Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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Quote:Check this reality: Trump is reportedly blaming Rick Perry for his infamous call with the Ukrainian president.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Sigh.
Gee, for a moment there SECOND, you were almost thinking.
YOUR cult-like belief is that all Republicans are all bad, and its corollary is that all Democrats are all good. You repeat that mantra to yourself and to everyone else endlessly, every day. It would never occur to you that some Republicans did good things, and that many Democrats are corrupt power seekers who've not only sold their souls to the the globalists, they've sold us too.
Well, that's the filter you choose to stick with, and until you choose to wake up and look AT REALITY in all of its messiness, there's no reason to discuss this with you.
Reported Saturday, Trump told House Republicans on Friday that he hadn't even wanted to call Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky — and that he had only done so at the urging of Energy Secretary Rick Perry. Perry is resigning shortly, making a convenient goat for Trump.
Signym, do you get the feeling that Trump is out-of-his-mind? That he blames Perry, or anybody but himself?
www.businessinsider.com/trump-reportedly-blames-rick-perry-for-call-wi
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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updated - the magical shifting kaleidescope of facts that's called the news
So, I listen to old news, in this case NBC, to refresh my memory of how the news is morphed to maintain the narrative even as 'facts' fail. 'Facts' are dropped day by day from newscast to newscast, never to reappear.
Here are a few highlights of the ever-changing 'facts' about Ukrainegate.
background timeline
Trump-Zelensky phone call reported Sept 20, 2019
News reports are full of references to 'promises', 'quid pro quo', and 'pressure'
Pelosi announces formal impeachment hearings Sept 24, 2019
Trump-Zelensky phone call transcript released Sept 25, 2019
News reports replace references to 'promises', 'quid pro quo', and 'pressure' with 'ask' without notice or retraction of previous reporting
Whistleblower complaint released Sept 26, 2019
News reports drop references to knowledge without notice or retraction of previous reporting
It was a whistleblower (a mole)
With knowledge (gossip)
About 'promises made' that were (no promises)
Putting national security at risk (no risk)
For a quid pro quo (no quid pro quo).
Well there were no promises, but there was pressure (no pressure)
For a quid pro quo (no quid pro quo).
And Giuliani broke several laws by negotiating with Ukrainian officials (there were no meetings or communications).
Pelosi claims placement of transcript on server is a 'cover-up' (Obama did the same) // (NBC) "it was made clear to the Ukrainian government that access to President Trump depended on its willingness to "play ball""// focus is shifted off of Trump and onto Giuliani and Barr
Still listening and will post more soon.
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Quote:A highlight that has remained unchanged from the beginning:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Here are a few highlights of the ever-changing 'facts' about Ukrainegate.
Trump said that if he is impeached, it won’t be due to the fact that he violated his oath of office by inviting foreign governments to interfere in the American democratic process. His downfall will instead be precipitated by a shadowy cabal of partisan Democrats, bent on overthrowing him — and American democracy, by proxy — through corrupt and illegitimate means.
Another unchanging highlight: Trump encourages assault and murder of his political opponents during impeachment and after. There is little chance that the FBI or the Justice Department will heed the president’s demand to arrest and jail California Representative Adam Schiff for “treason” and “fraud.” But there’s a very real chance that Trump’s supporters will decide that violence is the only appropriate response and act accordingly.
That risk is well-established. On the eve of the 2018 midterm elections last year, more than a dozen pipe bombs were mailed to frequent targets of Trump’s criticism: the Obama and Clinton families, multiple Democratic members of Congress, other liberal officials and donors, and the news network CNN.
In a different case, federal agents arrested Coast Guard lieutenant Christopher Hassan on firearms charges. In their motion to hold him before trial, prosecutors laid out a disturbing plot by Hassan to carry out a wave of assassinations against prominent Democrats and journalists.
In August of 2016, Trump warned rally-goers that if Clinton appointed federal judges there would be “nothing you can do, folks,” then added, “although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know.” In August, ABC News reported that it had found 36 criminal cases nationwide where Trump’s name was invoked by defendants who committed or threatened to commit violent acts. The network said it found no state or federal cases where defendants claimed they acted in the name of Barack Obama or George W. Bush.
Americans are receiving a disturbing set of messages from Trump: that Democrats have brought the country to the brink of civil war, that speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi’s effort to impeach the president is an illegitimate coup, and that liberals’ open-borders policies will make it impossible for Republicans to win future elections. The majority of Trump supporters won’t respond to this by picking up a rifle. But some will.
The specter of potential violence shouldn’t deter lawmakers from pushing forward with the impeachment process. If anything, it underscores why Trump’s impeachment is a moral imperative.
https://newrepublic.com/article/155245/donald-trumps-new-lost-cause
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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We are taught from our first moments what to look for and how to see things...
Good post!
It seemz to me that education haz a major element uv limiting peepl'z ability to consider alternativz. Trainz them to depend on Authority for opinionz insted uv formulating their own.
I was taught how to think for myself JO. Not how I should think. With that, and my own life experiences, I've leaned for myself what to look for. No one tells me. That's the difference between growing up Russian or growing up American. USA USA USA
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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We are taught from our first moments what to look for and how to see things...
Good post!
It seemz to me that education haz a major element uv limiting peepl'z ability to consider alternativz. Trainz them to depend on Authority for opinionz insted uv formulating their own.
I was taught how to think for myself JO. Not how I should think. With that, and my onw life experiences, I've leaned for myself what to look for. No one tells me. That's the difference between growing up Russian or growing up American. USA USA USA
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Where do you get your info?
Political cartoons, historically almost entirely drawn by partisans with an agenda.
Polls, without looking into the methodology or even bothering to look at an aggregate to at least balance them out and monitor them for trends.
Claims by politicians, without doing any fact checking to see if they're full of shit or not (hint: They're almost always full of shit).
Claims by anonymous sources, which is the media's get out of jail free card for falsifying any story it wants to put out there.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Whistleblower’s attorney says team now representing ‘multiple’ officials
An attorney for the whistleblower who raised the alarm about President Trump’s communications with Ukraine said Sunday that “multiple” whistleblowers have come forward.
The news, which comes as House Democrats have launched an impeachment inquiry and are subpoenaing the White House for documents, adds to the deepening political crisis facing the president.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whistleblowers-attorney-says-t
eam-now-representing-multiple-officials/2019/10/06/18b48fec-e83d-11e9-9306-47cb0324fd44_story.html
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Huh.
This sounds like the same "pile on" that propelled the RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hoax. Which led to nowhere
Also, the same "pile on" that was orchestrated for the Kavanaugh hearing. Which also fizzled.
This will all turn out to be Much Ado About Nothing but the deep state is pulling out all the stops, and the production has been arranged to play from now until Nov 2020.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Yup. It's going nowhere.
If it were really that serious, the kiddies wouldn't be taking a recess until October 15th.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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