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Sunday, August 25, 2019 8:24 PM

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Monday, August 26, 2019 5:08 AM

We're in big trouble.

I think the 2020 election iz not going to happen.

It will be clear that Trump will looz, so sumthing will happen to stop it.

Putin will shut down the communications networks, or the entire power grid.

Trump will then declare marshal law.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

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Monday, August 26, 2019 6:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
We're in big trouble.

I think the 2020 election iz not going to happen.

It will be clear that Trump will looz, so sumthing will happen to stop it.

Putin will shut down the communications networks, or the entire power grid.

Trump will then declare marshal law.

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .



Alex Jones was saying the exact same thing about Obama, minus the Russia bent, before the 2016 election.

I bought it because I drank my IQ down to a constant 35 back then.

What's making you nuts today?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 28, 2019 10:22 PM

Trump's actual goals are copied by Boris Johnson. Seeing the goals repeated in another country makes it clearer what is actually going on inside Trump's and Boris's brains:

Boris Johnson has promised aggressive tax cuts. This is a government that intends to realign Britain to the US and is set to govern just like US Republicans – cut taxes first, then maintain spending to blow up the deficit before using that to justify far deeper spending cuts.

While Johnson is unconstrained by principle or the shackles of ideology, he leads a cabinet of the hard right of the Conservative party. They have dedicated a lifetime to hacking back the state and severing Britain’s ties with the European Union, and it seems unlikely that they are on board with a project of investment in public services. (Remember Trump's $1.5 Trillion infrastructure promise that never materialized? Boris's promise is as fake as Trump's. www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/29/trump-promised-1-5-tril
lion-in-infrastructure-spending-hes-1-percent-of-the-way-there
/ )

So why would the public believe what Johnson says? The real secret of populists, from Donald Trump to Matteo Salvini to Johnson, is the conflation of transgression with truthfulness. The willingness to engage in bigotry and violate hard-won social norms against racist, homophobic or misogynistic language convinces people that these politicians “speak their mind” and “say what they think”. Paradoxically, their lack of virtue confirms their veracity.

Their bigotry is the result of calculation rather than miscalculation – and the predictable howls of outrage from critics only serves to amplify the message. The upcoming election will turn on whether Johnson is found out for what he is: Trump with a thesaurus, whose real agenda of a Brexit for the elite's benefit is disguised behind the thin veneer of a few spending announcements that come after a desperate decade of the degradation of Britain at home and abroad.

More at www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/28/boris-johnson-election-p
rorogue-parliament-populist-majority


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
We're in big trouble.

I think the 2020 election iz not going to happen.

It will be clear that Trump will looz, so sumthing will happen to stop it.

Putin will shut down the communications networks, or the entire power grid.

Trump will then declare marshal law.



Alex Jones was saying the exact same thing about Obama, minus the Russia bent, before the 2016 election.

I bought it because I drank my IQ down to a constant 35 back then.

What's making you nuts today?



He's f*ckin' with you. Damn. There's 4 people on this forum that have absolutely no sense of humor.

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
We're in big trouble.

I think the 2020 election iz not going to happen.

It will be clear that Trump will looz, so sumthing will happen to stop it.

Putin will shut down the communications networks, or the entire power grid.

Trump will then declare marshal law.



Alex Jones was saying the exact same thing about Obama, minus the Russia bent, before the 2016 election.

I bought it because I drank my IQ down to a constant 35 back then.

What's making you nuts today?



He's f*ckin' with you. Damn. There's 4 people on this forum that have absolutely no sense of humor.




Wishy just claimed that she was joking around about something the other day too.

It's not a sense of humor problem, Captain.

The problem is that when they're "joking" it sounds exactly the same as when they're being serious.

Unless you're proposing that every single thing that JO and Wishy have posted in the last 3 years were a joke.



Did you actually read JO's front page for his campaign website in the last week? If he's joking here, than he's also turned his campaign website into a joke as well.


At the very top of his campaign homepage:

Quote:

We're in big trouble.

If it looks like Trump will lose the 2020 election, there will be no election.
His puppet master, Vladimir Putin, will prevent it one way or another,
with the eager cooperation of the Republican party.



It continues...

Quote:

The Democratic leaders in Congress are playing by the rules of a game that was swiped off the
table in 2016, thinking it is Politics as Usual - Dem v Rep, when in reality the game is
WAR - Putin v Uncle Sam. So, every move they make is worthless and foolish.

Even if they wake up and start fighting today, it's too late. If they'd started impeachment proceedings
on the 1st day they took control of Congress and fought like rabid wolverines to bring down Trump,
Mitch McConnell and everybody else involved in the TrumPutin Conspiracy and following cover up,
we may have had a chance.

Instead, they sat and continue to sit by while Trump and McConnell charge full speed ahead to place
lackeys in key positions, hollow out our agencies and pack the courts with activist 'conservative'
judges. Republicans across the country gerrymander, purge voter rolls, shut down polling places,
change laws and do everything else they can think of to tilt the next election in their favor.

Democratic congressman Adam Schiff went on Morning Joe the other day to say "there's a growing
level of support amongst the Democratic caucus that our investigations may lead to impeachment".
So, the house is being burnt down by a gang of pyromaniacs and they are debating whether
or not to put some water in their squirt gun.

This is the party that's supposed to be our champion in the arena against the bad guys?

We are in BIG trouble.



http://www.7532020.com/

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:33 AM

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ra
cist-tweets-aoc-ilhan-omar-baltimore-al-sharpton-jamestown-a9027306.html


Donald Trump has claimed he is the “least racist person in the world” despite his recent comments attacking politicians of colour and civil rights figures.

The president – who made the remarks on Tuesday as he departed to attend an event marking the 400th anniversary of the first legislative assembly in Virginia – has faced criticism from Democrats for racist attacks, including tweets hitting out at four politicians of colour in the House of Representatives known as “the squad”.

Since those initial attacks – telling Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib to “go back” to where they came from

I'm old enough to remember white democratic union workers shouting 'America, love it or leave it!!', as is President Trump. There's nothing racist about that.
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– Mr Trump has lashed out at civil rights leader and congressman Elijah Cummings over the state of his district, which includes the city of Baltimore. Mr Trump said that Mr Cummings’ Baltimore district – which is predominantly black – is “rat infested”.
What if it's true?
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Most recently, Mr Trump attacked Reverend Al Sharpton after the civil rights leader posted a photo of himself heading to Baltimore. The president called him a “con man, a troublemaker, always looking for a score ... Hates Whites & Cops!”
Obviously he doesn't like Sharpton.
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Having travelled to Jamestown, Virginia, Mr Trump delivered remarks to mark the First Representative Legislative Assembly, also known as the House of Burgesses, that took place in 1619. That legislative body was the first assembly by English settlers in the new world.

During his speech, Mr Trump remarked on the horrors of slavery. “We remember every sacred soul who suffered the horrors of slavery, and the anguish of bondage,” Mr Trump said. He also honoured African-American contributions to US history and quoted the late civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.

However, Virginia’s black state legislators boycotted Mr Trump’s appearance.

Wouldn't that make them racist?
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A statement from the Virginia Legislative Black Caucus said it was “impossible to ignore the emblem of hate and disdain that the president represents” while he continues to “promulgate policies that harm marginalised communities and use racist and xenophobic rhetoric”.
These are claims - not evidence.

Here's an exercise in what constitutes a claim:
I AM GOD. And you have damned yourself to hell unless you change.
Quote:

The legislators took part in another ceremony about 96 km (60 miles) away in Richmond, marking the 1619 arrival of the first enslaved Africans into Virginia. Mr Trump said the legislators are going “against their own people”.
Whom THEY claim as 'their own', to be exact.
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He also claimed that African Americans “love the job” he is doing and are “happy as hell” with his recent attacks on Baltimore and Mr Cummings. “The African American people have been calling the White House. They have never been so happy as what a president has done,” Mr Trump said.
Hyperbole? Sure. Racist? No.
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Mr Trump’s Jamestown speech was also interrupted by Democrat Virginia delegate Ibraheem

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 1:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

He's f*ckin' with you. Damn. There's 4 people on this forum that have absolutely no sense of humor.



Wishy just claimed that she was joking around about something the other day too.

It's not a sense of humor problem, Captain.

The problem is that when they're "joking" it sounds exactly the same as when they're being serious.

Unless you're proposing that every single thing that JO and Wishy have posted in the last 3 years were a joke.


Did you actually read JO's front page for his campaign website in the last week? If he's joking here, than he's also turned his campaign website into a joke as well.


At the very top of his campaign homepage:

Quote:

We're in big trouble.

If it looks like Trump will lose the 2020 election, there will be no election.
His puppet master, Vladimir Putin, will prevent it one way or another,
with the eager cooperation of the Republican party.



It continues...

Quote:

The Democratic leaders in Congress are playing by the rules of a game that was swiped off the
table in 2016, thinking it is Politics as Usual - Dem v Rep, when in reality the game is
WAR - Putin v Uncle Sam. So, every move they make is worthless and foolish.

Even if they wake up and start fighting today, it's too late. If they'd started impeachment proceedings
on the 1st day they took control of Congress and fought like rabid wolverines to bring down Trump,
Mitch McConnell and everybody else involved in the TrumPutin Conspiracy and following cover up,
we may have had a chance.

Instead, they sat and continue to sit by while Trump and McConnell charge full speed ahead to place
lackeys in key positions, hollow out our agencies and pack the courts with activist 'conservative'
judges. Republicans across the country gerrymander, purge voter rolls, shut down polling places,
change laws and do everything else they can think of to tilt the next election in their favor.

Democratic congressman Adam Schiff went on Morning Joe the other day to say "there's a growing
level of support amongst the Democratic caucus that our investigations may lead to impeachment".
So, the house is being burnt down by a gang of pyromaniacs and they are debating whether
or not to put some water in their squirt gun.

This is the party that's supposed to be our champion in the arena against the bad guys?

We are in BIG trouble.



http://www.7532020.com/

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Yep, read almost all of Jo's stuff, and Wishy's too. You gotta realize it's just a stupid forum. I know you know and I know it's hard to tell, but just keep it in mind next time. Hyperbole - people say a lot of sh*t for effect, and a lot of Jo's stuff, while based on his truth beliefs, seems to have a lot of humor attached as well (black as it might be).

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 2:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Where's the EVIDENCE?

1kiki, I look forward to you shooting down every single instance of Trumpian racism by claiming it is the opposite. Doing that should keep you busy for a minute, but if you want more examples to shoot down of Trump's racism, then google evidence that trump is racist.

Donald Trump’s Racism: The Definitive List, Updated
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.
html


Racial views of Donald Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019
www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

Trump and racism: What do the data say?
www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-
data-say
/

Trump's No Racist, Just a Guy Who Keeps Saying Racist Things
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/trumps-no-racist-just-a-guy-who
-keeps-saying-racist-things.html

Republicans Baffled Why Trump Keeps Saying Racist Things

In 2015, Lindsey Graham called Donald Trump “a race-baiting, xenophobic religious bigot.” In the intervening years, Trump has done nothing to refute this characterization, yet Graham has refashioned himself as Trump’s favorite senatorial pet. In the wake of Trump’s latest racist tirade, Graham appeared on Fox & Friends to deliver a supportive pep talk to the president. “We all know that AOC and this crowd are a bunch of communists,” he ranted, in a performance so obsequious that a delighted Trump tweeted out quotations of it in four parts.

The most revealing line in Graham’s commentary, surrounded by repeated smears of Trump’s targets, was his brief exhortation of the president to slightly alter his rhetoric. “Aim higher! We don’t need to know anything about them personally, talk about their policies,” he urged, like a dad motivating his son to go out there and be the best darn racist demagogue he can be.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, August 31, 2019 5:08 PM

The Woodstock Generation was a Letdown

It’s hard not to think about how little Woodstock really accomplished. A new, relentlessly self-mythologizing documentary about the festival that opened in theaters earlier this summer calls Woodstock, in its title, “Three Days That Defined a Generation.” Indeed, in the years following the festival, the notion of the “Woodstock Generation” as a moniker for the people born between 1946 and 1964 became commonplace.

But the grandiose Woodstock ideals hardly seem to have defined the Woodstock Generation — if a generation can be defined, anyway. It’s dangerous to generalize, but based on simple data, it’s difficult to imagine characterizing that same group of Americans, on the whole, as peace-loving, antiwar communitarians, filled with hope for the future, espousing the simple joys of direct activism coupled with a modest, non-acquisitive life.

The intervening decades brought quite the opposite, with the Woodstock Generation growing likely to favor protecting gun rights, fighting in wars you may believe to be morally wrong, strong border security, and racial homogeneity, while harboring doubts about climate change. And the shift culminated in the age of Donald Trump — who was 23 when Woodstock was happening but wouldn’t have been caught within 100 miles of Bethel, New York, that weekend. (Queens is just over 110 miles from Bethel.)

Every generation has its strong points and blind spots; I’m not suggesting that boomers are uniquely worse or better than other generations or, to be honest, unique at all. But watching Woodstock in 2019 certainly gives me pause, thinking about how everyone onscreen is now either 50 years older or dead and American life doesn’t seem to have gotten more peaceful or more joyful. The film only makes it clear that the event didn’t “prove” anything. Yes, Baez’s designation of Woodstock as a “joy festival” was something to remember. But from where we stand today, that joy was short-lived — a blip, rather than a trendline.

Interestingly, it’s Baez, in a recent New York Times interview, whose look back at Woodstock seems the most clear-eyed to me. She insisted to the interviewer that whatever else it was, Woodstock was no revolution. “Nobody was really thinking about the serious issues,” she said, noting that “a revolution, I would think, involves taking risks and going to jail and all that stuff that happened in the Civil Rights movement and the draft resistance.”

More at www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/13/20758555/woodstock-50-anniversary-
summer-of-love-documentary-generation


The Woodstock Generation Elected Donald Trump
www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2016/11/10/the-demographic-blowback-
that-elected-donald-trump
/

Baby Boomers: The Gloomiest Generation
www.pewsocialtrends.org/2008/06/25/baby-boomers-the-gloomiest-generati
on
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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