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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 3, 2018 10:58 PM

lol...

Come on man. "Jew Killer" is what you just used several times. That actually makes me cringe 10 times as much as "Nazi" which hardly phases me at all since you hear the word in almost every political argument today.

Again, I'll make the point that there is absolutely no need to link Soros to this when making an argument against him.

Even I will argue against you about his status regarding this. He was 8 years old when World War II started. Maybe his old man sat him down and told him just to do what they were telling him to do and those were the last words he said to his son before he was carried off on a train and never seen again.

What happened in Soros's life at that early age has nothing to do with what he did in his adult life and only serves to derail the conversation.

Which is what you did, and for some reason continue to do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JJ

Sunday, June 3, 2018 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, it's ridiculous to compare the amount of money that a central bank can commit to defending its currency to the entire national GDP. Do you think a nation should- or even can- commit its entire GDP to defending its currency?

They didn't call it "breaking the Bank of England" for nothing, and the day afterwards wasn't called "Black Wednesday" for nothing, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Soros' bet against the British pound simply meant that he was willing and able to toss more (borrowed) money to SINK the British pound than the Bank of England was able to spend supporting it. This wasn't a simple "bet" by a bystander on an event over which he has no control, like betting on a basketball game: Soros deliberately pushed the pound over the edge to make his bet come true.

The loss in currency value affected every single Britain, and specifically the British taxpayer, to the tune of roughly (Great Britain Pound) GBP3 billion, or, at the time, about GPB200 for every family in Great Britain. Soros' gain was their direct loss; and since there wasn't an "exchange" of anything ... Soros did not provide a good or service the the British .... it was a simple money-grab on his part, blessed by the "rules of the game" which allow the wealthy elite to steal money from everyone else.

*****

SIX is pointing to a more general problem, which is the extreme gap in power which goes along with the extreme gap in wealth. The extremely wealthy elite .... the top (roughly) 500 people in the world ... through sheer economic power can determine where the jobs are, what a national wage scale is, whether or not a government will be allowed to stand or will suffer financial and existential economic warfare, mass migrations, what will be "invested in" (infrastructure? education and health? sweatshops? agriculture?) and subsequent living standards etc. In addition, they control the media (So much for a "free" press! HA!) and politicians. America really IS an oligarchy, and the only reason why we have not been totally crushed under its weight (so far) is because our living standard has been artificially enhanced because our dollar is the world reserve currency (so far), and we - like the oligarchs - can use our dollar to buy global stuff for which we provide no real equivalent exchange of goods or services.

Sell it elsewhere sig. I only read short excerpts of yours because your posts are full of bullshit and nonsense. Soros was one of many many speculators around the globe that bet against the euro. You post here like he broke the bank on his own. Why, because you have an agenda comrade. To troll....

T

SECOND

Monday, June 4, 2018 12:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

They didn't call it "breaking the Bank of England" for nothing, and the day afterwards wasn't called "Black Wednesday" for nothing, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Soros' bet against the British pound simply meant that he was willing and able to toss more (borrowed) money to SINK the British pound than the Bank of England was able to spend supporting it. This wasn't a simple "bet" by a bystander on an event over which he has no control, like betting on a basketball game: Soros deliberately pushed the pound over the edge to make his bet come true.

The loss in currency value affected every single Britain, and specifically the British taxpayer, to the tune of roughly (Great Britain Pound) GBP3 billion, or, at the time, about GPB200 for every family in Great Britain. Soros' gain was their direct loss; and since there wasn't an "exchange" of anything ... Soros did not provide a good or service the the British .... it was a simple money-grab on his part, blessed by the "rules of the game" which allow the wealthy elite to steal money from everyone else.

The UK Treasury could have made a £2.4 billion profit on the pound sterling's devaluation, but Soros bet that the UK was too stupid. The UK turned a chance of a huge profit into an actual loss £3.3 billion. Soros could made his money in complete secrecy, but for many months ahead of Black Wednesday, Soros very loudly and clearly told the UK Treasury what he was doing, what the Treasury was doing wrong, and yet the Treasury kept doing the wrong thing, anyway, out of misplaced pride in their own intellect. If they had listened to Soros, they could have made billions. But noooo! All the blame should go to Norman Lamont (Chancellor of the Exchequer) and Robin Leigh-Pemberton (Governor of the Bank of England), two dimwits. Neither dimwit accepted blame. Instead, they blamed Soros.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JJ

Monday, June 4, 2018 12:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

They didn't call it "breaking the Bank of England" for nothing, and the day afterwards wasn't called "Black Wednesday" for nothing, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Soros' bet against the British pound simply meant that he was willing and able to toss more (borrowed) money to SINK the British pound than the Bank of England was able to spend supporting it. This wasn't a simple "bet" by a bystander on an event over which he has no control, like betting on a basketball game: Soros deliberately pushed the pound over the edge to make his bet come true.

The loss in currency value affected every single Britain, and specifically the British taxpayer, to the tune of roughly (Great Britain Pound) GBP3 billion, or, at the time, about GPB200 for every family in Great Britain. Soros' gain was their direct loss; and since there wasn't an "exchange" of anything ... Soros did not provide a good or service the the British .... it was a simple money-grab on his part, blessed by the "rules of the game" which allow the wealthy elite to steal money from everyone else.
The UK Treasury could have made a £2.4 billion profit on the pound sterling's devaluation, but Soros bet that the UK was too stupid. The UK turned a chance of a huge profit into an actual loss £3.3 billion. Soros could made his money in complete secrecy, but for many months ahead of Black Wednesday, Soros very loudly and clearly told the UK Treasury what he was doing, what the Treasury was doing wrong, and yet the Treasury kept doing the wrong thing, anyway, out of misplaced pride in their own intellect. If they had listened to Soros, they could have made billions. But noooo! All the blame should go to Norman Lamont (Chancellor of the Exchequer) and Robin Leigh-Pemberton (Governor of the Bank of England), two dimwits. Neither dimwit accepted blame. Instead, they blamed Soros.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]

Another sig conspiracy theory destroyed. Question, will she move on, post one more trollish response, or ignore yours and my last posts SECOND? At any rate she sure is a piece of work.

T

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, June 4, 2018 12:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

They didn't call it "breaking the Bank of England" for nothing, and the day afterwards wasn't called "Black Wednesday" for nothing, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Soros' bet against the British pound simply meant that he was willing and able to toss more (borrowed) money to SINK the British pound than the Bank of England was able to spend supporting it. This wasn't a simple "bet" by a bystander on an event over which he has no control, like betting on a basketball game: Soros deliberately pushed the pound over the edge to make his bet come true.

The loss in currency value affected every single Britain, and specifically the British taxpayer, to the tune of roughly (Great Britain Pound) GBP3 billion, or, at the time, about GPB200 for every family in Great Britain. Soros' gain was their direct loss; and since there wasn't an "exchange" of anything ... Soros did not provide a good or service the the British .... it was a simple money-grab on his part, blessed by the "rules of the game" which allow the wealthy elite to steal money from everyone else.
The UK Treasury could have made a £2.4 billion profit on the pound sterling's devaluation, but Soros bet that the UK was too stupid. The UK turned a chance of a huge profit into an actual loss £3.3 billion. Soros could made his money in complete secrecy, but for many months ahead of Black Wednesday, Soros very loudly and clearly told the UK Treasury what he was doing, what the Treasury was doing wrong, and yet the Treasury kept doing the wrong thing, anyway, out of misplaced pride in their own intellect. If they had listened to Soros, they could have made billions. But noooo! All the blame should go to Norman Lamont (Chancellor of the Exchequer) and Robin Leigh-Pemberton (Governor of the Bank of England), two dimwits. Neither dimwit accepted blame. Instead, they blamed Soros.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Democrats are incapable of having discussions about money and winning them.

Honestly, you and T should go back to complaining about Trump.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Monday, June 4, 2018 2:57 AM

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Soros very loudly and clearly told the UK Treasury what he was doing, what the Treasury was doing wrong,

Links please.

Also, you have not addressed my point about the imbalance of wealth and power:

Quote:
SIX is pointing to a more general problem, which is the extreme gap in power which goes along with the extreme gap in wealth. The extremely wealthy elite .... the top (roughly) 500 people in the world ... through sheer economic power can determine where the jobs are, what a national wage scale is, whether or not a government will be allowed to stand or will suffer financial and existential economic warfare, mass migrations, what will be "invested in" (infrastructure? education and health? sweatshops? agriculture?) and subsequent living standards etc. In addition, they control the media (So much for a "free" press! HA!) and politicians. America really IS an oligarchy, and the only reason why we have not been totally crushed under its weight (so far) is because our living standard has been artificially enhanced because our dollar is the world reserve currency (so far), and we - like the oligarchs - can use our dollar to buy global stuff for which we provide no real equivalent exchange of goods or services.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

SECOND

Monday, June 4, 2018 3:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
you have not addressed my point about the imbalance of wealth and power

I googled Did Einstein save letters from cranks? No. "After several hundred of these things you get into that mode," said Dr. Ian Stewart, a mathematician at Warwick University in England. "It has to do with your self-preservation. The writers of these letters range from pretty good amateur mathematicians who have made a mistake somewhere or skipped over an important step to people who are completely mad," he said. Signym, you are a crank.
www.nytimes.com/1999/02/09/science/genius-or-gibberish-the-strange-wor
ld-of-the-math-crank.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, June 4, 2018 3:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Soros very loudly and clearly told the UK Treasury what he was doing, what the Treasury was doing wrong,
Links please.

Also, you have not addressed my point about the imbalance of wealth and power:

Quote:
SIX is pointing to a more general problem, which is the extreme gap in power which goes along with the extreme gap in wealth. The extremely wealthy elite .... the top (roughly) 500 people in the world ... through sheer economic power can determine where the jobs are, what a national wage scale is, whether or not a government will be allowed to stand or will suffer financial and existential economic warfare, mass migrations, what will be "invested in" (infrastructure? education and health? sweatshops? agriculture?) and subsequent living standards etc. In addition, they control the media (So much for a "free" press! HA!) and politicians. America really IS an oligarchy, and the only reason why we have not been totally crushed under its weight (so far) is because our living standard has been artificially enhanced because our dollar is the world reserve currency (so far), and we - like the oligarchs - can use our dollar to buy global stuff for which we provide no real equivalent exchange of goods or services.

Don't hold your breath on those links or getting Second to actually give you a response to what you're waiting for.

Expect his next reply to either be a quote of one sentence of your post followed by an insult and then a 10 paragraph segway with unrelated links, or maybe it will be a quote of my comment here followed insults and then a segway into 10 unrelated paragraphs and more unrelated links.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

EDITED TO ADD:

He beat my post by a few seconds...

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
you have not addressed my point about the imbalance of wealth and power
I googled Did Einstein save letters from cranks? No. "After several hundred of these things you get into that mode," said Dr. Ian Stewart, a mathematician at Warwick University in England. "It has to do with your self-preservation. The writers of these letters range from pretty good amateur mathematicians who have made a mistake somewhere or skipped over an important step to people who are completely mad," he said. Signym, you are a crank.
www.nytimes.com/1999/02/09/science/genius-or-gibberish-the-strange-wor
ld-of-the-math-crank.html

I was right about everything, but he managed to keep this segway shorter than usual. Let's see how he handles the reply to me.

JJ

Monday, June 4, 2018 4:26 AM

Sig and Jack can best be described as dumb and dumber.

T

Trump’s Presidency Is Built Upon Double Standards

A record of falsehoods and misdeeds that never would have been countenanced before.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-06-03/trump-s-presidency-
is-built-upon-double-standards

SIGNYM

Monday, June 4, 2018 5:25 AM

Quote:
you have not addressed my point about the imbalance of wealth and power ... SIGNY

I googled Did Einstein save letters from cranks?- SECOND

Nor have you addressed my request for links to support your contention that Soros was shouting into the wind about what the BoE was doing "wrong".

Just to show you what other people think of Soros, there is this ...
The context is that Italy has just formed a Euroskeptic government of combined Northern League and 5 Star Movement appointees. (There are other populist movements in Europe as well.)

Quote:
A feud has broken out between liberal billionaire activist and fervent Clinton supporter, George Soros, and Italy's anti-immigrant League party, which on Friday formed a populist movement in coalition with the 5-Star party, and whose leader Matteo Salvini stepped into his new job as Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior on Friday, pledging to deport hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants.

Salvini's League and the 5-Star Movement struck a deal Thursday on a coalition government which will work towards "putting Italians first" (and potentially making life for Europe a living hell with the ongoing threat of Quitaly, which according to JPMorgan may be Rome's best outcome), ending five days of market volatility and political chaos.

In response, George Soros flipped out, openly suggesting that Salvini might be financed by Vladimir Putin, saying he is "very worried about Russia's influence on Europe in general and on the new Italian government."

RUSSIA!! RUSSIA!! RUSSIA!! Sheesh. Like the flood of hundreds of thousands of immigrants didn't cause this reaction?

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"I do not know if Salvini was funded by Moscow, but the public has a right to know" said Soros.

Seems like the popular response is to blame Russia for your own fuckups.

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Soros translated: Any government who puts their citizens ahead of migrants is now a Putin puppet.

The League's economics policy chief, Claudio Borghi hit back against Soros, stating (translated):

"Soros worried by the Italian government? Then it means that we are going in the right direction... We understand that those who have speculated for years on the skin of immigrants, financing NGOs and smugglers to invade Italy. The wind has changed for [Soros] and for all those who have profited from the deaths of hundreds of people."

Soros also admits in Italy's Corriere della Sera newspaper that the League's growing influence is a reflection on "Europe's flawed migration policies that imposed an unfair burden on Italy." His solution? Instead of resettling the migrants, the EU needs to pay Italy.

“It follows from the voluntary principle that the problem ... cannot be addressed by forced resettlement, but only by the EU financially compensating Italy for the migrants that land there,” wrote Soros, who also warned “There is a strong inclination in Europe to use the occasion [of the new government] to teach Italy a lesson ... If the EU follows this line, it will dig its own grave by provoking a negative response from the Italian electorate, which would then re-elect Movimento 5 Stelle and Lega Nord with an increased majority.”

Italy is far from the first European nation to reject Soros's open border ideology.

Most markedly, Hungary’s prime minister, Viktor Orbán, based his successful re-election campaign this year on attacking a supposed “Soros plan” to flood Hungary with Muslim migrants. In his opinion piece, Soros rubbishes the accusation as “false and ridiculous”.

He said: “Forcibly relocating [migrants] to other countries is neither possible nor desirable. Other countries, particularly Poland and Hungary, would strenuously resist ... I have always advocated that the allocation of refugees within Europe should be entirely voluntary.” -The Guardian

Poland and the Czech Republic have also notably resisted Soros's policies.

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