In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
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UPDATED: Thursday, December 25, 2025 04:27
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I always wondered why Hillary gave me a big case of the willies every time she tried to be charming. Now I know why:
HILLARY CLINTON, WARMONGER
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Quote:There was a whole pile of information that I was waiting for, but I don't see yet.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Those definitions sound more correct. Don't know why that picture shows 125 for the middle pointer.
Most folk are not like you and me, they keep the thermostat much closer to 80. For them the 90 and 100 are fine.
For you, I would say 80 and 90.
Did you time the delay between Command On and blower fan start? This is a real world number, and the rest of this is theoretical troubleshooting.
Think of how much fuel you burned Warming up the furnace and the roof shingles, instead of the house. Most places likely don't care so much, when the furnace is in the basement. But in the attic the heat rises rule didn't help you.
I did a little test this morning before I went to bed and the results weren't good at all. (I didn't think that I just randomly picked numbers...)
I put it at 90 and 120 to start, and the results were not good at all. This might be indicative of other problems with the whole system.
The plenum just isn't hot enough at those numbers. The whole process was longer than usual, and once the temperature got to 72 the blower kept going and I was watching the temp at the thermostat go down to 69 in just a few minutes while it was still on, requiring the next process to start much quicker than it would have.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
If your fan cool down is set at 90 and is still running with output below 70, then one of the fears I had may be true. If somebody twisted that blower fan limit switch instead of moving the pointers, the sensing accuracy may be offset. Visual 90 might be actual 70. Then visual 100 might be actual 80.
I cannot tell you the answers without the information.
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Massive wind storm blew through my corner of British Columbia. Damage done, a pier in a city called White Rock was destroyed. Someone was on that pier and had to be rescued by helicopter before he wound up in the drink.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Hey there 6!
You can pick up CO (carbon monoxide) detectors at your local hardware store for pretty cheap. (Far cheaper than a new furnace.) Here's one example. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Kidde-Plug-In-Carbon-Monoxide-Detector-wit
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I got a few for various relatives' homes for x-mas a few years back because they had gas furnaces. (That's the kind of x-mas gift I tend to give. HO HO HO ...)
When it comes to furnaces ... have you looked into ductless heat pumps? They are super efficient as heaters, and then you reverse them and use them as AC in the summer. Here's one example. https://www.mitsubishicomfort.com/technology
Quote:Hi Jack
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. I thought about that while I was at work tonight. I know I have a CO2 detector somewhere, but for some reason it's not where I installed it in the attic many years ago after I "fixed" the furnace. Who knows? Maybe it actually went off one night and I broke it while I was drinking. I have no other explanation, and I have zero memory of where it could have gone.
It occurs to me that the attic might not be the best place for it anyhow. I can see why I would have thought that was a good idea at the time, but it would probably be better to have it in the living area where the vents are actually putting out the air instead of 3 feet away from the furnace.
Those heaters/coolers look pretty sweet. Any idea how much they run? I'm also curious if I could pick them up and install them myself somehow and save a bundle on labor since it probably shouldn't require all of the code enforcement that traditional furnaces would.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Just a quick fyi about the monitors - I got the kind you just plug into a wall socket in any space you live in. I think one has a fair bit of leeway between when the alarms sounds (at a continuous 50ppm) and when CO reaches a dangerous level (at a continuous 70ppm). Placement doesn't look that critical.
From the Kidde website:
"For example, an alarm will sound after three and a half hours of continuous exposure at a level of 50 PPM, yet will sound after eight minutes of continuous exposure at a level of 400 PPM. Levels of carbon monoxide exposure range from low to dangerous, as described in the following list: Low level: 50 PPM and less."
"Most people will not experience any symptoms from prolonged exposure to CO levels of approximately 1 to 70 ppm but some heart patients might experience an increase in chest pain. As CO levels increase and remain above 70 ppm, symptoms become more noticeable and can include headache, fatigue and nausea."
As for the heater/AC units, I think cost depends on how many units, how big, and how complicated. When I looked at them last, a single unit that would handle a fairly large room was around $800.
Hey sorry, I'm being pestered so I need to go do something. Honest to god I can't get one post out without having to get up at least once.
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I interrupt this thread, which many reasonable folk traffic, to suggest reading my post today in the Dow thread.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I interrupt this thread, which many reasonable folk traffic, to suggest reading my post today in the Dow thread.
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I don't really have much time to reply myself. Probably not for another few days.
All I can say is that there is good news. I got my gas/electric combo bill and it was well under $170 for the month, and it's been warm in my house. I mentioned before I feared it might be as much as $225 and was just hoping it would be under $200.
It's not an efficient system by any stretch, but these are numbers that I can live with. This bill was only about $25 more than last year and the average temp outside this month was 3 degrees cooler than it was at the same time last year.
My bro is here now. My other brother dropped him off the other night and stuck around for a while. They both commented on how it's warmer in my house than it is in his house now.
Until I get a furnace installed in the basement system, I think I'm just going to leave this all as is. I might try some fans for extra airflow, but I don't think I'll be making any other modifications. I honestly never tried having the heat up this high before since I imagined the bills would raise exponentially. Turns out that was all in my head and that it's only going to cost me about a half a night's work per month to keep the temperature comfortable around here. :)
I'll look into a CO2 detection solution to see if I'm poisoning myself too. 
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Fog rolled in this afternoon and still here.
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Quote:Wow, THAT was dramatic!
Originally posted by Brenda:
Massive wind storm blew through my corner of British Columbia. Damage done, a pier in a city called White Rock was destroyed. Someone was on that pier and had to be rescued by helicopter before he wound up in the drink.
We've had high waves here too, 15 ft and more, which is unusual for the So Cal coast. One of the piers at Zuma beach was damaged, since they're not built for waves higher than 15'.
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It's been foggy here too. We had three rainstorms come in a few weeks ago and a great start to the rainy season, but nothing much lately. Long term forecast says maybe rain nine or ten days from now. It'll be interesting to see if my long term guesstimate (near-normal rainfall for the season) turns out to be good... or not!
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Have been TRYING to clear out "stuff" accumulated over twenty-five years living here, and that's in order to repaint a bunch of rooms. It's been slow going as I've been managing our health insurance transitions when hubby retired, plus his required minimum distributions, and all of the usual household stuff. And for some strange reason have been aching in every joint for the past month ... it's like the "aging clock" went on fast-forward and I turned 90 in five weeks.
But so far have managed to pile up a number of things to give away ... hey, does anyone want wire metal shelving? ... plus a bunch of recycling and SOME stuff to throw out. I just keep chipping way at it as time permits. I hope that some day, after "chipping away" at the mess, I'll look up and think Holy shit! This place looks ...better!
So have been managing with all of the aches and pains ... got the tree up, hobble around with the dog in the morning and doing the best I can.
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Been following the deep discussions of heater systems ... I learned a lot, thanks guys!
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BRENDA, I hope you stay warm.
And to my friends here at FFF.net, I wish you a Merry Christmas. I think of you warmly, and wish all the best for you for the coming year.
Here is an image from my hometown to get us all in the Christmas spirit!
MAY YOU ALL BE HAPPY, HEALTHY, AND PROSPEROUS IN THE COMING NEW YEAR.
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