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Saturday, March 16, 2019 6:41 AM

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Even as staunch an advocate of presidential authority as William Barr agreed in his confirmation hearings that dangling pardons could be obstruction of justice. “Do you believe a president could lawfully issue a pardon in exchange for the recipient’s promise to not incriminate him?” asked Senator Pat Leahy. “No. That would be a crime,” replied Barr.

Michael Cohen has email showing Trump obstructed Justice by dangling pardon.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/cohen-email-trump-dangled-pardo
n-obstruction-justice-mueller.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I'll ask if you actually read the article beyond the title before I say anything more.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If you want to point out that the email came from a lawyer working for Rudy, who is working for Trump, then claim that means Trump has plausible deniability that Trump personally obstructed justice, please do so. The last President to get close to impeachment, Nixon, had intermediaries between himself and the employees who went to jail. There were Watergate Tapes, but Trump is not recording himself. He learned that lesson from Nixon.
www.history.com/news/watergate-where-are-they-now

"On July 30, under coercion from the Supreme Court, Nixon finally released the Watergate tapes. On August 5, transcripts of the recordings were released, including a segment in which the president was heard instructing Haldeman to order the FBI to halt the Watergate investigation. Three days later, Nixon announced his resignation."
www.history.com/this-day-in-history/nixon-resigns

Now that I think of it, Nixon didn't have to resign. He could have been stubborn, destroyed the tapes, and forced Congress to go through the uncertain legal process of removing him. Without the tapes, the end of his term in office would have arrived before the wheels of justice had finished turning in the Senate, but Nixon exited early so that he could get a pardon and avoid being prosecuted after leaving office.

Trump will be stubborn and create much unnecessary trouble for himself in retirement, unlike Nixon. Trump will be in courtrooms for years after he leaves office. Nixon had a peaceful retirement, avoided all that legal maneuvering, because he was smarter than Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Trump will do just fine in retirement.

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 6:45 PM

See the date in this headline? 2012: Sen. Ted Cruz fined $35,000 by Federal Elections Commission over 2012 loans

www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/Sen-Ted-Cruz-fine
d-35-000-by-Federal-Elections-13692285.php


If it takes 7 years to decide on the correct punishment for Ted Cruz in this trivial matter, it will take 7 years for government to decide Trump's punishment.

The Federal Election Commission this week issued a $35,000 fine to Sen. Ted Cruz for failing to disclose more than $1 million in campaign loans from Citibank and Goldman Sachs.

The commission found that Cruz took out loans from the banks for use in his 2012 Senate campaign but improperly reported them as coming from his “personal funds,” according to the settlement agreement posted online by the Campaign Legal Center.

“As has repeatedly been reported, the loans were public at the time and fully disclosed on Senate ethics disclosures, but they weren’t reported correctly on the FEC forms,” said Cruz campaign spokeswoman Catherine Frazier, referring to a New York Times report from 2016. “This agreed settlement resolves that filing mistake once and for all.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 7:14 PM

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See the date in this headline? 2012: Sen. Ted Cruz fined $35,000 by Federal Elections Commission over 2012 loans

www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/Sen-Ted-Cruz-fine
d-35-000-by-Federal-Elections-13692285.php


If it takes 7 years to decide on the correct punishment for Ted Cruz in this trivial matter, it will take 7 years for government to decide Trump's punishment.

The Federal Election Commission this week issued a $35,000 fine to Sen. Ted Cruz for failing to disclose more than $1 million in campaign loans from Citibank and Goldman Sachs.

The commission found that Cruz took out loans from the banks for use in his 2012 Senate campaign but improperly reported them as coming from his “personal funds,” according to the settlement agreement posted online by the Campaign Legal Center.

“As has repeatedly been reported, the loans were public at the time and fully disclosed on Senate ethics disclosures, but they weren’t reported correctly on the FEC forms,” said Cruz campaign spokeswoman Catherine Frazier, referring to a New York Times report from 2016. “This agreed settlement resolves that filing mistake once and for all.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Yeah. First they had better establish that there was, yanno, an actual crime first.

Then you better hope they don't come after you for being a tax cheat too.

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 7:23 PM

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Trump will do just fine in retirement.

Yes, he will be laundering money: On the Trump-Russia Conspiracy, Follow the Laundered Money

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/03/11/on-the-trump-russia-conspirac
y-follow-the-laundered-money
/

The Reuters report examined Trump-branded buildings in Florida because “determining the ownership of properties is easier there than in some other states.” A report from McClatchy found this:

Buyers connected to Russia or former Soviet republics made 86 all-cash sales — totaling nearly $109 million — at 10 Trump-branded properties in South Florida and New York City, according to a new analysis shared with McClatchy. Many of them made purchases using shell companies designed to obscure their identities.

As with the Reuters report, this analysis would only include those where the buyer was traceable, suggesting that the total is probably incomplete. But it is worth noting that these were “all-cash sales,” which turn illegally earned cash into a legitimate asset for the buyer.

The picture all of this paints is of a U.S. president who is knee-deep in laundered Russian money from a system that Putin and his kleptocratic friends have a strong interest in protecting. Perhaps that is why, as Natasha Bertand explained, Donald Trump seems to be trying to rid the government of experts in Russian money laundering.

More at https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/03/11/on-the-trump-russia-conspirac
y-follow-the-laundered-money
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 7:39 PM



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Saturday, March 16, 2019 8:03 PM

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Whatever . . .

If Trump ever gets caught, you will drop the whatever attitude, jump to Trump's defense, and attack the Democrats. Maybe all three simultaneously. I don't believe Trump benefited you as much as he has me and I don't have to do a damn thing for Trump. I can attack him and yet the benefits designed to enrich Trump keep on flowing to me. It's a great system if you are in the upper 50% of Americans. It's bad for the lower 50%. But how else could it be if you elect billionaires?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 8:20 PM



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Saturday, March 16, 2019 8:47 PM

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Whatever . . .

Trump won overwhelmingly with white shoppers at Dollar stores. They praise Trump, but they are also still shopping at the Dollar store because Trump has kept them in their place, in the bottom 50%, with one psychological benefit: their White Man is now in the White House and maintaining the same old status quo where they stay on the bottom until they die. It is a great country for billionaires! Four more years! Four more years! For Trump!

"What Dollar Stores Tell Us About Electoral Politics"
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/03/09/what-dollar-stores-tell-us-ab
out-electoral-politics
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:50 PM

Under Trump, Witness Protection has been infiltrated by the Russian Mafia
https://thesternfacts.com/under-trump-witness-protection-has-been-infi
ltrated-by-the-russian-mafia-f6e4825f10a5?fbclid=IwAR3y4wYjsyJBSnobGpcKx16rECeuXhyYprA5ObDYcCmQCOEKyA0gAy2EHxQ


Nope, no Russian anything going on here...

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 10:32 PM



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