Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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Quote:Too bad for you, but Trump and his spokesmen, including Rudy, have no control over an impeachment.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/excerpts-white-house-letter-to-hou
se-democrats-regarding-their-unconstitutional-inquiry/?utm_source=link
The Constitution contains just a handful of lines discussing impeachment. But in those scant words, it gives the House and its leaders wide latitude to decide how to handle it.
Here’s what the Constitution says about the House’s role: “The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.” Likewise, the Constitution gives the Senate the “sole” power to try all impeachments, saying, “no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present.”
But beyond those lines, there isn’t much more information spelling out exactly how the process should work — which gives the House free rein to decide how things can go, including whether to launch the inquiry with a full floor vote or not.
Maybe Trump should take this to the Supreme Court? Complain that a President can't be impeached until the President agrees to be impeached.
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https://www.npr.org/2019/10/09/768540896/who-sets-the-rules-when-is-it
-real-and-other-big-questions-on-impeachment
"Pelosi is breaking with precedent, but not rules or the law."
Legally, precedent is important where the law is silent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States
And, while it's not a precedent to have investigations voted on by the full House, it IS a precedent that the full House vote on impeachment hearings.
In addition (according to wiki):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States
Jefferson's Manual, which is integral to the Rules of the House of Representatives,[16] states that impeachment is set in motion by charges made on the floor, charges proferred by a memorial, a member's resolution referred to a committee, a message from the president, or from facts developed and reported by an investigating committee of the House. It further states that a proposition to impeach is a question of high privilege in the House and at once supersedes business otherwise in order under the rules governing the order of business.
The House Practice: A Guide to the Rules, Precedents and Procedures of the House[17] is a reference source for information on the rules and selected precedents governing the House procedure, prepared by the House Parliamentarian. The manual has a chapter on the House's rules, procedures, and precedent for impeachment.
A reading of the most recent available document indicates a vote by the full House is necessary to conduct an investigation.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-HPRACTICE-115/pdf/GPO-HPRACTIC
E-115.pdf
Generally
Under the modern practice, an impeachment is normally instituted by the House by the adoption of a resolution calling for a committee investigation of charges against the officer in question. This committee may, after investigation, recommend the dismissal of charges or it may recommend impeachment.
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Quote:1kiki, you forgot to mention that Trump is stonewalling. That precedent was established by Richard Nixon. “I want you all to stonewall it, let them plead the Fifth Amendment, cover up, or anything else,” Richard Nixon said privately to his closest associates on March 22, 1973. Publicly, the President said,”I condemn any attempts to cover up in this case, no matter who is involved.”
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Legally, precedent is important where the law is silent.
https://watergate.info/sussman/extract-6-the-great-cover-up
For one thing, there is the matter of the tapes. Had Nixon not been so foolish as to install that taping system in his office or if Alexander Butterfield had not made that historic revelation of its existence to the Senate Watergate committee, Richard Nixon would undoubtedly still be President of the United States. There would still have been much incriminating evidence (Dean’s testimony, for example), but there would not have been the solid, indisputable proof that was needed to turn most Republicans against one of their own.
It is sobering to realize just how reluctant Congress, including Democrats as well as Republicans, was to take action against the President. Congress acted only when an outraged public demanded it.
Equivalent to Nixon's tapes are Trump's tax returns. The public outrage when Trump's tax cheating is known will make a difference that sweeps away all of Trump's stonewalling. I expect Trump's tax returns to be decided by the Supreme Court just as the Court decided about Nixon's tapes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon
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A reading of the most recent available document indicates a vote by the full House is necessary to conduct an investigation.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-HPRACTICE-115/pdf/GPO-HPRACTIC
E-115.pdf
Generally
Under the modern practice, an impeachment is normally instituted by the House by the adoption of a resolution calling for a committee investigation of charges against the officer in question. This committee may, after investigation, recommend the dismissal of charges or it may recommend impeachment.
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Quote:1kiki, you are mixing impeachment of judges with impeachment of Presidents. Even though both are called "impeachment", one is well established procedure and the other is not, mostly because there are thousands of judges at any time, but only one President.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
A reading of the most recent available document indicates a vote by the full House is necessary to conduct an investigation.
1kiki, read about what stupidity, even business related, personal behavior got many different Federal Judges removed. Trump does similar stuff all the time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_investigations_of_United_Sta
tes_federal_judges
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Quote:Find me that quote, m'kay?
Originally posted by SLOPPY SECONDS:
1kiki, you are mixing impeachment of judges with impeachment of Presidents. Even though both are called "impeachment", one is well established procedure and the other is not, mostly because there are thousands of judges at any time, but only one President.
Because I have a quote from the very same section referencing William J. Clinton, and the HOUSE VOTE procedure used to start an impeachment inquiry, as an indicated practice.
So - go find that quote. Or I'll just figure you're doing your usual bullshitting (lying).
I'll give you some time to cover your ass. Then I'll post the quote from the House Manual.
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment
A new high of 51 percent wants Trump impeached and removed from office, another 4 percent want him impeached but not removed. Do the math folks. That's 55% that want him impeached.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-f
or-trump-impeachment/ar-AAIxxhs?ocid=spartandhp#page=2
This is a Fox poll people. Watch what happens now with the Syria debacle added to the mix. Tick tock baby tick tock
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And over 75% of people in the US supported the Iraq War.
Yanno, a billion flies eat shit. I bet you did, too.
It doesn't make it caviar.
BTW - The Iraq War shit you ate. The Mueller shit you ate.
... Tell me. How does it taste?
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment
A new high of 51 percent wants Trump impeached and removed from office, another 4 percent want him impeached but not removed. Do the math folks. That's 55% that want him impeached.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-f
or-trump-impeachment/ar-AAIxxhs?ocid=spartandhp#page=2
This is a Fox poll people. Watch what happens now with the Syria debacle added to the mix. Tick tock baby tick tock
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As Capitol Hill Drafts Sanctions on Turkey, Trump Shrugs at Kurds
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who spent the week engaging in a lengthy Twitter tirade against the president’s decision, ratcheted up his rhetoric on Wednesday morning against Turkey and the administration.
“Pray for our Kurdish allies who have been shamelessly abandoned by the Trump Administration. This move ensures the reemergence of ISIS,” Graham tweeted on Wednesday. “Will lead effort in Congress to make Erdogan pay a heavy price.”
By Wednesday afternoon, Graham announced legislation with Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) that would impose aggressive new sanctions on Turkey.
The bill would sanction the U.S. assets of top Turkish leaders, including President Recep Tayyep Erdogan; it also would punish any foreign individual or entity who sells weapons or provides military aid to Turkey, or supports the country’s domestic energy industry.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-capitol-hill-drafts-sanctio
ns-on-turkey-trump-shrugs-at-kurds/ar-AAIxsJJ?ocid=spartandhp
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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment
A new high of 51 percent wants Trump impeached and removed from office, another 4 percent want him impeached but not removed. Do the math folks. That's 55% that want him impeached.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-f
or-trump-impeachment/ar-AAIxxhs?ocid=spartandhp#page=2
This is a Fox poll people. Watch what happens now with the Syria debacle added to the mix. Tick tock baby tick tock
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lol
Too bad we don't have mob rule, huh?
I bet 20% of those people at least are in California.
Don't forget, that I'm all for impeachment too. There's a lot of us.
You realize that impeachment isn't removal, correct?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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