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Tuesday, August 20, 2019 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Okay, so humor me because I haven't been participating in this thread, but tell me: What "racist attacks" has Trump been participating in?



Must be a slow day at the Sniglets household.

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Tuesday, August 20, 2019 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Okay, so humor me because I haven't been participating in this thread, but tell me: What "racist attacks" has Trump been participating in?



Must be a slow day at the Sniglets household.

So, you got nothing.


NEXT ...?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Wednesday, August 21, 2019 1:00 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Okay, so humor me because I haven't been participating in this thread, but tell me: What "racist attacks" has Trump been participating in?



Must be a slow day at the Sniglets household.

So, you got nothing.


NEXT ...?




No really - we posted a link (maybe even the bulk of the article) that had reference's to instances of Trump's racism. I believe you even posted in that thread....? So yeah, must be a slow day at your ranch to want to repeat things.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2019 1:41 AM

It didn't have instances of Trump's racism because there are no instances of Trump's racism on display.

Muppet.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 21, 2019 5:23 AM

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Okay, so humor me because I haven't been participating in this thread, but tell me: What "racist attacks" has Trump been participating in? - SIGNY

Must be a slow day at the Sniglets household.- CC

So, you got nothing.
NEXT ...? -

No really - we posted a link (maybe even the bulk of the article) that had reference's to instances of Trump's racism. I believe you even posted in that thread....? So yeah, must be a slow day at your ranch to want to repeat things.- CC



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:49 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It didn't have instances of Trump's racism because there are no instances of Trump's racism on display.

Muppet.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Is it Racism? Or is Trump out of his tiny mind? You decide:

Trump postpones Denmark trip after prime minister declines to sell him Greenland

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-postpones-denmark-trip-after-pri
me-minister-declines-to-sell-him-greenland/2019/08/20/ef900924-c3a8-11e9-9986-1fb3e4397be4_story.html


President Trump on Tuesday abruptly called off a trip to Denmark, announcing in a tweet that he was postponing the visit because the country’s leader was not interested in selling him Greenland.

The move comes two days after Trump told reporters that owning Greenland “would be nice” for the United States from a strategic perspective.

Greenland is a self-governing country that is part of the kingdom of Denmark.

In his tweet, Trump said that while Denmark is “a very special country with incredible people,” he is postponing his scheduled meeting with Denmark’s Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen based on her statement “that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland.”

“The Prime Minister was able to save a great deal of expense and effort for both the United States and Denmark by being so direct,” Trump added. “I thank her for that and look forward to rescheduling sometime in the future!” (Presumably when Denmark feels like selling Greenland. But who knows with Trump what he meant?)

He said Sunday that his visit was not related to his interest in Greenland.

“Not for this reason at all,” he said.

But his Tuesday night tweets made clear that the central purpose of his trip had in fact been discussion of a U.S. purchase of the massive, glaciered island.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, August 23, 2019 5:12 PM

Almost four decades ago then-candidate George H.W. Bush used the phrase “voodoo economic policy” to describe Ronald Reagan’s claim that cutting taxes for the rich would pay for itself. He was more prescient than he could have imagined.

For voodoo economics isn’t just a doctrine based on magical thinking. It’s the ultimate policy zombie, a belief that seemingly can’t be killed by evidence. It has failed every time its proponents have tried to put it into practice, but it just keeps shambling along. In fact, at this point it has eaten the brains of every significant figure in the Republican Party. Even Susan Collins, the least right-wing G.O.P. senator (although that isn’t saying much), insisted that the 2017 tax cut would actually reduce the deficit.

During the 2016 campaign Donald Trump pretended to be different, claiming that he would actually raise taxes on the rich. Once in office, however, he immediately went full voodoo. In fact, he has taken magical thinking to a new level.

True, whenever tax cuts fail to produce the predicted miracle, their defenders come up with bizarre explanations for their failure.

My favorite until now came from Art Laffer, the original voodoo economist and recent recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Why did George W. Bush’s tax-cutting presidency end not with a boom, but with the worst economic slump since the Great Depression? According to Laffer, blame rests with Barack Obama, even though the recession began more than a year before Obama took office. You see, according to Laffer, everyone lost confidence upon realizing that Obama might win the 2008 election.

But Trump has gone one better. As it has become increasingly clear that the results of his tax cut were disappointing — recent data revisions have marked down estimates of both G.D.P. and employment growth, to the point where it’s hard to see more than a brief sugar high from $2 trillion in borrowing — Trump has invented ever more creative ways to blame other people. In particular, he’s now claiming that the promised boom hasn’t arrived because his opponents are hexing the economy with bad thoughts: “The Democrats are trying to ‘will’ the Economy to be bad for purposes of the 2020 Election.”

More about why Trump is not getting the results he wants at www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/opinion/trump-payroll-tax-cut.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, August 23, 2019 6:06 PM

An irony of Trump's presidency is that he's become a catalyst for progressive change

Some Democratic voters are looking for a candidate who can restore the optimism of the Obama era.

But what if the progressive champion they're looking for is already sitting in the White House?

Call it the audacity of President Trump: He is bringing more hope and change than Obama ever could.

I know, I know. For some people, this is blasphemy. Yet one of the biggest ironies of Trump's presidency is that he has become a more effective catalyst for progressive social change than Obama.

Trump has discredited core conservative beliefs, boosted the popularity of left-wing causes and caused millions of Americans to face ugly truths about racism and bigotry that they used to deny.

I never thought I'd say this. Maybe the deep, systemic changes that so many yearn for couldn't come through Obama's temperate, "No Drama Obama" approach. Maybe real change only comes through chaos and crisis -- Trump's leadership style.

Trump is, in some ways, unintentionally doing what Obama was supposed to do.

You can already see this in several areas. He did this first as a candidate when he repudiated some of the core beliefs of Reaganomics. He said he would never cut Social Security "like every other Republican," and vowed to raise taxes on wealthy people, like hedge fund managers. And he won with overwhelming Republican support, including moderates.

Trump's successful campaign showed that even conservative voters wanted to raise taxes on the wealthy and cherished their big government spending programs.

Then he did something else that Obama couldn't do: He made Obamacare popular.

During his first year in office, Trump led a yearlong quest to replace Obamacare. It failed because of an unexpected backlash. People started cherishing their big government health program once Trump threatened to take it away.

Now a new generation of Democratic leaders is walking a path that Trump, in an odd way, helped clear. They are talking about raising taxes on the wealthy, expanding government programs like Medicare and Medicaid and creating a "Green New Deal."

The public seems ready to follow. Public support for left-wing policy-making has reached a 60-year high.

Trump has pushed voting blocs into the arms of Democrats. His immigration policies ensure that Latinos, the nation's second-largest ethnic group, now lean decisively toward the Democratic party. His attempt to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census also appears to be turning Asian Americans into reliable Democratic voters.

Trump also helped do something else that Obama couldn't. He revived the Obama Coalition, the group of young voters, women and racial minorities that first put Obama in office.

That coalition sat out the 2010 and 2014 midterms, leading to huge losses for the Democrats. They showed up, however, to oppose Trump and Republicans during the 2018 midterms. That election featured the highest voter turnout in a century, with young people voting in record numbers. Voter turnout in 2020 is expected to reach its highest level in decades -- some say since 1908.

More at www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/us/trump-obama-change-blake/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, August 23, 2019 6:19 PM

lol. Nice article, CNN.

Looks like I might have been right. Again.


From the OP of my post about The Atlantic article, just 2 days ago:

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I'm wondering if we might see a trend of lefty news articles doing an about face on Trump, even going so far as to somewhat support him albeit with a very Trump-negative tone like there is in this article. They need to be subtle about it. They need to retain their viewership, but they know they need another four years of Trump.

They would actually have to, yanno, do some work if he loses.

Captain knows exactly what I'm talking about here, being the guy that puts money and ad revenue as the justification why censorship is happening left and right and why it's okay. Why stop there, bud? Why don't we see if I'm right and you start seeing your beloved MSM favorites start turning coat on you in the name of God Money too, shall we?

And there's layoffs left and right as it is. You're going to see most of the Voxes and the MotherJoneses completely closing up shop after 2020 if Democrats win. They'll be left without any fuel for their Pretty Hate Machine they just love firing up every day.



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Sunday, August 25, 2019 4:37 PM

President Trump has exposed a myth in American politics. That myth? That Republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility. The deficit will reach $960 billion for the 2019 fiscal year, which ends on September 30.

Acting Chief of Staff and Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney, who was once known as a fiscal hawk, has admitted the Trump administration is "spending a bunch of money on stuff we're not supposed to."

President Trump isn't the first Republican to break the mold -- he is just one of a long line of Republican presidents since Ronald Reagan who have pushed for supply side tax policies, touting the idea that lower tax rates will boost economic growth. Throw in high rates of defense spending on top of that, and the delicate balance between taxes and spending is often thrown off kilter.

The only exception was President George H.W. Bush who spent an enormous amount of political capital to push for a deficit reduction package in 1990, which cost him much support among conservative Republicans.

There is a long record of Democratic presidents who have grappled with reducing the deficit.

President Jimmy Carter set the tone in the late 1970s by insisting on limited spending. President Bill Clinton left office with a huge federal surplus (which President Bush ate up through his 2001 tax cuts, eventually ending his second term with the deficit at over a trillion dollars) and President Barack Obama helped reduce the deficit from $1.4 trillion in 2009 to $485 billion in 2014, ending at $587 billion in 2016.

Democrats have a greater incentive than Republicans to balance the budget -- doing so allows them to introduce new social programs. Republicans have been comfortable creating massive deficits so to "starve the beast" of government, as Ronald Reagan's Budget Director David Stockman once said.

But the myth that Republicans care about deficits persists despite the historical record. Perhaps President Trump's clear record of profligacy will expose the myth once and for all and remind voters that the Republican rhetoric on fiscal responsibility is all talk.

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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