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Originally posted by second:
These two developments are related suggests historian Jefferson Cowie. His case is simple: It is hard to implement egalitarian economic policies in the absence of working-class solidarity — and it is hard to achieve the latter in a context of mass, multi-ethnic immigration.
Yup. Simple solution. Kick them out and then keep them out.
Problem solved.
What a great deal.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I wish Trump would solve the problem, but he is not. The number of illegal aliens living permanently in the US is only down by a few thousand since Trump took power. There are 12 million more to go. At the rate Trump is moving, he will have removed a million of them in about 20 years and he will still have 11 million more to go. Maybe the 11 million will die of old age? But most of them are younger than Trump and will outlive him. I guess Trump doesn't realize that patrolling the border won't stop illegal aliens who are already here.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
These two developments are related suggests historian Jefferson Cowie. His case is simple: It is hard to implement egalitarian economic policies in the absence of working-class solidarity — and it is hard to achieve the latter in a context of mass, multi-ethnic immigration.
Yup. Simple solution. Kick them out and then keep them out.
Problem solved.
What a great deal.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Keeping invaders out is first priority, otherwise you're just wasting your time.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:When there are already 12 million invaders secretly living inside Trump's Fortress America and only thousands of new invaders openly crossing Trump's imaginary Wall into his Fortress, his biggest problem is the millions, not the thousands. He has all kinds of laws authorizing removal of the millions, but unsurprisingly Trump only concentrates on the thousands and the imaginary wall Congress won't pay for.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Keeping invaders out is first priority, otherwise you're just wasting your time.
Trump does not have an effective strategy to remove 12 million aliens, 6ix. But he will never need one if he has already convinced people like you that he fixed the problem by stopping only a few thousand.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:When there are already 12 million invaders secretly living inside Trump's Fortress America and only thousands of new invaders openly crossing Trump's imaginary Wall into his Fortress, his biggest problem is the millions, not the thousands. He has all kinds of laws authorizing removal of the millions, but unsurprisingly Trump only concentrates on the thousands and the imaginary wall Congress won't pay for.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Keeping invaders out is first priority, otherwise you're just wasting your time.
Trump does not have an effective strategy to remove 12 million aliens, 6ix. But he will never need one if he has already convinced people like you that he fixed the problem by stopping only a few thousand.
How did the millions get here, dipshit?
It's comical how stupid and illogical you are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:SECOND probably thinks they teleported here all at once.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How did the millions get here, dipshit?
It's comical how stupid and illogical you are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
What's different about Trump is his commitment to actually stopping illegal immigration. No other president I can think of has taken that position. Instead, they've wrung their hands, claimed it's a problem while at the same time bemoaning the plight of those poor people while at the same time allowing US businesses to rake in the dough by exploiting them.
Without the flow of cheap exploitable labor, and with Americans demanding better wages for that work, I do believe, however, that we're going to run into the contradiction of capitalism. By definition, profit is the difference between what you pay your workers and what you sell the product for. By definition, the person who makes the Mercedes can only afford the Honda. The person who makes the Honda can only afford the bicycle. The person who makes the bicycle can only afford shoes. And the person who makes the shoes ...
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Quote:SECOND probably thinks they teleported here all at once.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How did the millions get here, dipshit?
It's comical how stupid and illogical you are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
What's different about Trump is his commitment to actually stopping illegal immigration. No other president I can think of has taken that position. Instead, they've wrung their hands, claimed it's a problem while at the same time bemoaning the plight of those poor people while at the same time allowing US businesses to rake in the dough by exploiting them.
I do believe, however, that we're going to run into the contradiction of capitalism. By definition, profit is the difference between what you pay your workers and what you sell the product for that they made. By definition, the person who makes the Mercedes can only afford the Honda. The person who makes the Honda can only afford the bicycle. The person who makes the bicycle can only afford shoes. Ad the person who makes the shoes ...
Yup. All those mental gymnastics and opposing stances in their brain space must be exhausting. That is why only the rich and the people on government welfare vote Democrat.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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That's one of the things I found refreshing about Trump's statement about the Khashoggi murder. We buy SA oil with the US-petrodollar. SA uses the US-petrodollar to buy hundreds of billions in US arms. It's been the arrangement since the petrodollar was finalized in 1974. And SA has been a Wahhabist hotbed of exported global terrorism and a murderous repressive regime internally all this time. When Trump basically said - they support our economy and we can't afford to alienate them (is how I interpreted his various words) - people understood that.
Do *I* like or support that entire mutualism? No.
But at least it's nice to be told the truth, even if it came out under pressure. And finally, an end to the mental gymnastics around SA.
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Quote:SECOND probably thinks they teleported here all at once.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How did the millions get here, dipshit?
It's comical how stupid and illogical you are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
What's different about Trump is his commitment to actually stopping illegal immigration.
1kiki, a majority of illegal aliens arrived by airplane, not teleportation. A 2017 report from the Center for Migration Studies (CMS) found "that two-thirds of those who arrived in 2014 did not illegally cross a border, but were admitted (after screening) on non-immigrant (temporary) visas, and then overstayed their period of admission or otherwise violated the terms of their visas." This trend, it claimed, would "likely continue into the foreseeable future."
http://cmsny.org/publications/jmhs-visa-overstays-border-wall/
Trump's responsibility extends to 12 million illegal aliens that arrived before he was President. But he is not acting that way. His commitment is nonexistent. If he refuses to shutdown the government this month to gets his wall you will have proof that his commitment doesn't exist. He has promised a shutdown, over and over. If he does a half-hearted shutdown and then surrenders before he gets his wall, that will be more proof that he is only a loudmouth, not the person he claimed to be.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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