FBI Raids Manafort's Home

POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 14:55
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SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, August 11, 2017 3:03 PM

You know, I find this rather curious. It's been two days since the news broke regarding the raid of Manafort's home by the FBI. Yet here we are, and no mention of it by anyone, not even our resident Russia-phobes.

It's been all over the MSM Libtard news. You guys are slipping!
What, Fox forgot their headline busters? Later, I'm going to go watch Fox to see what they have to say about the latest development.

Trump, of course, praised Manafort as a good man. Meanwhile, he continues to bash McConnell. Good, the rats are slowly abandoning ship.

SGG

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, August 11, 2017 3:26 PM

Ahhhh, that's more like it.........

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/10/trump-lawyer-slams-special-
counsel-for-gross-abuse-in-manafort-raid-challenges-warrant.html

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5536845531001/?#sp=show-clips

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/09/paul-manafort-raid-judge-napolit
ano-reacts-latest-mueller-russia-probe

SGG

KPO

Friday, August 11, 2017 4:52 PM

I'm watching with interest. Have known about the shady Manafort since his time in Ukraine working for the pro-Russian, corrupt former president Yanukovich, who stole billions from the country and was overthrown, but not before ordering his security forces to fire on protesters, killing nearly 100. Manafort went from working for him, to working for Trump (another corrupt, pro-Russian authoritarian). That should tell you something.

Glad to see that the FBI is getting its teeth deep into this guy, hopefully just the first rotten domino to fall.

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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Syrian regime collusion with ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

KPO

Friday, August 11, 2017 4:57 PM

Also note that Trump tweeted for acting FBI director McCabe to be fired just a few hours after the FBI raid on Manafort...

Yeah, Trump is worried.

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Syrian regime collusion with ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

AURAPTOR

Friday, August 11, 2017 5:45 PM

Nothing for Trump to be worried about, save for the fact that the Deep State and D.C. establishment are out to get him, no matter what.

Manafort fully cooperates and then is greeted early the next morning with an FBI raid on his home ?

Sorry, but that's straight up banana republic b.s. right there. Put simply, the FBI doesn't DO pre-dawn raids for cooperating individuals. IT's really fucking bad for business.

Also, this took place weeks ago, and gee... no leaks ! Gee, imagine that !

Add to the fact that there was no word on the raid, but also... nothing has been leaked out as to what was found.

This has all the earmarks of a set up.

RIVERLOVE

Friday, August 11, 2017 6:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nothing for Trump to be worried about, save for the fact that the Deep State and D.C. establishment are out to get him, no matter what.

Manafort fully cooperates and then is greeted early the next morning with an FBI raid on his home ?

Sorry, but that's straight up banana republic b.s. right there. Put simply, the FBI doesn't DO pre-dawn raids for cooperating individuals. IT's really fucking bad for business.

Also, this took place weeks ago, and gee... no leaks ! Gee, imagine that !

Add to the fact that there was no word on the raid, but also... nothing has been leaked out as to what was found.

This has all the earmarks of a set up.

Ah, some sobering truth! Very refreshing, very refreshing. Slimy's gonna be devastated .. again.

SIGNYM

Friday, August 11, 2017 8:16 PM

Quote:
but not before ordering his security forces to fire on protesters,

More bullshit and lies from the aptly-renamed KRAPO.

Quote:
When the shooting started early on the morning of the 20th, Sergei [A PROTESTER] says, he was escorted to the Conservatory, and spent some 20 minutes before 07:00 firing on police, alongside a second gunman.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31359021

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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

THGRRI

Saturday, August 12, 2017 2:45 AM

He lived in Trump towers. Trump has known him for thirty years.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:21 AM

When is a Russian 'hack' not a hack? Evidence suggests DNC email hack was an inside job

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/when-is-a-russian-hack-not-a-hack-ev
idence-suggests-dnc-email-hack-was-an-inside-job/article/2631267

KPO

Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
but not before ordering his security forces to fire on protesters,
More bullshit and lies from the aptly-renamed KRAPO.

Quote:
When the shooting started early on the morning of the 20th, Sergei [A PROTESTER] says, he was escorted to the Conservatory, and spent some 20 minutes before 07:00 firing on police, alongside a second gunman.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31359021

That doesn't even contradict what I said... Get to the point in your conspiracy theory where you say the protesters shot themselves. Or was it the CIA?

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Syrian regime collusion with ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

SIGNYM

Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:52 AM

I'm not trying to drag this thread way off-topic, so this is my last response on the Maidan sniper shooting.

Quote:
There is a related type of false flag operation commonly used to create chaos and discredit regimes or protesters: snipers.

For example:
Unknown snipers reportedly killed both Venezuelan government and opposition protesters in the attempted 2002 coup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_d'%C3%A9tat_att
empt#Miraflores_confrontation

Unknown snipers fired during Thailand’s 2010 protests https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2010/0412/Thailand-s-red-
shirt-protests-darken-with-unknown-snipers-parade-of-coffins

Unknown snipers allegedly have created bedlam in Syria

A Russian general alleges that – during Yeltsin’s protest in front of the Russian parliament – sniper fire came from the roof of the American Embassy

And the Estonian foreign minister claims that the new Ukranian coalition deployed snipers to discredit the former government of Ukraine http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/estonian-foreign-minister-accus
es-new-ukranian-government-behind-sniper-attacks-led-ouster-old-ukranian-government.html

Brutal … but effective and cheap.

Because it doesn’t cost much to hire one or a handful of snipers to access rooftops or bridge overpasses, create chaos, and then quietly disappear.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/snipers-commonly-used-false-fla
g-terrorists.html

-----------
By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

REAVERFAN

Saturday, August 12, 2017 7:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nothing for Trump to be worried about, save for the fact that the Deep State and D.C. establishment are out to get him, no matter what.

Manafort fully cooperates and then is greeted early the next morning with an FBI raid on his home ?

Sorry, but that's straight up banana republic b.s. right there. Put simply, the FBI doesn't DO pre-dawn raids for cooperating individuals. IT's really fucking bad for business.

Also, this took place weeks ago, and gee... no leaks ! Gee, imagine that !

Add to the fact that there was no word on the raid, but also... nothing has been leaked out as to what was found.

This has all the earmarks of a set up.

You're hilarious!

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:24 AM

Yes, it's about time the FBI became aggressive in their pursuit of this guy Manafort, whom you could tell is a bad liar who's joined another bad liar. They're looking to squeeze Manafort to see if he's willing to sing for the authorities. Only time will tell, but yes I knew about his dirty dealings with the bogus Ukraine
oligarch/Putin puppet.

Hopefully the first of many to fall.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
I'm watching with interest. Have known about the shady Manafort since his time in Ukraine working for the pro-Russian, corrupt former president Yanukovich, who stole billions from the country and was overthrown, but not before ordering his security forces to fire on protesters, killing nearly 100. Manafort went from working for him, to working for Trump (another corrupt, pro-Russian authoritarian). That should tell you something.

Glad to see that the FBI is getting its teeth deep into this guy, hopefully just the first rotten domino to fall.

-------------------------------------------------------

"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Syrian regime collusion with ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:28 AM

Yeah, he's feeling the heat. Trump can't fire everybody, but I'm curious as to how long McConnell and Ryan will continue to back him. The shit is about to hit the fan.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
Also note that Trump tweeted for acting FBI director McCabe to be fired just a few hours after the FBI raid on Manafort...

Yeah, Trump is worried.

-------------------------------------------------------

"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Syrian regime collusion with ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:41 AM

Sure Rappy, nothing for Trump to worry about...nothing to see here. Then why is he so eager to fire another FBI director? The Deep State is gonna rip Trump a new one, then we'll see some heavy duty backpedaling.

And the truth shall set you free!

Manafort cooperated and still Mueller felt the need to raid his home, but really Manafort and Trump should feel at home with the Gestapo Tactics...All Heil Hitler!
Straight up bullshit alright, banana republic rules for a banana republic regime.
And no leaks! That goes to show you how it's done. Mueller to this day is quietly going about his business - no tweets, no leaks and no fake news. That's how you conduct an investigation.

Yep, this IS a set up. Gangnam Style!

Next stop Kushner.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nothing for Trump to be worried about, save for the fact that the Deep State and D.C. establishment are out to get him, no matter what.

Manafort fully cooperates and then is greeted early the next morning with an FBI raid on his home ?

Sorry, but that's straight up banana republic b.s. right there. Put simply, the FBI doesn't DO pre-dawn raids for cooperating individuals. IT's really fucking bad for business.

Also, this took place weeks ago, and gee... no leaks ! Gee, imagine that !

Add to the fact that there was no word on the raid, but also... nothing has been leaked out as to what was found.

This has all the earmarks of a set up.

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:43 AM

Kazing! Deflect! And this without the famed Wonder woman bracelets! Ha!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
but not before ordering his security forces to fire on protesters,
More bullshit and lies from the aptly-renamed KRAPO.

Quote:
When the shooting started early on the morning of the 20th, Sergei [A PROTESTER] says, he was escorted to the Conservatory, and spent some 20 minutes before 07:00 firing on police, alongside a second gunman.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31359021

-----------
By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:48 AM

Ah, refreshing like the land of the sky blue waters. Step right up folks, the leg pulling is about to begin.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nothing for Trump to be worried about, save for the fact that the Deep State and D.C. establishment are out to get him, no matter what.

Manafort fully cooperates and then is greeted early the next morning with an FBI raid on his home ?

Sorry, but that's straight up banana republic b.s. right there. Put simply, the FBI doesn't DO pre-dawn raids for cooperating individuals. IT's really fucking bad for business.

Also, this took place weeks ago, and gee... no leaks ! Gee, imagine that !

Add to the fact that there was no word on the raid, but also... nothing has been leaked out as to what was found.

This has all the earmarks of a set up.

Ah, some sobering truth! Very refreshing, very refreshing. Slimy's gonna be devastated .. again.

1KIKI

Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:53 AM

Are you drunk again?

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:06 AM

Quote:
Watching Trump distance himself from "Paul who?" Has been equally amusing. If Trump ever says, "I always thought of him as a good guy," you know you're nothing more than dirt to Trump. Hear that Trump Jr?

I agree, watching Trump wriggle on the line gives me a deep down chuckle that is so juicy. The only thing that would give me greater pleasure is to see him sweat while being cross-examined on the witness stand (I know this because he would be stupid enough to ignore advice of counsel and insist on testifying). This aught to be good.

Trump does not give a shit about anybody. Did you see the statement he read about the White Supremacist BBQ today in Charlottesville? It was beyond unfeeling, it was zombie-like. It reminded me of a girlfriend I once had for about 5 minutes.

SGG

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:08 AM

You're funny!

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Are you drunk again?

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:09 AM

Now, why isn't this Fake News?

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
When is a Russian 'hack' not a hack? Evidence suggests DNC email hack was an inside job

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/when-is-a-russian-hack-not-a-hack-ev
idence-suggests-dnc-email-hack-was-an-inside-job/article/2631267

1KIKI

Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Are you drunk again?

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You're funny!

You're a sloppy drunk!

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

1KIKI

Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
When is a Russian 'hack' not a hack? Evidence suggests DNC email hack was an inside job

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/when-is-a-russian-hack-not-a-hack-ev
idence-suggests-dnc-email-hack-was-an-inside-job/article/2631267

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Now, why isn't this Fake News?

Because it's not ...

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61853
Evidence: The DNC server was not "hacked"
POSTED BY: SIGNYM

Quote:
A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack

Written by Patrick Lawrence of The Nation,

It is now a year since the Democratic National Committee’s mail system was compromised—a year since events in the spring and early summer of 2016 were identified as remote hacks and, in short order, attributed to Russians acting in behalf of Donald Trump. A great edifice has been erected during this time. President Trump, members of his family, and numerous people around him stand accused of various corruptions and extensive collusion with Russians. Half a dozen simultaneous investigations proceed into these matters. Last week news broke that Special Counsel Robert Mueller had convened a grand jury, which issued its first subpoenas on August 3. Allegations of treason are common; prominent political figures and many media cultivate a case for impeachment.

The president’s ability to conduct foreign policy, notably but not only with regard to Russia, is now crippled. Forced into a corner and having no choice, Trump just signed legislation imposing severe new sanctions on Russia and European companies working with it on pipeline projects vital to Russia’s energy sector. Striking this close to the core of another nation’s economy is customarily considered an act of war, we must not forget. In retaliation, Moscow has announced that the United States must cut its embassy staff by roughly two-thirds. All sides agree that relations between the United States and Russia are now as fragile as they were during some of the Cold War’s worst moments. To suggest that military conflict between two nuclear powers inches ever closer can no longer be dismissed as hyperbole.

All this was set in motion when the DNC’s mail server was first violated in the spring of 2016 and by subsequent assertions that Russians were behind that “hack” and another such operation, also described as a Russian hack, on July 5. These are the foundation stones of the edifice just outlined. The evolution of public discourse in the year since is worthy of scholarly study: Possibilities became allegations, and these became probabilities. Then the probabilities turned into certainties, and these evolved into what are now taken to be established truths. By my reckoning, it required a few days to a few weeks to advance from each of these stages to the next. This was accomplished via the indefensibly corrupt manipulations of language repeated incessantly in our leading media.

Lost in a year that often appeared to veer into our peculiarly American kind of hysteria is the absence of any credible evidence

HINT HINT!

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of what happened last year and who was responsible for it. It is tiresome to note, but none has been made available. Instead, we are urged to accept the word of institutions and senior officials with long records of deception. These officials profess “high confidence” in their “assessment” as to what happened in the spring and summer of last year—this standing as their authoritative judgment. Few have noticed since these evasive terms first appeared that an assessment is an opinion, nothing more, and to express high confidence is an upside-down way of admitting the absence of certain knowledge. This is how officials avoid putting their names on the assertions we are so strongly urged to accept—as the record shows many of them have done.

We come now to a moment of great gravity.

There has been a long effort to counter the official narrative we now call “Russiagate.” This effort has so

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SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, August 14, 2017 3:17 PM

Too late!

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm not trying to drag this thread way off-topic, so this is my last response on the Maidan sniper shooting.
Quote:
There is a related type of false flag operation commonly used to create chaos and discredit regimes or protesters: snipers.

For example:
Unknown snipers reportedly killed both Venezuelan government and opposition protesters in the attempted 2002 coup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_d'%C3%A9tat_att
empt#Miraflores_confrontation

Unknown snipers fired during Thailand’s 2010 protests https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2010/0412/Thailand-s-red-
shirt-protests-darken-with-unknown-snipers-parade-of-coffins

Unknown snipers allegedly have created bedlam in Syria

A Russian general alleges that – during Yeltsin’s protest in front of the Russian parliament – sniper fire came from the roof of the American Embassy

And the Estonian foreign minister claims that the new Ukranian coalition deployed snipers to discredit the former government of Ukraine http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/estonian-foreign-minister-accus
es-new-ukranian-government-behind-sniper-attacks-led-ouster-old-ukranian-government.html

Brutal … but effective and cheap.

Because it doesn’t cost much to hire one or a handful of snipers to access rooftops or bridge overpasses, create chaos, and then quietly disappear.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/snipers-commonly-used-false-fla
g-terrorists.html

-----------
By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, August 14, 2017 3:21 PM

Is that all you got? Come now, you could do better than that!
There must be something else in the Repuke Playbook, or are you following the Alt-Right Playbook? I could never tell them apart.

Russian!?

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Are you drunk again?

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, August 14, 2017 3:23 PM

Quote:
Because it's not ...

Brilliant reply...so informative!

SGG

1KIKI

Monday, August 14, 2017 9:16 PM

Did you read the linked article?

OF COURSE NOT!

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:50 PM

Read the article. Wow! So obvious from the start that it was written by a right-wing GOP hack. Brilliantly written, yeah, and so informative, like I said. Who the fuck is Jennifer Kerns? Nice hatchet job!

Many experts in the field with nary a name of the "so-called" experts.
So I went back to the Nation article to try and finish reading it (I got through about 75% of it and gave up trying to follow it). So I went to the internet to try and find an article that I could follow and see if what I got from it was somewhat within the field of my comprehension. And what I found was this:

http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/08/the-nation-article-about-the-dnc-ha
ck-is-incoherent.html

Basically a review of The Nation article, stating that it made little sense.
Fuck! I wish I would have done this before I tried to decipher the technocratic verbiage in the Nation article. Now, I'm no expert in computers, not by a long shot, but I've written enough bullshit essays and term papers in college to know it when I see it.

Anyway, dueling articles. I "see" your BS article and I "raise" you another BS article. It's a draw, we both have a "FULL HOUSE" the hand is a wash.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Did you read the linked article?

OF COURSE NOT!

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, August 15, 2017 3:45 PM

You, you're good, you!

Face it keeks, you can't touch this!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Are you drunk again?
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You're funny!
You're a sloppy drunk!

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, August 15, 2017 6:45 PM

Awwww... SHINY .... and I even underlined the salient points!

Okay, here's the article, stripped down to its essentials, and with additional background.

Quote:
A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack

Written by Patrick Lawrence of The Nation,

.... All this was set in motion when the DNC’s mail server was first violated in the spring of 2016 and by subsequent assertions that Russians were behind that “hack” and another such operation, also described as a Russian hack, on July 5. ...
Lost in a year that often appeared to veer into our peculiarly American kind of hysteria is the absence of any credible evidence of what happened last year and who was responsible for it. It is tiresome to note, but none has been made available. Instead, we are urged to accept the word of institutions and senior officials with long records of deception.

In other words, as in the Wizard of Oz, pay no attention to that man (CIA, NSA, FBI) behind the curtain.

Quote:
.... Forensic investigators, intelligence analysts, system designers, program architects, and computer scientists of long experience and strongly credentialed are now producing evidence proving the official version of key events last year ... There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.

The NSA and CIA created a picture of some evil genius at a distant location .... transatlantic .... possibly Romania ... or Russian pretending to be a Russian-hating Romanian .... typing into his keyboard and accessing the DNC server with a magic few tricks known only to hackers, getting the server to spit out who-know-how-many gigabytes of files across the internet and then collecting them on his on hard drive at "home". You know - the typical movie-scenario when someone just finishes typing furiously on a keyboard and announces, with satisfaction I'm in and starts accessing the main servers at Langley.

Now, there are two places where you can get information as to what happened. The first is the "hacked" server. ALL computers keep a very VERY detailed "events log" of what/when software was initiated and closed, and what/when ports were attempted to be accessed by external sources. I know this for a fact because hubby has shown me the number of attempted intrusions on our simple system at home ... it's in the realm of many times a minute. I could even see where some external software was systematically testing our WIFI frequencies (which we have disabled for security reasons).

This EVENTS LOG information resides ON THE COMPROMISED SERVER. THAT was the one the FBI was never allowed to examine, by the DNC. All I can say is .... too much crime to wipe clean, Debbie?

The hacker can even erase those events log moments where s/he DID manage to crack the server, if they can control the events log, but s/he also manages to leave a gaping hole in the events log stream, which is fairly continuous. So even deletions are detectable, if you know where to look.

******

The SECOND place where corresponding information van be found is in the FILE SYSTEM OF THE COPIED INFORMATION. Even Microsoft file system, as crappy as it is, manages to time-stamp the information on the way in. That gives the file system the ability to tell which version is older and which is newer; so that when you're working on a file it knows which version to save and which to discard. If you open up your "folders" (assuming that you have MS) and click on the "details" icon, it will show you the file name, file extension (.doc. .xls etc), file size, and last revised time (date and time).

This information is attached to EVERY file in the form of "metadata" ...

1KIKI

Wednesday, August 16, 2017 10:05 AM

Quote:
You (sic) premise is flawed in many ways - it assumes:
1) we can trust Assange and his friend

Assange isn't part of the quoted story, so that statement is irrelevant to the story.

Quote:
2) we can trust the metadata

It's FAR more reliable than the 'Russian keyboard' evidence, which you seem to believe.

Quote:
3) even IF it was taken by thumb drive that means it wasn't a hack.

That's exactly the point of the article. It wasn't a hack.

Quote:
People can gain access to the DNC besides DNC staffers. To assume server event logs are tamper proof is silly.

So RUSSIANS got direct DNC server access? Is that what you're trying to say?

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, August 16, 2017 2:42 PM

Here's the thing. You believe this article because YOU feel comfortable with the material and the "person" who wrote it. I don't. Short and simple, and to the point.

I did a little digging of my own. I am skeptical of the "journalist" who contributed the article you post, you believe him and you post what you believe. No problem. Me, I'm not as smart as you obviously are, so I tend to go a different route. Yes, I admit it and I bow down to your superior intellect. There you have it, in writing.

And now, I will take my puny brain and scamper off into a dark corner and cower in shame and humiliation over my defeat to a far more intelligent human than myself. I will forever live in darkness because you have thoroughly defeated me. Oh woe is me!

And now I await your superior gloating and insults.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Awwww... SHINY .... and I even underlined the salient points!

Okay, here's the article, stripped down to its essentials, and with additional background.
Quote:
A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack

Written by Patrick Lawrence of The Nation,

.... All this was set in motion when the DNC’s mail server was first violated in the spring of 2016 and by subsequent assertions that Russians were behind that “hack” and another such operation, also described as a Russian hack, on July 5. ...
Lost in a year that often appeared to veer into our peculiarly American kind of hysteria is the absence of any credible evidence of what happened last year and who was responsible for it. It is tiresome to note, but none has been made available. Instead, we are urged to accept the word of institutions and senior officials with long records of deception.
In other words, as in the Wizard of Oz, pay no attention to that man (CIA, NSA, FBI) behind the curtain.

Quote:
.... Forensic investigators, intelligence analysts, system designers, program architects, and computer scientists of long experience and strongly credentialed are now producing evidence proving the official version of key events last year ... There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.

The NSA and CIA created a picture of some evil genius at a distant location .... transatlantic .... possibly Romania ... or Russian pretending to be a Russian-hating Romanian .... typing into his keyboard and accessing the DNC server with a magic few tricks known only to hackers, getting the server to spit out who-know-how-many gigabytes of files across the internet and then collecting them on his on hard drive at "home". You know - the typical movie-scenario when someone just finishes typing furiously on a keyboard and announces, with satisfaction I'm in and starts accessing the main servers at Langley.

Now, there are two places where you can get information as to what happened. The first is the "hacked" server. ALL computers keep a very VERY detailed "events log" of what/when software was initiated and closed, and what/when ports were attempted to be accessed by external sources. I know this for a fact because hubby has shown me the number of attempted intrusions on our simple system at home ... it's in the realm of many times a minute. I could even see where some external software was systematically testing our WIFI frequencies (which we have disabled for security reasons).

This EVENTS LOG information resides ON THE COMPROMISED SERVER. THAT was the one the FBI was never allowed to examine, by the DNC. All I can say is .... too much crime to wipe clean, Debbie?

The hacker can even erase those events log moments where s/he DID manage to crack the server, if they can control t

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:55 PM

Quote:
You (sic) premise is flawed in many ways - it assumes:
1) we can trust Assange and his friend- GSTRING

Assange isn't part of the quoted story, so that statement is irrelevant to the story.- KIKI

Did I say Assange was part of some quoted story? Signym has been quoting Assange and some Assange intermediary as part of this story, proof it wasn't Russia.- GSTRING.

Ok, we all agree, Assange is not part of THIS story.

Quote:
2) we can trust the metadata- GSTRING

It's FAR more reliable than the 'Russian keyboard' evidence, which you seem to believe. - KIKI

Did I say 'Russian keyboard' evidence?- GSTRING

Well, as usual, you never say much of anything. But if you "believe" that this was a hack, by (a) Russian(s), then you're choosing to believe the supposition that the charactcers were originally Cyrillic.

Quote:
3) even IF it was taken by thumb drive that means it wasn't a hack. - GSTRING

That's exactly the point of the article. It wasn't a hack.- KIKI

Right - You and Signym are assuming (i.e.; trying to make bullish*t float) if it WAS taken by thumb drive it WASN'T a hack. Keep turning those old, rusty wheels. Perhaps more box wine will help?- GSTRING

So RUSSIANS got direct DNC server access? Is that what you're trying to say? - KIKI

Yes, GSTRING, is that what you're trying to say? A Russian snuck into the DNC server room, logged in using .... who knows what .... and copied files to a thumb drive?

Quote:
4)People can gain access to the DNC besides DNC staffers. To assume server event logs are tamper proof is silly.- Should I re-type that? Here: "To assume server event logs are tamper proof is silly." GSTRING

I already addressed that in my post. Learn to read, willya???

Hubby has seen only one instance where the event logs were modified, and that was a high-level academic espionage case. In that case, the hacker went back and erased the part of the log where the hack entered. Which, as I said, left a small gap in the event log.

Now, if someone can modify the event log to erase something, they can probably modify the event log to fill in that gap with probable-looking events. However, what YOU'RE saying is that the Rooskies were SO SMART that they modified the event log, but left Cyrillic fingerprints all over the files? EPIC LOGIC FAIL.

But you're confusing the event log for the file metadata. Same deal for the metadata attached to each file. Yeah, sure, you might go in and diddle each file (and that's a lot of files!) but then why leave your fingerprints all over them? ANOTHER epic logic fail.

You're grasping at straws. The conclusion rests on only one weak point: The source of the report is anonymous, and if we're to accept the conclusion we have to trust that the author of the report is honest.

----------
By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
it is a pretty bag of nothing - just enough smoke and mystery to be a DISTRACTION.

Like the whole Russia narrative, huh?

REAVERFAN

Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:57 AM

Manafort lied. That's why he got raided. Simple. They're all in deep doo doo.

"All of this is to say that if Manafort’s contract did indeed “greatly benefit the Putin Government,” it was nothing out of the ordinary. The problem isn’t that he might have done the work for Putin. The problem is that the ordinary when it comes to Westerners doing business with the Russians—as well as other non-democratic governments—is a murky universe, where American actors are not always on the right side of the law and Western ideas of morality. The problem is that Manafort was running a campaign that hammered Clinton and her family foundation for doing much of what Manafort himself had done for decades, and that he was arguably as corrupt as his candidate said Clinton was. The problem is that the government in question had, according to 17 U.S. intelligence agencies, been actively hacking the Clinton campaign and aiding the Trump one. The problem is that Manafort and the Trump administration have repeatedly lied about Manafort’s work. There would’ve been a problem had they come clean early on—it’s not a good look for a populist, drain-the-swamp, America First candidate—but the problem is so much bigger now that the lies are now compounded, magnified by the truth. And this is classic Trump: dissemble and deny as long as you can, and even after you can. And it’s classic Manafort: It’s not clear how much he did to “greatly benefit the Putin Government,” but he certainly did no favors for the Trump Government."

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/03/much-ado-abo
ut-manafort/520743/

SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:19 PM

Say, did you guys hear about one of Mueller's investigative attorneys, actually a director of one of the sections (I forget which) was demoted by Mueller for some reason - from Director to Human Resources.

Come on guys, this is juicy. And none of you picked up on this? You guys are slipping. What Fox asleep at the wheel? Breitbart can't keep up?
What gives? What's the deal?

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You know, I find this rather curious. It's been two days since the news broke regarding the raid of Manafort's home by the FBI. Yet here we are, and no mention of it by anyone, not even our resident Russia-phobes.

It's been all over the MSM Libtard news. You guys are slipping!
What, Fox forgot their headline busters? Later, I'm going to go watch Fox to see what they have to say about the latest development.

Trump, of course, praised Manafort as a good man. Meanwhile, he continues to bash McConnell. Good, the rats are slowly abandoning ship.

SGG

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, August 18, 2017 2:38 PM

You get it G, you know who I'm talking about. They think they know everything and yet here we are. I mention this to try and be thorough, and complete in my coverage of this story.

The Russian Investigation. It ain't over!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Say, did you guys hear about one of Mueller's investigative attorneys, actually a director of one of the sections (I forget which) was demoted by Mueller for some reason - from Director to Human Resources.

Come on guys, this is juicy. And none of you picked up on this? You guys are slipping. What Fox asleep at the wheel? Breitbart can't keep up?
What gives? What's the deal?

They're too busy chasing the jorts burglar who they know is Hillary Clinton wearing Ukrainian flag jorts.

==============================

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, August 19, 2017 1:28 PM

Hey there Comrades,

Finally got some more info regarding the Special Counsel demotion of an FBI Counter-intelligence director. His name is Peter Strzok, who is now working in Human Resources in the FBI.

Now, why is the trickier part. Two rumors as to why.

1- Something to do with the DOJ's investigation into the Clinton e-mails;
2- Could be in response to the leak about Paul Manafort's FBI raid July 26.

If it's number two, it will be the first time there's a chink in the armor of the SC's office. Anyway, seems like Mueller is running a tight ship.

SGG

KPO

Friday, February 23, 2018 8:44 PM

Rick Gates, dodgy business partner and deputy to Manafort in the Trump campaign, pleads guilty and cooperates with Mueller.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/us/politics/rick-gates-guilty-plea-
mueller-investigation.html

I was wrong when I said that Manafort was the "first rotten domino" to fall, he's the last - the last before Trump. And it looks like Gates is the one before Manafort

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, February 23, 2018 9:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey there Comrades,

Finally got some more info regarding the Special Counsel demotion of an FBI Counter-intelligence director. His name is Peter Strzok, who is now working in Human Resources in the FBI.

Now, why is the trickier part. Two rumors as to why.

1- Something to do with the DOJ's investigation into the Clinton e-mails;
2- Could be in response to the leak about Paul Manafort's FBI raid July 26.

If it's number two, it will be the first time there's a chink in the armor of the SC's office. Anyway, seems like Mueller is running a tight ship.

SGG

Saw this little nugget of info from August, with Spin attached to defray the damage.

KPO

Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:51 PM

Judge: Manafort could face ‘rest of life in prison.’

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/13/judge-manafort-could-face-re
st-of-life-in-prison-460302

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey there Comrades,

Finally got some more info regarding the Special Counsel demotion of an FBI Counter-intelligence director. His name is Peter Strzok, who is now working in Human Resources in the FBI.

Now, why is the trickier part. Two rumors as to why.

1- Something to do with the DOJ's investigation into the Clinton e-mails;
2- Could be in response to the leak about Paul Manafort's FBI raid July 26.

If it's number two, it will be the first time there's a chink in the armor of the SC's office. Anyway, seems like Mueller is running a tight ship.

SGG
Saw this little nugget of info from August, with Spin attached to defray the damage.

Ummm.
Somehow I forgot to point out Mueller's "tight ship" has more leaks than a colander - each leak a Felony. Mueller's team of Libtards is committing more crimes than any of the proposed Witches they are Hunting.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Ummm.
Somehow I forgot to point out Mueller's "tight ship" has more leaks than a colander - each leak a Felony. Mueller's team of Libtards is committing more crimes than any of the proposed Witches they are Hunting.

I think you forget about the diligence and persistence and cleverness of a Free Press. There are ways to find out what a legal body like Mueller's may be up to/is up to without it necessarily coming from someone inside. I'm not saying that I KNOW that there are no leaks, just unless you KNOW there are, you shouldn't assume - is that fair? Please provide cites to back up your claim to the contrary.

Mueller is a registered Republican btw, so unless Republicans are the New Libtards, you've missed that one by a few million parsecs.

Also - you have no idea how many crimes the proposed Witches they are Hunting have committed, do you?

THGRRI

Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Ummm.
Somehow I forgot to point out Mueller's "tight ship" has more leaks than a colander - each leak a Felony. Mueller's team of Libtards is committing more crimes than any of the proposed Witches they are Hunting.

I think you forget about the diligence and persistence and cleverness of a Free Press. There are ways to find out what a legal body like Mueller's may be up to/is up to without it necessarily coming from someone inside. I'm not saying that I KNOW that there are no leaks, just unless you KNOW there are, you shouldn't assume - is that fair? Please provide cites to back up your claim to the contrary.

Mueller is a registered Republican btw, so unless Republicans are the New Libtards, you've missed that one by a few million parsecs.

Also - you have no idea how many crimes the proposed Witches they are Hunting have committed, do you?

There are no leaks coming from Mueller's team. JSF is just posting bullshit. We've both seen enough evidence to realize nothing JSF says makes sense or is anything more than trolling. Nothing JSF posts if even understood, can be believed.

The only felonies here are the ones Mueller is charging Trumps cronies with. Tick tock...

T

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:09 PM

Right now Manafort is fighting the "stupid" fight.

Two theories: 1- He's afraid of what Putin's crew might do to him
2- He'll sing like a canary when it gets closer to trial date (the one in July)

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
Judge: Manafort could face ‘rest of life in prison.’

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/13/judge-manafort-could-face-re
st-of-life-in-prison-460302

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SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:13 PM

Okay Jewels, I'll bite:

What Leaks? exactly...and
What Felonies? specifically

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey there Comrades,

Finally got some more info regarding the Special Counsel demotion of an FBI Counter-intelligence director. His name is Peter Strzok, who is now working in Human Resources in the FBI.

Now, why is the trickier part. Two rumors as to why.

1- Something to do with the DOJ's investigation into the Clinton e-mails;
2- Could be in response to the leak about Paul Manafort's FBI raid July 26.

If it's number two, it will be the first time there's a chink in the armor of the SC's office. Anyway, seems like Mueller is running a tight ship.

SGG
Saw this little nugget of info from August, with Spin attached to defray the damage.
Ummm.
Somehow I forgot to point out Mueller's "tight ship" has more leaks than a colander - each leak a Felony. Mueller's team of Libtards is committing more crimes than any of the proposed Witches they are Hunting.

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:16 PM

Yeah, what he said.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Ummm.
Somehow I forgot to point out Mueller's "tight ship" has more leaks than a colander - each leak a Felony. Mueller's team of Libtards is committing more crimes than any of the proposed Witches they are Hunting.

I think you forget about the diligence and persistence and cleverness of a Free Press. There are ways to find out what a legal body like Mueller's may be up to/is up to without it necessarily coming from someone inside. I'm not saying that I KNOW that there are no leaks, just unless you KNOW there are, you shouldn't assume - is that fair? Please provide cites to back up your claim to the contrary.

Mueller is a registered Republican btw, so unless Republicans are the New Libtards, you've missed that one by a few million parsecs.

Also - you have no idea how many crimes the proposed Witches they are Hunting have committed, do you?

KPO

Friday, June 15, 2018 10:20 PM

Manafort goes to jail

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/judge-sends-paul-manafort-
to-jail-pending-trial/index.html

Sing, little traitor, sing.

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JJ

Friday, June 15, 2018 10:27 PM

T

REAVERFAN

Friday, June 15, 2018 10:43 PM

What will the reichwing peanut gallery say, now?

"But... But... Hillary!"

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:03 AM

He ain't my daddy.

Wow. Three "Don't give a shits" today. Good job guys and gals.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, June 16, 2018 1:51 PM

And I'm still waiting for an answer from Jewels...........

What Leaks...?
What Felonies...?

I'll wait. Specifics now, as Sig/Keeks would say...links please!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Okay Jewels, I'll bite:

What Leaks? exactly...and
What Felonies? specifically

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey there Comrades,

Finally got some more info regarding the Special Counsel demotion of an FBI Counter-intelligence director. His name is Peter Strzok, who is now working in Human Resources in the FBI.

Now, why is the trickier part. Two rumors as to why.

1- Something to do with the DOJ's investigation into the Clinton e-mails;
2- Could be in response to the leak about Paul Manafort's FBI raid July 26.

If it's number two, it will be the first time there's a chink in the armor of the SC's office. Anyway, seems like Mueller is running a tight ship.

SGG
Saw this little nugget of info from August, with Spin attached to defray the damage.
Ummm.
Somehow I forgot to point out Mueller's "tight ship" has more leaks than a colander - each leak a Felony. Mueller's team of Libtards is committing more crimes than any of the proposed Witches they are Hunting.

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, June 16, 2018 1:53 PM

Crickets!!!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He ain't my daddy.

Wow. Three "Don't give a shits" today. Good job guys and gals.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, June 16, 2018 1:54 PM

The Sound of Silence is deafening!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
What will the reichwing peanut gallery say, now?

"But... But... Hillary!"

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, June 16, 2018 2:04 PM

Here's the thing KPO...

All the little trumpsters, and all the little RBSA's, and all the little trolls, and all the little fake news piggies can't deal when it comes to the Rule of Law.

Tonight Manafort is wearing orange pajamas, and will be incarcerated for Father's Day, GOOD!!!

Now, if Trump pardons him, then Mueller will be smiling from ear to ear. Oh! It
gets better........

Justice is sometimes blind, but every once in a while you have to pay the piper.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
Manafort goes to jail

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/judge-sends-paul-manafort-
to-jail-pending-trial/index.html

Sing, little traitor, sing.

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SECOND

Saturday, June 16, 2018 4:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's the thing KPO...

All the little trumpsters, and all the little RBSA's, and all the little trolls, and all the little fake news piggies can't deal when it comes to the Rule of Law.

Tonight Manafort is wearing orange pajamas, and will be incarcerated for Father's Day, GOOD!!!

Now, if Trump pardons him, then Mueller will be smiling from ear to ear. Oh! It
gets better........

Justice is sometimes blind, but every once in a while you have to pay the piper.

SGG

One person, Judge Amy Berman Jackson, revoked Manafort's bail. Imagine if it took 67 judges to revoke Manafort's bail. That is actually the case for Trump. His judges will be a huge group, the Senate, and a majority of them are related to Trump by political party. Until 67 Senators, the minimum to impeach, are not Republicans, there will be no justice.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, June 16, 2018 5:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Crickets!!!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He ain't my daddy.

Wow. Three "Don't give a shits" today. Good job guys and gals.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Crickets?

I've made it abundantly clear that I have no skin in this game.

Almost 2 years have gone by since I voted the dude in and he hasn't done shit for me.

Here's a tip. Hillary would have let you down too.

Do what I do. Improve thyself.

Cause ain't none of those rich sociopaths on either side ever going to do anything for you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JJ

Saturday, June 16, 2018 6:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's the thing KPO...

All the little trumpsters, and all the little RBSA's, and all the little trolls, and all the little fake news piggies can't deal when it comes to the Rule of Law.

Tonight Manafort is wearing orange pajamas, and will be incarcerated for Father's Day, GOOD!!!

Now, if Trump pardons him, then Mueller will be smiling from ear to ear. Oh! It
gets better........

Justice is sometimes blind, but every once in a while you have to pay the piper.

SGG
One person, Judge Amy Berman Jackson, revoked Manafort's bail. Imagine if it took 67 judges to revoke Manafort's bail. That is actually the case for Trump. His judges will be a huge group, the Senate, and a majority of them are related to Trump by political party. Until 67 Senators, the minimum to impeach, are not Republicans, there will be no justice.

No way to know what's going to happen. Much I think will be determined not only on the November elections, but on Mueller's report and who else falls under his ax and why.

T

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:13 AM

I keep hearing reports that the jail Manafort is being sent to (slept in last night) is a rough one, that he will be surrounded by cock roaches and some pretty hard, real criminals. Not white collar stock cheats. My wife has been certain for some time that he's going to commit suicide. It freaks me out a little at her certainty. One thing is for sure, this is not how he will want to spend the rest of his days, so whether by offing himself or flipping, this isn't going to last long (my best guess).
And you have to know that Cohen is seeing this on tv as well. The prospect of life in prison might seem so extreme that you can't even deal with thinking about it until you are there for 24 hours or hear about someone else in your situation and what they are going through. Cohen has a wife and a daughter, and deep down he knows Trump wouldn't risk as much for him as he would for Trump. Guess we'll see how far that loyalty takes him. I'm thinking by the end of next week they both turn.

JJ

Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I keep hearing reports that the jail Manafort is being sent to (slept in last night) is a rough one, that he will be surrounded by cock roaches and some pretty hard, real criminals. Not white collar stock cheats. My wife has been certain for some time that he's going to commit suicide. It freaks me out a little at her certainty. One thing is for sure, this is not how he will want to spend the rest of his days, so whether by offing himself or flipping, this isn't going to last long (my best guess).

And you have to know that Cohen is seeing this on tv as well. The prospect of life in prison might seem so extreme that you can't even deal with thinking about it until you are there for 24 hours or hear about someone else in your situation and what they are going through. Cohen has a wife and a daughter, and deep down he knows Trump wouldn't risk as much for him as he would for Trump. Guess we'll see how far that loyalty takes him. I'm thinking by the end of next week they both turn.

His inmate number is 45343 and he will no longer be weareing 4 thousand dollar suits. Nope, it's a prison issued jump suit from now on.

tick tock Trump, tick tock

T

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:34 AM

You are probably right about Trump possibly getting away with it. He very well
may slip through the cracks.

I get this funny feeling that Mueller has a contingency plan for Trump and
company. Manafort and Cohen may not survive this next round, and even if Trump pardons them, there's more to come.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's the thing KPO...

All the little trumpsters, and all the little RBSA's, and all the little trolls, and all the little fake news piggies can't deal when it comes to the Rule of Law.

Tonight Manafort is wearing orange pajamas, and will be incarcerated for Father's Day, GOOD!!!

Now, if Trump pardons him, then Mueller will be smiling from ear to ear. Oh! It
gets better........

Justice is sometimes blind, but every once in a while you have to pay the piper.

SGG
One person, Judge Amy Berman Jackson, revoked Manafort's bail. Imagine if it took 67 judges to revoke Manafort's bail. That is actually the case for Trump. His judges will be a huge group, the Senate, and a majority of them are related to Trump by political party. Until 67 Senators, the minimum to impeach, are not Republicans, there will be no justice.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:37 AM

I would take Hilary any day over that sleaze Trump. At least it would still be
America, and not the German High Command.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Crickets!!!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He ain't my daddy.

Wow. Three "Don't give a shits" today. Good job guys and gals.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Crickets?

I've made it abundantly clear that I have no skin in this game.

Almost 2 years have gone by since I voted the dude in and he hasn't done shit for me.

Here's a tip. Hillary would have let you down too.

Do what I do. Improve thyself.

Cause ain't none of those rich sociopaths on either side ever going to do anything for you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:40 AM

These guys think they're tough. They WILL crack under the pressure.

SGG

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Originally posted by JJ:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I keep hearing reports that the jail Manafort is being sent to (slept in last night) is a rough one, that he will be surrounded by cock roaches and some pretty hard, real criminals. Not white collar stock cheats. My wife has been certain for some time that he's going to commit suicide. It freaks me out a little at her certainty. One thing is for sure, this is not how he will want to spend the rest of his days, so whether by offing himself or flipping, this isn't going to last long (my best guess).

And you have to know that Cohen is seeing this on tv as well. The prospect of life in prison might seem so extreme that you can't even deal with thinking about it until you are there for 24 hours or hear about someone else in your situation and what they are going through. Cohen has a wife and a daughter, and deep down he knows Trump wouldn't risk as much for him as he would for Trump. Guess we'll see how far that loyalty takes him. I'm thinking by the end of next week they both turn.

His inmate number is 45343 and he will no longer be weareing 4 thousand dollar suits. Nope, it's a prison issued jump suit from now on.

tick tock Trump, tick tock

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 19, 2018 6:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I would take Hilary any day over that sleaze Trump. At least it would still be
America, and not the German High Command.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Crickets!!!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He ain't my daddy.

Wow. Three "Don't give a shits" today. Good job guys and gals.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Crickets?

I've made it abundantly clear that I have no skin in this game.

Almost 2 years have gone by since I voted the dude in and he hasn't done shit for me.

Here's a tip. Hillary would have let you down too.

Do what I do. Improve thyself.

Cause ain't none of those rich sociopaths on either side ever going to do anything for you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Hyperbole much?

You insult everyone who lived in Germany in the 40's, as well as anyone in the world who fought and/or died in that war.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Wednesday, June 20, 2018 1:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JJ:
His inmate number is 45343 and he will no longer be weareing 4 thousand dollar suits. Nope, it's a prison issued jump suit from now on.

tick tock Trump, tick tock

I think you should read these indictments - the genuine originals - rather than continue to steep your brain in US media swill.
https://www.justice.gov/sco

You'll find that in regards to the non-Russian nationals like Manafort, zero charges have anything to do with Trump or the election.

SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, June 20, 2018 2:55 PM

Reports are that Manafort, who has not been convicted of anything, is in Solitary Confinement.

By now, it has become painfully obvious that Mueller has not a humane, just, honest, or Integrity bone in his body.