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The wiretap tweet IS true (update)

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 11, 2026 16:07
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Sunday, March 4, 2018 6:00 AM

This was posted 7 May 2017. It seems recent posts in this forum indicate the points made here were overlooked or discounted:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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President Obama's team sought NSA intel on thousands of Americans during the 2016 election
Because .... there were thousands of potential terrorists that he was tracking???

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During his final year in office, President Obama's team significantly expanded efforts to search National Security Agency intercepts for information about Americans, distributing thousands of intelligence reports across government with the unredacted names of U.S. residents during the midst of a divisive 2016 presidential election.
None of these people were surveilled with a warrant, and none of them have been shown to have done anything wrong. This is s clear violation of a plain reading of the Fourth Amendment.

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The data, made available this week by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, provides the clearest evidence to date of how information accidentally
AHEM!

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collected by the NSA overseas about Americans was subsequently searched and disseminated after President Obama loosened privacy protections
Broke the Fourth Amendment
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to make such sharing easier in 2011 in the name of national security. A court affirmed his order.

The revelations are particularly sensitive since the NSA is legally forbidden from directly spying on Americans and its authority to conduct warrantless searches on foreigners is up for renewal in Congress later this year. And it comes as lawmakers investigate President Trump's own claims that his privacy was violated by his predecessor during the 2016 election.

In all, government officials conducted 30,355 searches in 2016 seeking information about Americans in NSA intercept metadata, which include telephone numbers and email addresses. The activity amounted to a 27.5 percent increase over the prior year and more than triple the 9,500 such searches that occurred in 2013, the first year such data was kept.

Bullshit. NOT the first year such data was kept. Just the first year they had to admit to it.

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The government in 2016 also scoured the actual contents of NSA intercepted calls and emails for 5,288 Americans, an increase of 13 percent over the prior year and a massive spike from the 198 names searched in 2013.
Here's the difference between "metadata" and "content". If there is evidence in plain sight, it's not considered to need a warrant. Just like the address in the outside of an envelope is considered "plain sight", the "addresses" of emails and other electronic information was analogized by the courts to be "plain sight" (I disagree, but that's another story). OTOH, opening up a letter and reading the CONTENTS would require a warrant. Which, in thousands of cases, didn't happen under Obama.

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The searches ultimately resulted in 3,134 NSA intelligence reports with unredacted U.S. names being distributed across government in 2016, and another 3,354 reports in 2015. About half the time, U.S. identities were unredacted in the original reports while the other half were unmasked after the fact by special request of Obama administration officials.

Among those whose names were unmasked in 2016 or early 2017 were campaign or transition associates of President Trump as well as members of Congress and their staffers, according to sources with direct knowledge.

The CIA was caught snooping on the Senate Intelligence Committee a while back. Now the NSA has been caught snooping for political purposes as well. Who elected these assholes, anyway? Oh, that's right- nobody.

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The data kept by ODNI is missing some information from one of the largest consumers of NSA intelligence, the FBI, and officials acknowledge the numbers are likely much higher when the FBI’s activity is added.
More warr

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Tuesday, March 6, 2018 3:05 PM

Exactly. But trying to explain that to these "dense as a brick" right-wing conspiracy theorists is exhausting. Forrest Gump got more sense!


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So has everybody come to agree that the title of this thread is true?



It's absolute fact. Truth beyond all measure. The Obama admin ( Obama ) did in fact surveille ( wire tap ) Trump ( Trump Tower )

And further, this was done illegally, for strictly political purposes, under the guise of " national security ".

100% Hokum.


There's no other way to spin it.



What is absolutely true is stupid is forever. You can quote me on that.

Others were being surveilled. Like the Russians, ambassadors and such who are in this country. Those interacting with them get caught up in that surveillance. No way at all to prevent that. If nothing is afoul then nothing comes of it. If you work for our government and don't know that then as I've said, stupid is forever.

How many times does this have to be explained to you? Our intelligence agencies, FBI, CIA etc., have testified in front of congress about this. All said it was not true. The fact that you two continue to insist it still happened, tells the rest of us something about you isn't quite right.

Let me refer you back to the thread title. You'll notice it changed and was updated. That's because it was proven wrong so sig tweaked it to save face.
T

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Tuesday, March 6, 2018 3:10 PM

Saying it doesn't make it so. Why hasn't Congress indicted anyone, or held anyone in contempt of Congress? Where the fuck is the proof? Produce something concrete. You know, evidence.

Why doesn't the AG go after Obama if that's the case? He's a private citizen now, and Congress is filled to the brim with fucking right-wing members of the Good Ol' Boys Club.

Where the fuck are the charges against Obama? Come on, produce one shred of evidence.....besides fucking news from zerohedge.


SGG


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So has everybody come to agree that the title of this thread is true?



It's absolute fact. Truth beyond all measure. The Obama admin ( Obama ) did in fact surveille ( wire tap ) Trump ( Trump Tower )

And further, this was done illegally, for strictly political purposes, under the guise of " national security ".

100% Hokum.


There's no other way to spin it.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2018 4:16 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Saying it doesn't make it so. Why hasn't Congress indicted anyone, or held anyone in contempt of Congress? Where the fuck is the proof? Produce something concrete. You know, evidence.

Why doesn't the AG go after Obama if that's the case? He's a private citizen now, and Congress is filled to the brim with fucking right-wing members of the Good Ol' Boys Club.

Where the fuck are the charges against Obama? Come on, produce one shred of evidence.....besides fucking news from zerohedge.


SGG


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So has everybody come to agree that the title of this thread is true?



It's absolute fact. Truth beyond all measure. The Obama admin ( Obama ) did in fact surveille ( wire tap ) Trump ( Trump Tower )

And further, this was done illegally, for strictly political purposes, under the guise of " national security ".

100% Hokum.


There's no other way to spin it.


Sooooooo...
Are you trying to claim it is not true? The truth is untrue?

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Wednesday, February 11, 2026 4:07 PM

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