursday, October 24, 2019 4:56 PM

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SECOND

Friday, October 25, 2019 1:06 AM

The desire of House Democrats to avoid confusing the issue by turning their impeachment inquiry into a sprawling investigation or a comprehensive accounting of Donald Trump’s crimes is understandable. And certainly if Senate Republicans indicate that they are prepared to hold Trump accountable in exchange for Democrats agreeing to act swiftly so that the country can move on, Democrats should do the responsible thing and remove Trump from office ASAP.

But there’s no indication that’s happening. Instead, among Republicans, only Sen. Mitt Romney has spoken about Trump’s misconduct with any degree of clarity, and even Romney hasn’t said he deems the total subversion of American foreign policy to necessarily be an impeachable offense.

If Republicans are going to stand by Trump regardless, there is absolutely no reason to cut the impeachment inquiry short or artificially limit its scope. The volume of leaks coming out of the Trump White House sometimes creates the impression that we have visibility into what’s really happening there. The moral of the Ukraine story is that isn’t true. A whistleblower’s memo brought new facts to light that were previously being covered-up. And the memo itself was nearly covered up. The launching of the formal inquiry has brought forth fruitful testimony from government officials who were apparently planning to stay silent otherwise.

It’s certainly possible that Trump’s corrupt dealings with Ukraine is the only example of him attempting dirty deals with foreign leaders. But it’s also quite possible it’s just the only example we happen to know about.

What we know for sure is that there are other call records that have been inappropriately kept on a super-classified server in order to shield their contents from other people in the government. Unless Republicans start showing some immediate interest in removal over Ukraine it would be political malpractice to not look into what’s happening during Trump’s calls with leaders of countries like Turkey, Russia, and Saudi Arabia.

"It’s time to broaden the impeachment inquiry"
More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/24/20927844/impeachment-inquir
y-testimony-taylor-trump

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Friday, October 25, 2019 1:27 AM

Trump keeps breaking with bipartisan sentiment in Congress to defend Saudi Arabia — three of his four vetoes as president have been about this. The public message on this is that he does it for the sake of American defense contractors whose Saudi contracts he doesn’t want to imperil.

And maybe that’s all there is to it, but we’ve also known for a long time now that Trump conducts diplomacy with Saudi Arabia through irregular channels overseen by his son-in-law. There’s no particularly clear reason why you would do things that way, and Congress should ask whether Trump is really the selfless defender of arms dealers’ profits that he portrays himself as or is he cutting himself in on the deal.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/24/20927844/impeachment-inquir
y-testimony-taylor-trump

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Saturday, October 26, 2019 7:15 PM

Trump frustrated as White House effort to defy impeachment inquiry fails to halt witness testimony, advisers say

After weeks of dismissing the impeachment inquiry as a hollow partisan attack, President Trump and his closest advisers now recognize that the snowballing probe poses a serious threat to the president — and that they have little power to block it, according to multiple aides and advisers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-frustrated-as-white-hous
e-effort-to-defy-impeachment-inquiry-fails-to-halt-witness-testimony-advisers-say/ar-AAJmZl7?ocid=spartandhp

This isn't just about Trump being corrupt. It's also about his putting this countries security at risk for personal gain. It's about collaborating with foreign entities to corrupt our elections.

No, it isn't just about Trump. It's also about the republicans assisting and enabling him to do so.

tick tock

T

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