So.... About this "Caravan"
POSTED BY: 6IXSTRINGJACK
UPDATED: Friday, November 8, 2024 16:11
VIEWED: 30674
PAGE 30 of 35
Quote:What would it mean in terms of the real world for me to declare I was non-interventionist? It would be meaningless posturing, unless I was the CEO of United Fruit, or the 21st century equivalent, and I had the power to bring down the government of a banana republic. The last time I was vocally opposed to an intervention, the second Iraq War, I was ignored by most of Congress, both Democrat and Republican. I knew it would end badly. It was very predictable:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND - you rail bitterly and endlessly about your fellow Americans and how easily they're stampeded into stupid wars, and yet you yourself can't even commit to an non-interventionist statement.
Why is that? Are you a hypocrite? Are you afraid of agreeing with me because you might be bullied here? Worried you might get a taste of your own medicine? Do you have snakes in your head, where your thoughts meet each other coming and going?
I mean, seriously, what's the deal?
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/11/the-fifty-first-state/302
612/
But not everything ends badly. Therefore I'm not declaring I am a non-interventionist, except when the President is somebody like Bush II, who had a long history of incompetence as Texas governor or the President is Trump, another long history of incompetence going farther back than Bush's, plus Trump has an extra quantity of personal dishonesty and mental derangement.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
What would it mean in terms of the real world for me to declare I was non-interventionist? - SECOND
About as much as it means to the world that you constantly plaster the board with your hatred of Trump, Texas Republicans, Republicans, and Americans in general. And yet, that hasn't stopped your endless spewage!
So just because it IS so meaningless... why not do it? It means nothing, it has no consequences in the real world, it would put you on the right side of YOUR OWN stated POV ... why all this wiggling?
It looks to me like sheer cowardice, but maybe there's something else at play. Maybe it's just too much like your former religion. Maybe you really WANT illegal immigration. Whatever it is, I just can't find a righteous motive behind your evasion.
-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:What? I have change to please you? I CANNOT DO AS I PLEASE? That sounds very un-American. Are you sure you are not a Russian troll? Can you prove you are a Californian who voted in the most recent election?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
What would it mean in terms of the real world for me to declare I was non-interventionist? - SECOND
About as much as it means to the world that you constantly plaster the board with your hatred of Trump, Texas Republicans, Republicans, and Americans in general. And yet, that hasn't stopped your endless spewage!
So just because it IS so meaningless... why not do it? It means nothing, it has no consequences in the real world, it would put you on the right side of YOUR OWN stated POV ... why all this wiggling?
It looks to me like sheer cowardice, but maybe there's something else at play. Maybe it's just too much like your former religion. Maybe you really WANT illegal immigration. Whatever it is, I just can't find a righteous motive behind your evasion.
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Quote:I got on the phone to talk to some Republicans this morning. None of them could imagine that what Trump did is a crime, which says something is very odd with them:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You constantly plaster the board with your hatred of Trump, Texas Republicans, Republicans, and Americans in general. And yet, that hasn't stopped your endless spewage!
Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former lawyer, said in a television interview Friday that Trump knew it was wrong to make hush-money payments to women who alleged they had affairs with him, directly contradicting claims from the president.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cohen-says-trump-knew-hush-money-payme
nts-were-wrong-contradicting-his-former-boss/ar-BBQWKEp
I've got a late Friday lunch meeting with much drinking and with all Republicans. I don't drink. If any think that what Trump did is a crime, although it most definitely is a crime or else Cohen is voluntarily going to a reduced prison term for no reason, I will let you know. But I predict none can comprehend that a crime was committed by Trump. Their minds just don't work quite right when it comes to legal questions. Or political questions. Or how the Federal Reserve functions. Or a whole ton of other things.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:OMFG, don't be so thin-skinned!
It looks to me like sheer cowardice, but maybe there's something else at play. Maybe it's just too much like your former religion. Maybe you really WANT illegal immigration. Whatever it is, I just can't find a righteous motive behind your evasion.- SIGNY
What? I have change to please you?- SECOND
1) I can't "make" you do anything! All I've done is ask questions to point out your hypocrisy/illogic/cowardice/evasion.
Quote:Within legal limits, yes.
I CANNOT DO AS I PLEASE?
Quote:
That sounds very un-American. Are you sure you are not a Russian troll? -SECOND
2) I've got endless chafing from you and others here for my POV, INCLUDING the libel of being a Russian troll, which you repeat again right here! What, you're going to beat me over the head until I please YOU??? Are you sure YOU'RE American? Can't stand/ don't like free speech? Sounds pretty Russian to me!
Quote:I can prove I'm a Californian. But I'll save that for court.
Can you prove you are a Californian who voted in the most recent election?- SECOND
Of course, NOBODY can "prove" that they voted in any particular election since the vote is supposed to be by "secret ballot" Again, you should know that if you're really an American. So ... can YOU prove that you're a citizen? How do WE know that you're really who you say you are? Because, yanno, a lot of your posts seem very anti-American to me!
-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:To your # 2) I look forward to you to taking me to court and I look forward to Trump shutting down the government to get his Wall to stop Caravans. Either of those happen, I win a bet so don't disappoint me, Signym and Trump. Sue me pretty please with sugar on top! Make this the Best Christmas Ever! But the Grinch may steal Xmas:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
2) I've got endless chafing from you and others here for my POV, INCLUDING the libel of being a Russian troll, which you repeat again right here! What, you're going to beat me over the head until I please YOU??? Are you sure YOU'RE American? Can't stand/ don't like free speech? Sounds pretty Russian to me!
I can prove I'm a Californian. But I'll save that for court.
"Trump considers delaying border wall fight until January"
Updated 12/14/2018 02:13 PM EST
www.politico.com/story/2018/12/14/trump-border-wall-fight-delay-106485
7
(I ought to explain what those bets are about: I bet that Signym and Trump are crazy enough to do what they say they are going to do. I lose if they pretend to be sane.)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
And you pretend to be an American 
-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:I don't believe this is always accurate, in all locales.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I can prove I'm a Californian. But I'll save that for court.
Can you prove you are a Californian who voted in the most recent election?- SECOND
Of course, NOBODY can "prove" that they voted in any particular election since the vote is supposed to be by "secret ballot"
The BALLOT is supposed to be secret, except in CA, FL, Moscow, and other Democrap controlled areas.
But the Record of whether you voted (or were given your ballot at the polling location) at every single Election is available in most places, to the public.
Some Elected Officials are known to encounter folk who say "I voted for you" and then whip out a listing which proves the person never voted in that Election.
I'm not sure if that record keeping has changed.
The records don't say HOW you cast your ballot. But if it was a closed primary, it might include which Party you got a ballot for. And if your ward reported no votes for a candidate, it could indicate you did not vote that way.
I heard that there were entire cities which did not record a single vote for Trump.
How do you think they prove that the same person voted in the same Election in more than one polling place?
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
I wondered about that.
There are voter registration databases, of course. But those don't say whether you voted or not, only that you're registered.
So the VOTING records (poll books or names on mail-in or provisional ballots) are compared to the registration records. In my case, my name was crossed off in a "poll book", and I assume that any provisional or mail-in ballots were compared to the record of my vote to check for duplicates.
But what happens to those records after the votes are certified? I assume that there's some sort of "retention schedule" after which records can be destroyed. I don't know what the CA retention schedule is but ...
Quote:http://www.dailyadvance.com/News/2018/09/27/County-seeks-state-s-help-
Federal election documents don't have to be kept longer than 22 months ...
on-elections-subpoena.html
so I assume that voting records have already been destroyed.
-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
In any case, since we've wandered far away from the topic of the thread ...
I just want to point out, AGAIN, that altho SECOND has made it abundantly clear that he hates Americans and thinks that we're stupid and easily stampeded into foreign interventions, he himself will not support a non-interventionist statement. Then he tried to derail the topic by once again libeling me and demanding my voting record, in order to sneak away undetected.
HEY SECOND! We noticed ya running way from your own point!
*****
You may be interested to know ...
Quote:
ICE Deports 256,000 Aliens in FY18, but 560,000 Fugitives Remain
By Charlotte Cuthbertson
WASHINGTON— Representing a 13 percent increase over last year, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) removed more than 256,000 aliens to their home countries in fiscal 2018, according to a report published on Dec. 14.
MORE AT https://www.theepochtimes.com/ice-deports-256000-aliens-in-fy18-but-56
0000-fugitives-remain_2739642.html
-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Why there is no wall ...
Quote:
"No Wall In Any Form": Govt Shutdown Odds Explode Amid Trump-Schumer Standoff
With a potential government shutdown just days away, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (NY) dug in on Sunday, telling Meet The Press that President Trump is "not going to get the wall in any form."
Last Tuesday Trump, Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) clashed over Trump's $5 billion demand for border wall funding in an awkwardly televised argument in the Oval Office, prompting Schumer to later declare on the Senate Floor: "I want to be crystal clear. There will be no additional appropriations to pay for the border wall. It’s done."
The New York Democrat echoed his comments on Meet The Press Sunday, telling host Chuck Todd that Trump doesn't have the votes in the House or the Senate - saying that the president is having a "temper tantrum" over the wall.
"They do not have the votes to pass the president’s proposal — $5 billion or whatever it is for the wall," said Pelosi at a recent news conference. "So … if nothing is going to change in that regard, I don’t know why we just don’t proceed to keep government open so that people can be home for the holidays."
Meanwhile, the odds of a shutdown spiked to 58% on PredictIt, nearly double what it was 24 hours ago.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-16/no-wall-any-form-govt-shutdo
wn-odds-explode-amid-trump-schumer-standoff
-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME