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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:45 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

No. It's not.

You self important nitwit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, fuck you and your Trump. And please vote for him again. I hope I can depend on you to do the stupidest thing that will put more money in my bank.

Trump tried but failed to actually obstruct justice because other officials ignored him or his aides outright refused to follow his orders. This isn’t an exoneration of the president; Mueller is suggesting Trump had criminal intent but was too incompetent to act on it:

a. Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations. The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony. Viewing the acts collectively can help to illuminate their significance. For example, the President’s direction to McGahn to have the Special Counsel removed was followed almost immediately by his direction to Lewandowski to tell the Attorney General to limit the scope of the Russia investigation to prospective election-interference only—a temporal connection that suggests that both acts were taken with a related purpose with respect to the investigation.

The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests. Comey did not end the investigation of Flynn, which ultimately resulted in Flynn’s prosecution and conviction for lying to the FBI. McGahn did not tell the Acting Attorney General that the Special Counsel must be removed, but was instead prepared to resign over the President’s order. Lewandowski and Dearborn did not deliver the President’s message to Sessions that he should confine the Russia investigation to future election meddling only. And McGahn refused to recede from his recollections about events surrounding the President’s direction to have the Special Counsel removed, despite the President’s multiple demands that he do so. Consistent with that pattern, the evidence we obtained would not support potential obstruction charges against the President’s aides and associates beyond those already filed.

From Page 157

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:48 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

No. It's not.

You self important nitwit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, fuck you and your Trump. And please vote for him again. I hope I can depend on you to do the stupidest thing that will put more money in my bank.




LOL. No worries, mate. With the crap candidates the Democrats have so far, I fully intend to.

Not that it means anything. Trump's going to win Indiana in a landslide with or without my vote.

Maybe I'll write in JO instead.



Why don't you take some of that ill-earned money and do some good with it? I know I'm wasting my breath asking this question for the 100th time, but you never answer it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:50 PM

BTW everybody. That's twice in one day that I got Second to drop an F Bomb my way.

Be careful. If you don't treat him with kid gloves today, he might have a stroke.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 19, 2019 9:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
BTW everybody. That's twice in one day that I got Second to drop an F Bomb my way.

Be careful. If you don't treat him with kid gloves today, he might have a stroke.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, saying "fuck you" is the closest the internet allows to zapping 6ix with an electric cattle prod. It is the bull that feels the prod. Me, with the prod, does not feel a thing and my blood pressure stays the same. It is completely unsurprising that you don't understand that dynamic, 6ix. There are very few of the bigger things in life you (and Trump voters I know) don't get the cause-and-effect backwards or upside down, which causes them easily avoidable suffering, which in turn caused them to vote for Trump.

Mueller laid out significant evidence to support the conclusion that President Donald Trump committed obstruction of justice. Yet the special counsel stated that no matter what evidence he found, he wouldn’t directly say that Trump had committed a crime.

That decision, which was not required by law or by the regulation guiding the special counsel’s office, opened the door for Attorney General William Barr to say that he had determined there wasn’t enough evidence to charge Trump.

That in turn effectively killed the political possibility of impeachment, as indicated by the No. 2 Democrat in the House, Steny Hoyer, saying Thursday that impeachment isn’t “worthwhile.”

More at www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-04-19/mueller-report-pulls-pun
ches-on-if-trump-obstructed-justice-why


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 19, 2019 9:39 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Do you really think of Trump as somebody who would commit Treason to keep a pee tape from coming out?




Um, YEAH.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6938423/Russian-businessman-s
ays-told-Michael-Cohen-compromising-tapes-Trump.html



Russian businessman says he told Michael Cohen about ‘compromising tapes’ of Trump during Miss Universe in Moscow, Mueller report reveals – and didn't tell attorney they were fake

'I stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there's anything else,' wrote Giorgi Rtskhiladze (R),

The email said the tapes were held by Crocus Group, which is headed by Azerbaijan-born real estate magnate Aras Agalaro

It adds that 'Rtskhiladze said he was told the tapes were fake, but he did not communicate that to Cohen.'



Whether they are fake or not isn't the issue, it's whether or not Trump believed they were real that is. If he believed they were real he's done some pretty messed up shit or he's been so incapacitated he can't recall.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 9:49 PM

Mueller did his best to protect the FBI, and he did everything he could to torpedo President Trump, but the best he could manage was to create a political moment and punt to the House.

There are so many things NOT in the Mueller report, absence of which is designed to steer the discusison away from FBI malfeasance or incompetence

It didn't mention the fact that the DNC computer was never examined by the FBI
It didn't say anything about Fusion GPS
Nothing about the source of the leaks or the illegal unmasking
It said nothing about the source of the FISA warrant
They never interviewed Julian Assange, Craig Murray, or anyone who might have had direct knowledge of where the emails came from

It's a pretty thorough job of butt-covering, and I hope that the investigators get thoroughly investigated.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 9:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Do you really think of Trump as somebody who would commit Treason to keep a pee tape from coming out?




Um, YEAH.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6938423/Russian-businessman-s
ays-told-Michael-Cohen-compromising-tapes-Trump.html



Russian businessman says he told Michael Cohen about ‘compromising tapes’ of Trump during Miss Universe in Moscow, Mueller report reveals – and didn't tell attorney they were fake

'I stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there's anything else,' wrote Giorgi Rtskhiladze (R),

The email said the tapes were held by Crocus Group, which is headed by Azerbaijan-born real estate magnate Aras Agalaro

It adds that 'Rtskhiladze said he was told the tapes were fake, but he did not communicate that to Cohen.'



Whether they are fake or not isn't the issue, it's whether or not Trump believed they were real that is. If he believed they were real he's done some pretty messed up shit or he's been so incapacitated he can't recall.




Show me a rich politician and I'll show you somebody who's least embarrassing sexual endeavor was being peed on.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 19, 2019 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
BTW everybody. That's twice in one day that I got Second to drop an F Bomb my way.

Be careful. If you don't treat him with kid gloves today, he might have a stroke.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, saying "fuck you" is the closest the internet allows to zapping 6ix with an electric cattle prod. It is the bull that feels the prod. Me, with the prod, does not feel a thing and my blood pressure stays the same. It is completely unsurprising that you don't understand that dynamic, 6ix. There are very few of the bigger things in life you (and Trump voters I know) don't get the cause-and-effect backwards or upside down, which causes them easily avoidable suffering, which in turn caused them to vote for Trump.



LOL.... Don't taze me bro!

Clown.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 19, 2019 10:06 PM

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Do you really think of Trump as somebody who would commit Treason to keep a pee tape from coming out? - SIX

Um, YEAH.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6938423/Russian-businessman-s
ays-told-Michael-Cohen-compromising-tapes-Trump.html



Russian businessman says he told Michael Cohen about ‘compromising tapes’ of Trump during Miss Universe in Moscow, Mueller report reveals – and didn't tell attorney they were fake

'I stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there's anything else,' wrote Giorgi Rtskhiladze (R),

The email said the tapes were held by Crocus Group, which is headed by Azerbaijan-born real estate magnate Aras Agalaro

It adds that 'Rtskhiladze said he was told the tapes were fake, but he did not communicate that to Cohen.'



Whether they are fake or not isn't the issue, it's whether or not Trump believed they were real that is. If he believed they were real he's done some pretty messed up shit or he's been so incapacitated he can't recall.


The tapes were fake, but even fakes can be politically damaging. I mean, jut look at all of the fake news that's been published at various times ... fake WMD, fake "Assad gassed his own people" fake "Qaddafi is massacring his own people" ... you can propel a lot of people with fakery, and by the time people figure out they've been fooled the damage is already done. I'm sure Trump .. star of his onw "reality" TV show ... knows more about the power of fakery than anyone here.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Friday, April 19, 2019 10:19 PM

The key punch-pulling passage in the Mueller report occurs on page 2 of volume 2, or page 214 of 448, where Mueller says that “we determined not to apply an approach that could potentially result in a judgment that the president committed crimes.”

The sentence is so shocking I had to read it several times. Mueller is saying that his team thought about — and rejected — going through Trump’s conduct using ordinary Justice Department standards to decide if he had violated the law.

That’s more or less what the public thought Mueller was going to do.

Mueller’s stated reason is more shocking still: He wanted to be “fair” to Trump because a president cannot be indicted under Justice Department policy, and without a trial Trump couldn’t “seek to clear his name.”

The president of the United States could, of course, use the news media to defend himself. He could also be impeached by the House and defend himself in the Senate. Mueller’s “fairness” logic is contorted to the point of being almost bizarre.

We may never know for sure what Mueller was thinking when he held back from announcing Trump committed crimes, despite having evidence to support that conclusion. The leading explanation, though, should be the adage ably expressed by Ralph Waldo Emerson, and memorably repeated by Omar on “The Wire”: “You come at the king, you best not miss.”

www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-04-19/mueller-report-pulls-pun
ches-on-if-trump-obstructed-justice-why


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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