Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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updated - the magical shifting kaleidescope of facts that's called the news
So, I listen to old news, in this case NBC, to refresh my memory of how the news is morphed to maintain the narrative even as 'facts' fail. 'Facts' are dropped day by day from newscast to newscast, never to reappear.
Here are a few highlights of the ever-changing 'facts' about Ukrainegate.
background timeline
Trump-Zelensky phone call reported Sept 20, 2019
News reports are full of references to 'promises', 'quid pro quo', and 'pressure'
Pelosi announces formal impeachment hearings Sept 24, 2019
Trump-Zelensky phone call transcript released Sept 25, 2019
News reports replace references to 'promises', 'quid pro quo', and 'pressure' with 'ask' without notice or retraction of previous reporting
Whistleblower complaint released Sept 26, 2019
News reports drop references to knowledge without notice or retraction of previous reporting
It was a whistleblower (a mole)
With knowledge (gossip)
About 'promises made' that were (no promises)
Putting national security at risk (no risk)
For a quid pro quo (no quid pro quo).
Well there were no promises, but there was pressure (no pressure)
For a quid pro quo (no quid pro quo).
And Giuliani broke several laws by negotiating with Ukrainian officials (there were no meetings or communications).
Pelosi claims placement of transcript on server is a 'cover-up' (Obama did the same) // (NBC) "it was made clear to the Ukrainian government that access to President Trump depended on its willingness to "play ball""// focus is shifted off of Trump and onto Giuliani and Barr
By October 01, 2019 NBC has shifted its focus off of Trump, and onto Giuliani, Barr, and Pompeo // it also claims Giuliani talked with Ukrainian prosecutor Lutsenko, but failed to mention he's a FORMER prosecutor, not one currently in any position of authority
By October 03, 2019 NBC's narrative has gone from Trump's 'promises', 'pressure', 'quid quo pro', and 'security concerns' to 'privately urging' without a single acknowledgement or correction of previous reporting
Still listening and will post more soon.
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The Democratic Party does not want a violent confrontation with the GOP. The Speaker of the House is avoiding all the back and forth, the dithering, and the inevitable Senate vote declaring Trump innocent. Instead, Nancy is waiting for Trump to go the way of Jeffrey Epstein, by killing himself, and taking down some Republican politicians with him. Will Trump commit political suicide or not? I don't know, but I do know some Republicans who have killed themselves. Why not Trump? He sure doesn't seem mentally sound. A comparison of tax cheating Trump to Epstein or Hitler, who killed himself, is no joke. The other big Nazis stood trial, then hanged. Epstein's co-conspirators will stand trial. Maybe Trump would rather die than be separated by a tax court from his money? If the Speaker keeps bullying Trump, maybe he will see only one way out.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No kidding dude. You've said so a billion times already.
Not at all to the point.
We are talking about how Trump wants to be impeached and has practically been begging the Democrats to do so. He's tearing the Democrat party into shreds over the issue and even backed Nancy Pelosi into a corner on it even though she's smart enough to know it's a bad move.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I hope Trump lives. He is fun to watch. The antics of his voters while defending him are even more amusing.
I'll tell you a story: a little old lady I know had a flat tire. The flat tire is Trump, the spare tire is Pence, the lady is the GOP, the car is the USA. She won't pull over her car to let me change the tire. She told me as she is travelling at 2 MPH that she can make it all the way home, half mile away. I followed in my Ford Flex as the Trump tire fell to pieces. It was fun to watch, but she ruined the rim and damaged the car. She wouldn't stop. She had groceries and ice cream melting.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
You don't know how to change a tire.
Fake news.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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SECOND seemes to think that if he keeps re-explaining himself we'll join him in his obssession.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Quote:You know the sound that a flat tire makes? Flop, flop, flop. That is Trump. It is time to stop the car and replace flat Trump with spare tire Pence. Flat tires can be patched, but I see that Trump is afraid of what will happen to him. Maybe he will end up where worn out tires and ex-Presidents go:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You don't know how to change a tire.
Fake news.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland was ordered by the State Department to not appear before Congress for a closed-door meeting as part of the ongoing impeachment inquiry. Sondland was mentioned in the original whistleblower complaint and a key witness to the Trump-Ukraine dealings. Trump is afraid of what Sondland might say, that Trump is a flop, flop, flop.
www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-latest-dem-steps-t
o-protect-whistleblower-live-updates-2019-10-08/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND seemes to think that if he keeps re-explaining himself we'll join him in his obssession.
LOL...
I'm largely going to just sit this one out and let time show that there's nothing here, once again.
In the mean time, it's fun to antagonize.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:
Nixon chose to resign. If Trump was smart, he would resign.
(Trump would get a pardon)
The insane Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/cycle they mistake for reality.
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Quote:Sit this one out. Trump is showing he is in over his head and out of his mind:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND seemes to think that if he keeps re-explaining himself we'll join him in his obssession.
LOL...
I'm largely going to just sit this one out and let time show that there's nothing here, once again.
In the mean time, it's fun to antagonize.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
1) Trump talked to Turkey’s president last night and agreed to let him invade northern Syria if Turkey was willing to take a few thousand ISIS prisoners off our hands.
2) After the phone call, Trump decided to go a step further and withdraw all American forces from northern Syria, thus giving Turkey a completely free hand.
3) None of Trump’s aides or military advisors knew he was planning to do this.
4) Eventually someone explained to Trump that Turkey didn’t actually care about ISIS. They just wanted to wipe out the Kurds in northern Syria, who have fought along our side in the war against ISIS for many years. Turkey considers them terrorists.
5) Informed of this, Trump tweeted that, hey, we paid the Kurds plenty for their help, so everything is even. Besides, he implied, maybe Turkey has a point about the Kurds.
6) Even Republicans couldn’t stomach this, so Trump hastily tweeted that if anything bad happened, we could always “go back & BLAST!”
7) Republicans still couldn’t stomach this sellout, so then Trump tweeted that if Turkey does anything “off limits”—whatever that is—“I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey.”
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/10/in-which-i-try-to-make-sense-of
-donald-trumps-middle-east-policy/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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58 Percent Support House Impeachment Inquiry: Poll
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updated - the magical shifting kaleidescope of facts that's called the news
So, I listen to old news, in this case NBC, to refresh my memory of how the news is morphed to maintain the narrative even as 'facts' fail. 'Facts' are dropped day by day from newscast to newscast, never to reappear.
Here are a few highlights of the ever-changing 'facts' about Ukrainegate.
background timeline
Trump-Zelensky phone call reported Sept 20, 2019
News reports are full of references to 'promises', 'quid pro quo', and 'pressure'
Pelosi announces formal impeachment hearings Sept 24, 2019
Trump-Zelensky phone call transcript released Sept 25, 2019
News reports replace references to 'promises', 'quid pro quo', and 'pressure' with 'ask' without notice or retraction of previous reporting
Whistleblower complaint released Sept 26, 2019
News reports drop references to knowledge without notice or retraction of previous reporting
It was a whistleblower (a mole)
With knowledge (gossip)
About 'promises made' that were (no promises)
Putting national security at risk (no risk)
For a quid pro quo (no quid pro quo).
Well there were no promises, but there was pressure (no pressure)
For a quid pro quo (no quid pro quo).
And Giuliani broke several laws by negotiating with Ukrainian officials (there were no meetings or communications).
Pelosi claims placement of transcript on server is a 'cover-up' (Obama did the same) // (NBC) "it was made clear to the Ukrainian government that access to President Trump depended on its willingness to "play ball""// focus is shifted off of Trump and onto Giuliani and Barr
By October 01, 2019 NBC has shifted its focus off of Trump, and onto Giuliani, Barr, and Pompeo // it also claims Giuliani talked with Ukrainian prosecutor Lutsenko, but failed to mention he's a FORMER prosecutor, not one currently in any position of authority
By October 03, 2019 NBC's narrative has gone from Trump's 'promises', 'pressure', 'quid quo pro', and 'security concerns' to 'privately urging' without a single acknowledgement or correction of previous reporting
Still listening and will post more soon.
PBS Newshour Sept 24, 2019
Spanberger is a VA rep and former CIA officer. In addition to her background, which makes her impartiality suspect, she seriously deviates from available facts, as does the Newshour host, states her own abundant bias, and engages in political posturing.
Sep 24, 2019 6:50 PM EDT
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/spanberger-so-many-troubling-threads
-in-trump-allegations-that-full-investigation-is-needed
Rep. Harris: Releasing Trump’s Ukraine call transcript ‘right thing to do’
William Brangham:
As the push for impeachment grows, we want to hear from Capitol Hill. We start with one of the seven freshman Democrats who wrote that piece in The Washington Post. Congresswoman Abigail Spanberger is a Democrat from Virginia, and she sits on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. We spoke earlier this evening. Congresswoman Spanberger, thank you very much for being here.
You obviously heard the speaker's announcement that she is moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry. In the piece that you wrote in The Washington Post last night, you wrote — quote — "These allegations" — this is about the president's behavior with regards to Ukraine — "are stunning, both in the national security threat they pose and the potential corruption they represent." You spent some time in the CIA. Can you give me a sense about, what it is that is most troubling about his behavior?
Rep. Abigail Spanberger, D-Va.:
What's most troubling about these allegations is the fact that we see a president who allegedly pressured a foreign governm
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