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Monday, June 4, 2018 5:30 AM

SIX, this defense of Soros is because Soros is the backup plan for globalists/ R2Pers/ liberaloids who think that the solution to poverty is "helping" the poor, instead of reconfiguring the system so that so many people aren't driven into poverty in the first place.

I think SECOND's problem is that he knows the Democratic party has fucked up, and he's hoping that Soros is going to be his Secret Santa and fund SECOND's pet projects.

*****

But hey! Any time anyone wants to get off the Soros-topic and back to "Trump is a troll" just let me know!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Monday, June 4, 2018 5:54 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, this defense of Soros is because Soros is the backup plan for globalists/ R2Pers/ liberaloids who think that the solution to poverty is "helping" the poor, instead of reconfiguring the system so that so many people aren't driven into poverty in the first place.

I think SECOND's problem is that he knows the Democratic party has fucked up, and he's hoping that Soros is going to be his Secret Santa and fund SECOND's pet projects.

*****

But hey! Any time anyone wants to get off the Soros-topic and back to "Trump is a troll" just let me know!

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

Sorry, Signym, but I know what direction you are headed. You have a semi-theory to explain the world's problems and I know where it leads: George Soros and his ilk will take over the world unless this country has a strong leader like Donald Trump/Vladimir Putin/Viktor Orbán/Silvio Berlusconi/Margaret Thatcher. You are a crank, Signym, one of millions who believe in the strong leaders (aka Deus ex Machina) to magically solve the people's problems without the people understanding and doing the work of solving. The people only have to vote for the right person and then passively watch the miracle happen.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 4, 2018 6:08 AM

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George Soros and his ilk will take the rest of the top 500 have already taken over the world
Fixed it for you.

I have NEVER claimed that we need a "strong leader".

And gee, it sure would be nice if you would STOP LYING ABOUT WHAT I POSTED. I mean shit, son, if you have to lie so much to make your point, maybe you don't have one.

What I HAVE claimed is that we need to put decision-making capacity closer to the people who are actually being affected by those decisions. If that means moving that capacity out of secret international trade tribunals and banking consortia ... which btw are NOT democratically elected and over which the average person has no say whatsoever ... and back into the hands of a democratic national government, then so be it. Is it perfect? No, but it's a step in the right direction.

If that's anathema to you, SECOND, what's YOUR solution? Putting the top 0.001% in charge of everything? Making the powerful MORE powerful and MORE unreachable? Because that seems to be the horse that you're backing.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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JJ
Monday, June 4, 2018 7:20 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SIX, this defense of Soros is because Soros is the backup plan for globalists/ R2Pers/ liberaloids who think that the solution to poverty is "helping" the poor, instead of reconfiguring the system so that so many people aren't driven into poverty in the first place.

I think SECOND's problem is that he knows the Democratic party has fucked up, and he's hoping that Soros is going to be his Secret Santa and fund SECOND's pet projects.

*****

But hey! Any time anyone wants to get off the Soros-topic and back to "Trump is a troll" just let me know!


Sorry, Signym, but I know what direction you are headed. You have a semi-theory to explain the world's problems and I know where it leads: George Soros and his ilk will take over the world unless this country has a strong leader like Donald Trump/Vladimir Putin/Viktor Orbán/Silvio Berlusconi/Margaret Thatcher. You are a crank, Signym, one of millions who believe in the strong leaders (aka Deus ex Machina) to magically solve the people's problems without the people understanding and doing the work of solving. The people only have to vote for the right person and then passively watch the miracle happen.




Wonderfully said SECOND.

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Monday, June 4, 2018 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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George Soros and his ilk will take the rest of the top 500 have already taken over the world
Fixed it for you.

I have NEVER claimed that we need a "strong leader".

And gee, it sure would be nice if you would STOP LYING ABOUT WHAT I POSTED. I mean shit, son, if you have to lie so much to make your point, maybe you don't have one.

What I HAVE claimed is that we need to put decision-making capacity closer to the people who are actually being affected by those decisions. If that means moving that capacity out of secret international trade tribunals and banking consortia ... which btw are NOT democratically elected and over which the average person has no say whatsoever ... and back into the hands of a democratic national government, then so be it. Is it perfect? No, but it's a step in the right direction.

In pursuit of your goal, do you support the Convention of States to fix the mess?

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Monday, June 4, 2018 10:14 AM

"without the people understanding and doing the work of solving"

The wealthy have something the rest of us don't have: money, power, and control of our livelihoods. That makes any amount of 'work' to solve our problems moot. Especially since our problems are them - or, more pointedly - you.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jan/16/worlds-eigh
t-richest-people-have-same-wealth-as-poorest-50

World's eight richest people have same wealth as poorest 50%

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/06/the-richest-1-p
ercent-now-owns-more-of-the-countrys-wealth-than-at-any-time-in-the-past-50-years/?utm_term=.75465d3bccb3

The richest 1 percent now owns more of the country’s wealth than at any time in the past 50 years

https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/power/wealth.html
Wealth, Income, and Power






SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Monday, June 4, 2018 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"without the people understanding and doing the work of solving"

The wealthy have something the rest of us don't have: money, power, and control of our livelihoods. That makes any amount of 'work' to solve our problems moot. Especially since our problems are them - or, more pointedly - you.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jan/16/worlds-eigh
t-richest-people-have-same-wealth-as-poorest-50

World's eight richest people have same wealth as poorest 50%

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/06/the-richest-1-p
ercent-now-owns-more-of-the-countrys-wealth-than-at-any-time-in-the-past-50-years/?utm_term=.75465d3bccb3

The richest 1 percent now owns more of the country’s wealth than at any time in the past 50 years

https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/power/wealth.html
Wealth, Income, and Power

Yep, obviously that is what Obamabots wanted most: to lose even more buying power, Market power. That is clearly why they voted Obama twice, so he could do as he promised and concentrate more wealth among even fewer.

So, they got what they voted for. My heart does not bleed for those who achieved their goals.

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Monday, June 4, 2018 2:09 PM

But, he was a democrat ! There was a 'D' after his name. That HAD to be worth something!




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Monday, June 4, 2018 2:33 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
But, he was a democrat ! There was a 'D' after his name. That HAD to be worth something!

SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

Yes, that was worth the same Job Killing and Economy Destroying as the Ds before him. Carter gave us horrific inflation, and Clinton's first 2 years with D Congress (even though coasting upward on the Reaganomics jaugernaut) was runaway spending until GOP took Congress. JFK was a Fiscal Conservative, so he doesn't count as being in league with LBJ, or #39, #42, #44.

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Monday, June 4, 2018 5:24 PM

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In pursuit of your goal, do you support the Convention of States to fix the mess?
I have no idea. I never heard of this before, altho I see that there is info on the internet. Let me look it up and think about the possible consequences.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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