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Redacted Mueller report
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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:48 AM
I really want to know what the point of a special investigation is if he couldn't file charges/indict. Why bother with 2 years of angst if all it can be is just a data dump?
Nothing new in the report (so far) for me. Just more of the same, proving what a whack job Dump has been and will always be. He tried to obstruct on so many occasions, so don't say you (Mueller) couldn't tell what his mindset was. My chief hope is this will tarnish him for 2020, but this pos has 90 lives, so who knows. I'm sure he'll spin it like a victory and an ignorant public will believe him.
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Friday, April 19, 2019 9:46 AM
Quote:The Special Counsel was only authorized to continue the investigation started by FBI Director James B. Comey, the same investigation he testified about before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I really want to know what the point of a special investigation is if he couldn't file charges/indict. Why bother with 2 years of angst if all it can be is just a data dump?
Nothing new in the report (so far) for me. Just more of the same, proving what a whack job Dump has been and will always be. He tried to obstruct on so many occasions, so don't say you (Mueller) couldn't tell what his mindset was. My chief hope is this will tarnish him for 2020, but this pos has 90 lives, so who knows. I'm sure he'll spin it like a victory and an ignorant public will believe him.
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.
Mueller didn't have any authority to indict that fat liar Trump. It's left to either the Attorney General or the House of Representatives to kick Trump's ass. If neither will do the kicking, Mueller can't do it for them, but the voters could decide in 2020 to kick Trump's fat ass out of the White House.
www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-M
ueller-special.html
Come to think of it, the best way to get Trump is to show the voters he is a tax cheater. The way Trump is so protective of his returns shows that is where he is weakest. There is an extra bonus: if Trump cheated in the last 6 years, he won't be able to pardon his way out of paying the taxes he owes. Nixon and his Vice President Agnew both cheated on their taxes and they had to pay. President Ford's pardon could not excuse them from paying, although it did keep them out of jail for the crime of tax evasion.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Friday, April 19, 2019 9:50 AM
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Nothing new in the report (so far) for me. Just more of the same, proving what a whack job Dump has been and will always be. He tried to obstruct on so many occasions, so don't say you (Mueller) couldn't tell what his mindset was
Maybe it was all a blackmail to get him to do what "they" wanted him to do??
Maybe all the obstruction was just his way of trying to squirm his way out of whatever he's neck deep in. I still say the "pee tape" exists...or a worse one. Someone somewhere has him under a thumb...
If he didn't do anything he had no reason to obstruct, but he'd obstruct to keep that tape from getting out, sure as shootin'.
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Friday, April 19, 2019 6:36 PM
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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Nothing new in the report (so far) for me. Just more of the same, proving what a whack job Dump has been and will always be. He tried to obstruct on so many occasions, so don't say you (Mueller) couldn't tell what his mindset was
Maybe it was all a blackmail to get him to do what "they" wanted him to do??
Maybe all the obstruction was just his way of trying to squirm his way out of whatever he's neck deep in. I still say the "pee tape" exists...or a worse one. Someone somewhere has him under a thumb...
If he didn't do anything he had no reason to obstruct, but he'd obstruct to keep that tape from getting out, sure as shootin'.
Do you really think of Trump as somebody who would commit Treason to keep a pee tape from coming out?
I don't think of him as much of a religious man. I seriously doubt that he'd be worried what Melania would think, as I'm sure that even if they do manage to "love" each other on some level, she's aware of the business level relationship of their marriage. I think the worst thing that would happen to Trump's marriage if a pee tape came out would be that Melania would make him burn his clothes and take a shower before touching anything in the house whenever he got home.
Nah...
If there was a pee tape out there, Trump would have already uploaded it to PornHub and gave the link out on Twitter.
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Friday, April 19, 2019 6:43 PM
Quote:Repeatedly, it appears Trump may have been saved from more serious legal jeopardy (even treason) because his own staffers refused to carry out orders they thought were problematic or potentially illegal.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do you really think of Trump as somebody who would commit Treason to keep a pee tape from coming out?
The report from special counsel Robert Mueller III lays out in alarming detail abundant evidence against President Donald Trump, finding 10 "episodes" of potential obstruction of justice but ultimately concluding it was not Mueller's role to determine whether the commander in chief broke the law.
The special counsel's report on possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russians to interfere in the 2016 election is extremely detailed with only modest redactions - painting a starkly different picture for Trump than Attorney General William Barr has offered, and revealing new details about interactions between Russians and Trump associates.
Mueller made it clear: Russia wanted to help the Trump campaign, and the Trump campaign was willing to take it.
Mueller's report suggests his obstruction of justice investigation was heavily informed by an opinion from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) that says a sitting president cannot be indicted - a conclusion Mueller's team accepted.
That decision, though, seemed to leave investigators in a strange spot. Mueller's team wrote that they "determined not to apply an approach that could potentially result in a judgment that the President committed crimes." They seemed to shy from producing even an internal document that alleged the president had done something wrong - deciding, essentially, that they wouldn't decide.
More at "Mueller report lays out obstruction evidence against the president"
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Attorney-general-to-provide-over
view-of-Mueller-13777039.php
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Friday, April 19, 2019 6:55 PM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Repeatedly, it appears Trump may have been saved from more serious legal jeopardy (even treason) because his own staffers refused to carry out orders they thought were problematic or potentially illegal.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do you really think of Trump as somebody who would commit Treason to keep a pee tape from coming out?
The report from special counsel Robert Mueller III lays out in alarming detail abundant evidence against President Donald Trump, finding 10 "episodes" of potential obstruction of justice but ultimately concluding it was not Mueller's role to determine whether the commander in chief broke the law.
The special counsel's report on possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russians to interfere in the 2016 election is extremely detailed with only modest redactions - painting a starkly different picture for Trump than Attorney General William Barr has offered, and revealing new details about interactions between Russians and Trump associates.
Mueller made it clear: Russia wanted to help the Trump campaign, and the Trump campaign was willing to take it.
Mueller's report suggests his obstruction of justice investigation was heavily informed by an opinion from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) that says a sitting president cannot be indicted - a conclusion Mueller's team accepted.
That decision, though, seemed to leave investigators in a strange spot. Mueller's team wrote that they "determined not to apply an approach that could potentially result in a judgment that the President committed crimes." They seemed to shy from producing even an internal document that alleged the president had done something wrong - deciding, essentially, that they wouldn't decide.
More at "Mueller report lays out obstruction evidence against the president"
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Attorney-general-to-provide-over
view-of-Mueller-13777039.php
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Proper internet comment etiquette dictates that if you quote nothing more than a single question from a previous commenter, that your reply at least attempts to answer that question, or at least give a personal opinion relating to the question.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:03 PM
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Originally posted by second:
Come to think of it, the best way to get Trump is to show the voters he is a tax cheater. The way Trump is so protective of his returns shows that is where he is weakest. There is an extra bonus: if Trump cheated in the last 6 years, he won't be able to pardon his way out of paying the taxes he owes. Nixon and his Vice President Agnew both cheated on their taxes and they had to pay. President Ford's pardon could not excuse them from paying, although it did keep them out of jail for the crime of tax evasion.
Unfortunately... I can think of a million ways he can spin any tax cheater findings, that would make him even more of a fan to his base. "Don't we hate the IRS?!? *ROAR* "Why are they always trying to take our money??" *ROAR* "Just another witch hunt!" *ROAR*
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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:05 PM
Quote:6ix, fuck you. That is proper, you goddamn jackass.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:24 PM
Quote:Trump is not stupid. If he has to pay his back taxes, it will hurt him. He won't go to jail for tax cheating. Nixon didn't. Vice President Spiro Agnew didn't.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Unfortunately... I can think of a million ways he can spin any tax cheater findings, that would make him even more of a fan to his base. "Don't we hate the IRS?!? *ROAR* "Why are they always trying to take our money??" *ROAR* "Just another witch hunt!" *ROAR*
As for Trump voters voting a second time for Trump: it is to be expected. Stupid people don't learn on the first lesson. Stupid people have many problems in their lives. That's why they voted for Trump as the only guy who can fix their lives. It never occurs to stupid people that their problems grow from their personal shortcomings and bad decisions. Instead, they see vast conspiracies beyond their control, Deep State, 1 Percenters, Satan the Devil, Bankers, Wall Street. Somehow, stupid people never have an explanation for their hardships that requires them to actually do anything to make their lives better. Their lives are never in their own hands. Their lives are in Trump's hands, God's hands, their company's hands, anybody but their own hands.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:32 PM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, fuck you. That is proper, you goddamn jackass.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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No. It's not.
You self important nitwit.
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