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Rigged voting .... been going on for a long time, and still happening

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Monday, November 12, 2018 5:30 AM

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Like I said, there are a lot of ways to manipulate the vote, and both parties have figured out every possible angle on gaining advantage. It's what political parties do, neh? SIGNY
I just want to expand on that a bit. Once you have political parties and those entities are given some control over how votes are conducted, it's an evolutionary inevitability that the party (parties) which exercise the most effective control over the vote will get more of it's members in office, gain MORE control over the voting process, and survive and thrive. So unless laws are written which specifically bar those manipulative activities, and policies are in place that ENSURE that voters are represented it will be the law of the jungle. Political parties seeking to take advantage? In a way, they're just fulfilling their purpose.

Written like an entrenched Democrat.

Conservatives get elected to Public Office to serve the public, abide the Law, abide The Constitution.
Liberals/Progressives seek to circumvent all Laws and Integrity, corrupt and destroy The Constitution, evade Honest and Legal Election practices - just like you explained.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 7:43 AM

I can cite any number of devious vote-rigging heists by the GOP. Most blatantly the cyber-theft of the 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections.

Please don't be like THUGR about this topic. Painful as it might be, facts are what they are. And in a sense, I don't blame either party for doing what they do: Our laws set the "environment" by rewarding some behaviors and dis-incentivising others. The parties are only doing what they're incentivised to do; it's an inevitable response given the situation.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 8:56 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I can cite any number of devious vote-rigging heists by the GOP. Most blatantly the cyber-theft of the 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections.

Please don't be like THUGR about this topic. Painful as it might be, facts are what they are. And in a sense, I don't blame either party for doing what they do: Our laws set the "environment" by rewarding some behaviors and dis-incentivising others. The parties are only doing what they're incentivised to do; it's an inevitable response given the situation.

Actual cyber-theft of an election should not be tolerated, endorsed, or celebrated.

Otherwise, please cite any number of vote heists by the GoP.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 10:05 AM

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... please cite any number of vote heists by the GoP.
I just did. I provided links earlier. What else do you want from me?

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Monday, November 12, 2018 1:52 PM

Is there any proof of this?

And I agree, crying about "rigged" elections make those stupid fucks look like
crybabies. A good example of Governor Scott, that Nazi scumbag. Oh, I forgot that could be construed as libel. That pansy-ass, scumbag (there that's better).


SGG


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All that being said, I think the one thing that should be done is to require a photo ID to vote. That would eliminate a lot of the potential problems, but not all of them.

At the same time, I can't stand when people bitch about voter fraud right after an election. It makes them look like crybabies. It made them look like crybabies when they were claiming it was Russia in 2016 and it makes them look like crybabies when "muh Liberals" did it in 2018.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

Yep, they were crying right after the Honest Election, when polls closed on Tuesday Night. And now Law-Abiding Patriots are crying FOUL while the After-Election count keeps bloating until the Thieves have stolen the Election from Honest.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 6:27 PM

Good point.

Any proof of Russian interference two years later either?


Hows about you and JSF both stop crying when elections don't go your way, mkay?

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Is there any proof of this?

And I agree, crying about "rigged" elections make those stupid fucks look like
crybabies. A good example of Governor Scott, that Nazi scumbag. Oh, I forgot that could be construed as libel. That pansy-ass, scumbag (there that's better).


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All that being said, I think the one thing that should be done is to require a photo ID to vote. That would eliminate a lot of the potential problems, but not all of them.

At the same time, I can't stand when people bitch about voter fraud right after an election. It makes them look like crybabies. It made them look like crybabies when they were claiming it was Russia in 2016 and it makes them look like crybabies when "muh Liberals" did it in 2018.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

Yep, they were crying right after the Honest Election, when polls closed on Tuesday Night. And now Law-Abiding Patriots are crying FOUL while the After-Election count keeps bloating until the Thieves have stolen the Election from Honest.




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 12, 2018 11:23 PM

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crying about "rigged" elections make those stupid fucks look like crybabies.- SHINY
And wow, you just spent two whole YEARS crying about a "hacked" election!

What am I not understanding here?

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Monday, November 12, 2018 11:49 PM

My god. are all Broward Co elections officials complete clowns?

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Provisional Ballot Boxes Discovered Inside AVIS Rental Car At Ft. Lauderdale Airport

Provisional ballot boxes from the Broward County Supervisor of Elections Office were reportedly discovered in the back of an AVIS rental car at Fort Lauderdale Airport on Sunday night, as first reported by investigative journalist Laura Loomer.

Attorney and Broward GOP State Committeeman Richard DeNapoli says he received a call from an AVIS employee informing him of the found ballot boxes after sheriff's deputies were initially unwilling to investigate. Approximately 20 minutes after receiving the tip, however, a heavy police presence arrived and blocked off traffic to the airport, and a bomb threat was announced.

Pictures taken at the scene show two boxes. One box is red, and the other is grey. The grey box is labeled "PROVISIONAL BALLOT BOX" with a sign that says "Broward County Supervisor of Elections", a purple tag that says "ERT region 13", and a backwards yellow tag with a seven digit numerical and five letter code. -Laura Loomer

DeNapoli says that the car was rented to a man by the name of Noah Holliman.

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Sunday evening, the Broward County Sheriff's Office tweeted "Our deputies and bomb squad are responding to a report of a suspicious package outside @FLLFlyer Terminal 4," only later to tweet an "all-clear."

Loomer says that when she attempted to make her way to the airport, she was blocked by an officer. She then told the public that "Broward County Sheriff's Officers were on the scene filling out a police report and documenting the ballots."

Florida Politico Lauren Cooley also rushed to the scene, saying (via Laura Loomer):

"The AVIS employee didn't know what to do. No one wanted to touch the boxes or take responsibility for them. Finally, sheriffs deputies agreed to take the provisional ballot boxes into their custody. It's an odd situation when supervisor of elections (SOE) employees are so careless with important election materials, but its becoming a trend in Broward County."

No shit!

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Meanwhile, DeNapoli added the following in an emailed statement to Loomer:

"The way it went down: rental agency guy contacted me because he saw my name on Florida GOP website as contact for Broward County. He said he spoke with some Sheriffs Deputy Personnel at the airport but they seemed disinterested in getting involved. I contacted some friends in law enforcement who got the FDLE involved. After I arrived at the airport, FDLE contacted Broward Sheriff Jeremey Hansen who came to the Avis at the Fort Lauderdale airport. They interviewed me and the AVIS employee and took the boxes into evidence."

Loomer notes that "while the "media" was in Terminal 4 reporting on a non-existent bomb threat that was literally tweeted from the official Twitter account of the Broward Sheriffs Office. Meanwhile, there was never a bomb."

"The FBI needs to kick in the door, interview all board of election employees, shutter the Broward County elections offices, seize all the ballots and put a stop to the Democrats disrupting the elections," said GOP operative Ali Alexander with StopTheSteal - a campaign established to collect intelligence and document alleged election malfeasance amid the Florida ballot controversies.

"This is a bigger story than we could have ever imagined and Floridians and the entire country demand answers."



Jeez Louise, these people shouldn't be anywhere near an election they're so incompetent!

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Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:40 AM

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Any proof of Russian interference two years later either?

Is an indictment enough for you to change your tune about no proof? Or will convincing you require Trump sending an Army into Russia to capture the people indicted so that they can go to trial in America? I'm pretty sure Trump won't be giving that order to the Pentagon because Trump wants 6ix to keep on saying there is no proof.

12 Russian GRU officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.

13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments
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Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:52 AM

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Is an indictment enough for you to change your tune about no proof?
An "indictment" is an accusation, not a conviction.

Of the entities indicted, one demanded its day in court. Now, part of the process is that you have to show the evidence against the indicted individual, but when Concord (the company in question) demanded to see the evidence, Mueller choked ....

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Indicted Russian company complains Mueller hasn’t handed over evidence

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/388055-indicted-russian-co
mpany-complains-mueller-hasnt-handed-over-evidence


The legal dicing continues, with ...

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Mueller’s Team Continues Their Humiliation at the Hands of a Russian Oligarch

... The flimsiness of the cases against all the Russians is underscored in the one case Mueller is being forced to prosecute, that of Concord Management, a company owned by oligarch, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

Prigozhin was indicted with fanfare back in February and sent the left and NeverTrumpers, to the extent that there is still a difference between the two groups, into orgasmic paroxysms. Much to Mueller’s surprise, Concord retained US counsel.

Almost immediately, it became clear that Mueller’s crack team was not ready for prime time.
For a while, the case seemed to be on the verge of dismissal. We found that Mueller had indicted a company that didn’t exist during the 2016 election.

Concord Management’s legal team was back in court last week and the hearing didn’t go well for the government. The judge asked some very pointed questions about how the government intended to prove the case. But it wasn’t apparent just how bad the hearing went for Team Mueller until the transcript of the hearing became available. ...


https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/10/24/muellers-team-continues-hu
miliation-hands-russian-oligarch
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You know what they say about being able to indict a ham sandwich? Apparently, you confuse accusation with evidence. It's a mistake that you and the rest of the RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!! crowd make constantly.

But then, why let FACTS get in the way of a good story, right SECOND?



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