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Bob Woodward’s New Book, ‘Fear’

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Thursday, September 6, 2018 8:42 PM

What's happening is the upcoming November elections. So now the DNC, the deep state, and the complicit M$M are firing all guns to ensure that a "blue wave" overtakes Congress so that Trump can be impeached, and so that the policies that the globalists favor (expanded "security state", "free trade", Russophobia/constant foreign intervention, increasing illegal immigration etc) can be re-instated.

CNN STOOD BY ITS "QUOTE" of Cohen's lawyer (that Trump knew of the meeting in Trump Tower ahead of time) only to have it go down in flames.

WOODWARD'S BOOK ISN'T HAVING THE IMPACT THEY WERE HOPING FOR. Too many "named" sources are disavowing their "quotes", and the rest of the book ... based on anonymous sources ... doesn't even make good toilet paper.

THE NEW YORK TIMES STANDS BY ITS ANONYMOUS EDITORIAL. They claim to know WHO wrote it, and that this person really is a "senior official", but the editorial seems to have BACKFIRED with some center and left media sources.

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Trump Saboteur Op-Ed Backfires: LA Times Calls "A Coward"; Greenwald: "Unelected Cabal"

An op-ed written in the New York Times by an anonymous "senior official in the Trump administration" has drawn harsh rebuke from both sides of the aisle and beyond - after everyone from President Trump to Glenn Greenwald to the Los Angeles Times chimed in with various criticisms.

The author, who claims to be actively working against Trump in collusion conspiracy with other senior officials in what they call a "resistance inside the Trump administration," has now been labeled everything from a coward, to treasonous, to nonexistent.

Trump supporters, also as expected, slammed the op-ed as either pure fiction or treason - a suggestion Trump made earlier Wednesday. What we don't imagine the anonymous author or the Times saw coming was the onslaught of criticism coming from the center and left - those who stand to benefit the most from Trump's fall from grace, or at least probably wouldn't mind it.

In an op-ed which appeared hours after the NYT piece, Jessica Roy of the Los Angeles Times writes:

"No, anonymous Trump official, you're not 'part of the resistance.' You're a coward" for not going far enough to stop Trump and in fact enabling him.

If they really believe there's a need to subvert the president to protect the country, they should be getting this person out of the White House. But they're too cowardly and afraid of the possible implications. They hand-wave the notion thusly:

“Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis."

How is it that utilizing the 25th Amendment of the Constitution would cause a crisis, but admitting to subverting a democratically elected leader wouldn't?

If you're reading this, senior White House official, know this: You are not resisting Donald Trump. You are enabling him for your own benefit. That doesn't make you an unsung hero. It makes you a coward. -LA Times


Meanwhile, Glenn Greenwald - the Pulitzer Prize Winning co-founder of The Intercept, also called the author of the op-ed a "coward" whose ideological issues "voters didn't ratify." Greenwald continues;

"The irony in the op-ed from the NYT's anonymous WH coward is glaring and massive: s/he accuses Trump of being "anti-democratic" while boasting of membership in an unelected cabal that covertly imposes their own ideology with zero democratic accountability, mandate or transparency."


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-06/one-word-has-people-convince
d-mike-pence-authored-scathing-nyt-op-ed


So if this creates a backlash

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THG
Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:02 PM

The choice is to believe comrade sig and her fake news sources, along with comrades ikik, jack and jsf, or to people who've been honorably serving this country for decades. That includes believing what the main stream media is reporting. It's an easy choice for me because I live in the world of reality.
T



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Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:05 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

1) The NYT received an editorial but didn't do it's due diligence, and didn't confirm the presumed source, or

2) The editorial WAS written by WH "senior staff", who outed himself as part of a conspiracy which is imposing its unelected ideology on America or,

3) The editorial was written by WH "senior staff" as part of a WH disinformation campaign.

None of these are pretty alternatives. But I'm sure that those who "trust" the M$M will somehow manage to overlook the implications of all of these "gaffes", including this last one, and bury them deeply in their memory-hole.

Signym, you are lying, again in Trump's service. The editorial writer's identity is known to the NYTimes, just not to Trump. Your panicky writing about conspiracies changes nothing, but you and Trump really have no worries. The Democrats will never get 67 Senators, which means Trump is safe. The Democrats might not break 51% in the House, which means Trump won't even be talked mean about in Congress. But Trump has extremely delicate skin. Mean talk makes him break out in a rash.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/ho
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:06 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I haven't decided whether that op-ed is genuine or not, who the audience is suppose to be, what it's purpose is short term or long term. It has a phony ring to it often but that could just be poor writing skills. Is it Pence as some have suggested, trying to save his future, seeing the way the world is swaying? Don McGahn? I bet we'll know soon enough.




It's been said the Times knows who the source is. If that's true then what is being reported is as well and this comes from a senior advisor to the president.

Can you hear the clock ticking? I can...

T

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Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:20 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I haven't decided whether that op-ed is genuine or not, who the audience is suppose to be, what it's purpose is short term or long term. It has a phony ring to it often but that could just be poor writing skills. Is it Pence as some have suggested, trying to save his future, seeing the way the world is swaying? Don McGahn? I bet we'll know soon enough.




It's been said the Times knows who the source is. If that's true then what is being reported is as well and this comes from a senior advisor to the president.

Can you hear the clock ticking? I can...

T


I don't think any editorial will harm Trump in the slightest. "Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me." Trump could harm himself with voters if he does something violently stupid to discover who the anonymous editorial writer is. Since his staff is not stupid, they won't do it. So Trump is safe from whatever idiotic scheme he dreams up for his staff to execute in learning anonymous's name.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:31 PM

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Signym, you are lying, again in Trump's service. The editorial writer's identity is known to the NYTimes, just not to Trump. - SECOND
Then the author of the editorial just outed himself as part of a deep state conspiracy to impose on America an unelected ideology. Conspiracy to thwart a Presidency?? Isn't that something like treason?

Like I said, SECOND, none of the alternatives are pretty, and of all of them, this is the ugliest. I proposed the other two alternatives so as to give the both the author AND the NYT the benefit of the doubt.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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THG
Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:32 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I haven't decided whether that op-ed is genuine or not, who the audience is suppose to be, what it's purpose is short term or long term. It has a phony ring to it often but that could just be poor writing skills. Is it Pence as some have suggested, trying to save his future, seeing the way the world is swaying? Don McGahn? I bet we'll know soon enough.




It's been said the Times knows who the source is. If that's true then what is being reported is as well and this comes from a senior advisor to the president.

Can you hear the clock ticking? I can...

T


I don't think any editorial will harm Trump in the slightest. "Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me." Trump could harm himself with voters if he does something violently stupid to discover who the anonymous editorial writer is. Since his staff is not stupid, they won't do it. So Trump is safe from whatever idiotic scheme he dreams up for his staff to execute in learning anonymous's name.




Trump is cracking. He is realizing that the crimes he committed by colluding with the Russians for decades, helping them to money launder could destroy his businesses. Remember, Trump lives in dept. Those loans and debts could be called in.

Add to that the trouble his family is in. No, he's cracking. Lets also hope that the republicans see the writing on the wall and start to do the right thing when it comes to this country.

T

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THG
Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:01 PM

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Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by second:
You could certainly decide that Trump is more than half crazy. He is never calm : Trump responded by questioning whether the anonymous senior White House official even existed, tweeting: "Does the so-called 'Senior Administration Official' really exist, or is it just the Failing New York Times with another phony source? If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!"

Maybe Trump's lawyers will tell him that the mystery editorial writer cannot be executed for TREASON on a President's orders. If Trump does have the execution order typed and ready for his signature, maybe somebody will steal it off Trump's desk. Soon enough he will forget all about it in the dizzying swirl of chaos spinning around in the Oval Office.



I believe that Trump is crazier than most people realize, even those that follow his tweets and speeches and already think he's crazy. He's. Even. Crazier.
Timothy O'Brien, author of TrumpNation: The Art of Being the Donald, has said that when he sees reports of things "getting increasingly crazy" at the White House he has to laugh a bit. "He's always been that crazy and he always will be that crazy."

Tick Tock

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THG
Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Saddam has WMD!!! Be afraid!! Be very afraid!!!

Or, employ a little bit of skepticism. A book filled with gossip, released two months before the elections? Gee, whooda thunk?

Personally, I'd ignore everything that was anonymously sourced, and only pay attention to statements with names attached. At least you can follow up with that.



T


An anonymous NYT op-ed, which the paper said was written by a senior administration official, asserted that appointees, serving at the highest levels of the Trump administration, have worked to 'thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.'

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