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Friday, December 7, 2018 4:53 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Why is it not a high priority of his enforcement efforts?


Uh puhleez!

Can you say "sanctuary state"?
"Blue state"?

Sure you can!

California doesn't WANT Trump's "help". Hell, if I were Prezdent, I wouldn't help California either! I'd just let California stew in it's own politically-correct juices and watch it slowly go broke as it tries to "help" millions of illegal aliens who aren't adding to the tax base! Seriously. Stupid decisions should have consequences ... why should I expect Trump to save us from ourselves? Because we'd be so grateful?

If illegal immigration is such a boon for the economy (as you claim) then CA will be the living experiment. We will fall or rise based on our "reading" of reality, and other people can learn from our success or failure.

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Signym, there is not a wall built around California that keeps Trump out. It is his responsibility to enforce the laws against illegal aliens everywhere. But if I take you seriously then, maybe, California is too tough for Trump because it is controlled by Democrats so he is concentrating enforcing laws that would keep illegal aliens from working in a Republican controlled state such as Texas. Except Trump is NOT. He is not doing a goddamn thing about the millions of Mexicans working in Texas, either. The man can't organize anything more effective than what Obama left behind. But Trump sure can brag about his imaginary achievements.

I actually want to see Trump start removing like 10% of the illegal aliens working in America during the next two years. At that rate Republican Presidents will get to the hard case of California in about 15 years when Trump and his successors have removed all those illegal aliens working in the other 49 states. By then his enforcement agency he guided during his Presidency should be a well running machine that can handle California. I am kidding. Trump is too lazy to make that happen.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, December 7, 2018 9:37 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This bodes ill for California!

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

What is Trump doing about California? Why is it not a high priority of his enforcement efforts?

It is Trump’s duty to enforce immigration laws for employees AND employers, but he is not doing the employer part his duty. I am amazed that Trump voters in California do not get angry at Trump for that failure.

Obviously illegal immigrants are not the only ones breaking the law when it comes to their employment in the United States. Employers that use them (whether it be for cheaper labor, or any other purpose) are also likely breaking the law, especially if they know that they are employing someone without an authorization to live and work in the United States. The relevant legislation is the Immigration and Nationality Act, and in particular Section 274A that deals with "The Unlawful Employment of Aliens." If every single business in the U.S. complied with this law and refused to employ illegal immigrants, there likely would not be any illegal immigration into the country, as very few people willingly move to a place where they would have no income.
www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2017/07/13/how-to-deal-with-employe
r-compliance-and-u-s-immigration-law
/

California would be the perfect place for Trump to easily carry out his duty because the illegal immigrant workers are concentrated in California. Why is Trump failing to perform his duty in California? How does he convince Trump voters not to be angry at him? The California governor can’t stop Trump, but Trump has stopped Trump from enthusiastically enforcing the law against employers of illegal aliens.

Nearly one in ten California workers is an undocumented immigrant. California’s labor force includes about 1.75 million undocumented immigrants. This is the second-highest statewide concentration of undocumented workers (9.0%) in the US after Nevada (10.4%). Undocumented immigrants work disproportionately in agriculture, construction, and manufacturing.

In 2014, the year of the most recent data available, California was home to between 2.35 and 2.6 million undocumented immigrants. Nearly a quarter of the nation’s undocumented immigrants reside in California, where they constitute more than 6% of the state’s population.
www.ppic.org/publication/undocumented-immigrants-in-california/

Here is a reference to 10 million undocumented immigrants. Is there another category of Illegal Aliens?
For all of these who vote, which California encourages, they are Illegal Votes, which Trump has accurately pointed out.
And they all voted for Hilliary, Newsom, Beto.
When Trump ends Federal Funding to Sanctuary Cities, he will be starting to address the immigration problem. Until then, The Wall is another avenue to pursue.

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Friday, December 7, 2018 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Here is a reference to 10 million undocumented immigrants. Is there another category of Illegal Aliens?
For all of these who vote, which California encourages, they are Illegal Votes, which Trump has accurately pointed out.
And they all voted for Hilliary, Newsom, Beto.
When Trump ends Federal Funding to Sanctuary Cities, he will be starting to address the immigration problem. Until then, The Wall is another avenue to pursue.

You know that Trump established a commission to prove that millions voted who were illegal. That commission fell on its face, broke its neck, and died in agony. Maybe Trump should start another commission?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Advisory_Commission_on_Elec
tion_Integrity#Disbanding


Texas is waiting for Trump to send agents to arrest the millions of Mexicans living here. When is Trump sending those agents? Soon, I hope? The Texas border is secure, but millions and millions of Mexicans some how got around the border patrol. What is Trump doing? Maybe the border patrol needs to turn their faces away from Mexico and look Northward toward Texas?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 9, 2018 2:49 AM

"Texas is waiting for Trump to send agents to arrest the millions of Mexicans living here. When is Trump sending those agents? "

Really? You got a link for that? Or is that just more of your bull-shit trolling?




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, December 9, 2018 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Texas is waiting for Trump to send agents to arrest the millions of Mexicans living here. When is Trump sending those agents? "

Really? You got a link for that? Or is that just more of your bull-shit trolling?

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

If Trump won't deport illegal aliens faster, how is he any better than slow Obama?

Trump does not brag about how many long term resident illegal aliens he has removed from Texas. He does not even publish numbers, maybe because it would look bad that he sent more Troops to the Texas border than the number of long term residents he deported. But we can't know how many he deported because he won't publish the numbers nor will he publish his plan for removing the 11 million illegal aliens living in America. What is his plan? Does anyone have a plan? Where is it? When does it finish? How fast will it deport illegal aliens? Nobody knows because Trump hasn't given anybody any deadlines or threatened to fired them if he doesn't have a plan this year. Maybe next year Trump will actually get around to finally doing his job.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 9, 2018 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Trump does not brag about how many long term resident illegal aliens he has removed from Texas. He does not even publish numbers, maybe because it would look bad that he sent more Troops to the Texas border than the number of long term residents he deported. But we can't know how many he deported because he won't publish the numbers nor will he publish his plan for removing the 11 million illegal aliens living in America. What is his plan? Does anyone have a plan? Where is it? When does it finish? How fast will it deport illegal aliens? Nobody knows because Trump hasn't given anybody any deadlines or threatened to fired them if he doesn't have a plan this year. Maybe next year Trump will actually get around to finally doing his job.



Houston, there's a problem: he can't figure out how to make any money off of deporting poor people back to poor countries. So what's his motivation? Building a wall - which is pretty well agreed to be completely ineffective - is something he could at least point to "I did that!" and see TRUMP spray painted every 100 yards on the side. (It will say some other things besides just TRUMP).

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Sunday, December 9, 2018 11:32 PM

Still waiting for you to find that link that supports your claim, bullshitter.


"Texas is waiting for Trump to send agents to arrest the millions of Mexicans living here. When is Trump sending those agents? "

Really? You got a link for that? Or is that just more of your bull-shit trolling?




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?


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Monday, December 10, 2018 3:34 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Still waiting for you to find that link that supports your claim, bullshitter.


"Texas is waiting for Trump to send agents to arrest the millions of Mexicans living here. When is Trump sending those agents? "

Really? You got a link for that? Or is that just more of your bull-shit trolling?

www.ice.gov/statistics
www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-enhancing-publ
ic-safety-interior-united-states
/
www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/17_0220_S1_Enforcement-of
-the-Immigration-Laws-to-Serve-the-National-Interest.pdf


1kiki, click the links and you will see statistics that date back to Obama and non-existent Trump plans for removing aliens. Trump hasn't done a damn thing in two years. . . except run his mouth.

There are no plans coming in 2018 from the West Wing because Trump fired John Kelly, the Chief of Staff. Kelly'd be the guy rounding up people to write that plan. Nick Ayers, the leading candidate to replace John Kelly as President Donald Trump's chief of staff, will not be taking the job. That leaves nobody but Trump to organize people to write the plan. But organization is not a strong Trump characteristic. Maybe there will be a plan sometime in 2019, once a new Chief of Staff arrives. Maybe 2020. Maybe never will there be a plan from Trump to remove all 11 million illegal aliens. Maybe Trump is all talk and no do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:10 PM

According to FOX News, the news Trump voters can trust, Trump threatens to have military build border wall if Pelosi, Schumer won’t budge.
www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-threatens-to-have-military-build-border
-wall-if-pelosi-schumer-wont-budge


Because Trump cannot use Pentagon money to build the wall, Pelosi and Schumer aren't budging. They know he can't move money from, say, aircraft carriers to a Texas/Mexico wall. Maybe even Trump knows he can't. But who knows with that guy? Maybe he is running his mouth? Or maybe somebody told him something and he misunderstood what he can and can't do?

But whatever Trump thinks he is doing, he owes America a shutdown in Dec. of the Federal Government because he is not getting a Wall in 2018.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:32 PM

Trump threatens shutdown in wild encounter with Democrats.

Neither the public nor the private face-to-face portion of the meeting appeared to resolve the wall-funding dispute with a partial shutdown looming on Dec. 21. However, Pelosi said Trump called her later in the afternoon and told her the White House was looking at options she and Schumer had laid out.

www.apnews.com/9518d24c6bbe41238b8c82f092393284

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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