North Korea
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And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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U.S. President Donald Trump proposed a weekend meeting with Kim Jong Un at the demilitarized zone (DMZ) between North and South Korea on Saturday.
“If Chairman Kim of North Korea sees this, I would meet him at the Border/DMZ just to shake his hand and say Hello(?)!” Trump said, later telling reporters his offer was a spur-of-the-moment idea: “I just thought of it this morning.”
“If he’s there, we’ll see each other for two minutes, that’s all we can, but that will be fine,” he said, adding he and Kim “get along very well”.
Later, Trump told a news conference, “We may be meeting with Chairman Kim ... Kim Jong Un was very receptive.”
He added, “We won’t call it a summit. We’ll call it a handshake,” and said he would be very comfortable stepping over the border into North Korea if he met Kim at the DMZ.
“We’re working things out right now,” Trump said after his arrival in Seoul, when asked whether there will be a three-way meeting with Kim and South Korean President Moon Jae-in on Sunday. “We’re going to see.”
www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-trump/trump-offers-north-kor
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Fareed Zakaria believes President Donald Trump is eager to make a deal with North Korea because the President "has decided that this is his path to a Nobel Peace Prize." The prize that Obama got and Trump has not.
www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/29/fareed-zakaria-trump-north-kore
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I happened to wake up at 2:30 am last night, turned on the tv, and WHOA! There's Trump at the DMZ, walking across the border into N. Korea with Kim at his side. Then they turned around and Kim walked into S. Korea. Surrounded by a sea of anxious security guards from 3 countries, and a jostling flock of crazed reporters and photographers, the "historic moment" was quite a spectacle. All that was missing was Elton John singing Candles In The Wind.
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Quote:White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham roughed up by North Korean security guards
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I happened to wake up at 2:30 am last night, turned on the tv, and WHOA! There's Trump at the DMZ, walking across the border into N. Korea with Kim at his side. Then they turned around and Kim walked into S. Korea. Surrounded by a sea of anxious security guards from 3 countries, and a jostling flock of crazed reporters and photographers, the "historic moment" was quite a spectacle. All that was missing was Elton John singing Candles In The Wind.
Stephanie Grisham replaced Sarah Sanders as White House press secretary only recently, but Grisham reportedly has already been injured on the job.
Grisham suffered bruises. It was not immediately clear if Grisham required medical attention or if anyone else was injured or detained by the guards.
Source called it “an all out brawl.”
www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-press-secretary-stephanie-grisham
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A SURREAL, CHAOTIC DMZ SCENE via live TV feed: AP photog Susie Walsh yelling for Asian press to get out of historic shot, Tucker Carlson calmly videotaping, WH wrangler Hannah Salem running around, Kim Jong-un cracking up, Trump trying to look dignified, relieved Kim didn’t stand him up.
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1145234370782883840
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I didn't realize anyone got hurt there, but I'm not at all surprised due to the raucous chaos I saw on tv. There was no guarantee that Kim would even show up, since Trump only asked him the day before. Definitely a lucky break for Trump that Kim came. I guess there were no afternoon executions on Kim's schedule.
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Kim Jong Un's new nuclear-missile submarine reveals it's bound for a suicide mission
www.businessinsider.com/kim-jong-uns-new-nuclear-missile-submarine-bui
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Kim hasn't been pictured inspecting weapons capable of carrying nuclear warheads since the thaw in tensions between Washington and Pyongyang, but on Monday, it appears to have lost its patience with now stalled peace talks.
North Korea has long sought a submarine that can fire ballistic missiles but struggled to create one while under international sanctions. Ballistic-missile submarines give countries like the US and Russia an incomparable deterrent.
Even if an adversary state somehow found every single nuclear weapon North Korea possesses and destroyed them before a single shot could be fired in return, a submarine could lurk under the surface to deal a final retaliation blow.
North Korea has tested several missiles designed to fire from submarines.
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Yanno, if I were president I'd do a few things differently.
1) I'd disavow our 'first strike' stance, by which we reserve for ourselves the use of nuclear missiles BEFORE anyone else has used them first. That's been our policy ever since we developed nuclear weapons, and it's beyond stupid. That policy has been the excuse many formerly non-nuclear nations have used to develop nuclear weapons of their own. I'm not naive enough to think abandoning the policy would lead any nation with nuclear ambitions - like NK - to give up their plans. But it doesn't change anything about our nuclear capabilities, and it removes handy cover from those countries.
2) I'd make it very clear that any nuclear strike on the US would risk the very existence of the attacking country. Now, this is contrary to international law, which requires proportionate response against military targets only. OTOH it's the very basis of M.A.D.
3) I'd completely disavow the neo-CON/ neo-'liberal' 'limited strike' fantasy.
4) When it comes to particular countries:
I'd work out a deal with Russia (the only other country to date capable of destroying the entire planet on its own) regarding first-strikes on our mutual allies. We will not tolerate them, nor will we deliver them. It would be foolish to set us on a path of complete planetary destruction over small territories. Nobody should enter that arena. But if someone does attack an ally, we WILL respond as if we were attacked.
I'd reenter the nuclear treaty with Iran.
5) I'd up our submarine detection capabilities so we know where all the subs are within striking range of the US, and can detect the different technologies of the different countries, so we know who they belong to.
6) I'd set up a dead-man system of retaliation.
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Quote:‘No First Use’ and Nuclear Weapons
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yanno, if I were president I'd do a few things differently.
1) I'd disavow our 'first strike' stance, by which we reserve for ourselves the use of nuclear missiles BEFORE anyone else has used them first. That's been our policy ever since we developed nuclear weapons, and it's beyond stupid. That policy has been the excuse many formerly non-nuclear nations have used to develop nuclear weapons of their own. I'm not naive enough to think abandoning the policy would lead any nation with nuclear ambitions - like NK - to give up their plans. But it doesn't change anything about our nuclear capabilities, and it removes handy cover from those countries.
www.cfr.org/backgrounder/no-first-use-and-nuclear-weapons
The United States has considered but has never declared a No-First-Use (NFU) nuclear policy and remains the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons in war—twice against Japan, in 1945. The Trump administration’s 2018 Nuclear Posture Review expands the range of significant nonnuclear strategic scenarios in which the United States may contemplate nuclear weapons use. Notably, it does not rule out the first use of nuclear weapons in response to cyberattacks. The 2010 Nuclear Posture Review, under the administration of President Barack Obama, reiterated an assurance in place since 1978 that the United States would not use nuclear weapons against compliant members of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). North Korea is not a compliant member.
More at www.cfr.org/backgrounder/no-first-use-and-nuclear-weapons
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"The Trump administration’s 2018 Nuclear Posture Review expands the range of significant nonnuclear strategic scenarios in which the United States may contemplate nuclear weapons use."
Something I'll be considering in the next election. My other priority is global warming.
But if democrats once again fail to offer an alternative on either or both of these issues, I'll be once again voting 'none of the above'.
Or, as I have opined on many occasions: And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Quote:1kiki, you wrote: "if democrats fail . . . I'll be once again voting 'none of the above' ."
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"The Trump administration’s 2018 Nuclear Posture Review expands the range of significant nonnuclear strategic scenarios in which the United States may contemplate nuclear weapons use."
Something I'll be considering in the next election. My other priority is global warming.
But if democrats once again fail to offer an alternative on either or both of these issues, I'll be once again voting 'none of the above'.
Or, as I have opined on many occasions: And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
Voting for neither Democrat nor Republican would place you in the same group as 7.5 billion humans in the world who also don't vote for either Democrat or Republican. Those 7.5 billion ineffectual people are either too young to vote or not registered to vote in the U.S.A. or didn't vote or voted for a third party. That 7.5 billion have got no vote on who will be President.
Quote:Worst idea, ever. To see how that dead-man system could malfunction, you should watch Dr Strangelove or The Terminator movies. I will spoil the movie endings: Most of humanity dies in a nuclear war. That's fiction, but if a real dead-man system was actually built, fiction would become reality and we all die, accidentally, in a worldwide suicide machine.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
6) I'd set up a dead-man system of retaliation.
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