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The wiretap tweet IS true (update)

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6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:36 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Tough call. ICANN was created on September 18, 1998, and incorporated on September 30, 1998, in the U.S. state of California. It is headquartered in the Playa Vista neighborhood of Los Angeles. It's been doing the job since its inception. So, as I said, tough call. Globalization must be behind this decision.

Yeah. Snopes doesn't think it was a big deal overall, but I don't trust snopes much when it comes to politics since it's a pretty biased site these days. Either way, it was huge news and not even a peep out of the MSM about it. The only ones that were reporting on it were Alex Jones types, so I couldn't believe all of the negative things blindly either.

The Globalists for sure had something to do with it though, and it makes me very uneasy when big decisions like this aren't brought to the attention of Americans at all. It was a bi-partisan decision as well since a Republican majority could have blocked it or at least postponed it in late September but didn't. Not a word from the MSM about that either.....

THGRRI

Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:41 AM

Opps, what's this?

US plan to give up ICANN oversight runs into Republican opposition

Republican opposition to Obama administration plans to spin off U.S. oversight of the Internet's domain name system is evolving into an election-year political fight, with lawmakers using it as the latest front in their attacks on President Barack Obama's trustworthiness.

"We've seen enough out of this administration and its imperial presidency politics that I'm not going to just give them a blank pen and then walk away," Republican Rep. Greg Walden said Thursday as a House subcommittee he chairs voted to impose a one-year delay in implementing any changes so congressional investigators could study the issue.

The party-line 16-10 vote came as administration officials defended their proposal at other congressional hearings. And Democratic lawmakers said Republican warnings that the Internet could be turned over to hostile governments were the stuff of fantasy.

"It's not a conspiracy or a digital black helicopter," Democratic Rep. Anna Eshoo said in a sarcastic reference to 1990s-era claims by some militias and other right-wing groups about mysterious government surveillance aircraft. "It's a plan, and I think it's time to move forward with it."

http://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/us-plan-to-give-up-icann-oversight
-runs-into-republican-opposition/ar-AA4MIg

6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:46 AM

It's old news from 2014 that nobody paid any attention to. I don't know if it was Republicans lying about being against it or the MSM only bringing it up to show how Republicans fought with Obama on everything all of the time.

At the end of the day this all finally ended up happening late last year when everyone was paying attention to the worst and most divisive presidential election campaign that we've ever seen and the MSM didn't report on it at all and even the Republican majority didn't do anything to stop it.

THGRRI

Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:47 AM

Oh no, even more coverage by MSN. From 9/29/2016

Has the United States really 'lost control' of the internet?

Who owns the internet? A White House effort to ensure that the internet belongs to everyone has raised concerns for some groups within the United States.

During Monday night’s presidential debate, Donald Trump discussed US control of the internet, saying, “Under President Obama, we’ve lost control of things that we used to have control over. We came in with an internet, we came up with the internet.” This “loss of control” may have been a reference to an issue Trump has been outspoken about: the planned transfer of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) to a community of global stakeholders.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/has-the-united-states-really-
lost-control-of-the-internet/ar-BBwKSRC

6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:52 AM

And that was an article written one day before it happened. How many people read it? You didn't know about it. You thought I was talking about Net Neutrality. All anybody could think about was Trump grabbing pussy or Trump saying that Hillary would be in jail.

Do me a favor and find me a video of Rachel Maddow talking about it.

Even if there was one, I can guarantee that all MSM (even Fox News) talked about the Access Hollywood tape at least 100 minutes to every 1 minute they might have talked about this MUCH more important happening.

THGRRI

Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:58 AM

Even MPR news on December 21, 2015 was reporting about this. It was everywhere. So MSN may have chosen to focus more on other stories. It's their prerogative. You can bet, because I remember hearing about it, that the reporters on MSNBC were all over this. You need to broaden the sources from which you get your information, and stop buying into all the propaganda.

U.S. Prepares To Relinquish Oversight Of Internet To International Body

The United States is giving the Internet to the world. That's how the folks who organize the folks see it. They're getting ready to move away from U.S. oversight to a more international model. And that's what we're exploring today on All Tech Considered.

http://www.npr.org/2015/12/21/460602050/u-s-prepares-to-relinquish-ove
rsight-of-internet-to-international-body

6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, May 4, 2017 3:25 AM

Well... nobody I know knew about it. Never heard any college SJW types bring it up either. Nobody seemed to give a shit about it, and I think that's because the media didn't give a shit about it.

I think the fact that the Republicans seemed to be against it and ended up letting it happening anyhow is a good indicator that the game is rigged and it doesn't really matter what we think at all.

Both parties are raping us one way or another.

THGRRI

Thursday, May 4, 2017 3:46 AM

Not surprised your friends didn't speak of it. Who actually pays attention and understands. It's sports, a bar stool or both for most. I agree both sides suck. That's why I'm a centrist. If your anything else your agenda is flawed. You are apart of the problem, not the solution.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Well... nobody I know knew about it. Never heard any college SJW types bring it up either. Nobody seemed to give a shit about it, and I think that's because the media didn't give a shit about it.

I think the fact that the Republicans seemed to be against it and ended up letting it happening anyhow is a good indicator that the game is rigged and it doesn't really matter what we think at all.

Both parties are raping us one way or another.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, May 5, 2017 5:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
This is one of the reasons to post here... to hear ideas from other people, even if it's things you've already thought about for years but didn't put the puzzle pieces together.

Of course Obama didn't authorize a wire tap. He didn't need to. All of our phone calls are recorded and stored already... they just need a reason to listen to them. I don't even think it needs to be a good reason. I'd imagine it's along the same lines as the reason you would "need" medicinal marijuana.

That being said, they already have all of the conversations that Trump and all of his cronies have had with anybody going back probably as far as the Access Hollywood tape. If there was collaboration with Russia, show the proof please.

So are you denying that Obama wiretapped Trump and his campaign? Or are you agreeing that it is obvious that it certainly did happen?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, May 5, 2017 5:57 AM

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Originally posted by G:
For one: I didn't say I thought it was ok.

2: How old are you? Seriously? Communications between individuals have changed greatly since that writing. Do you think any Intel agency doesn't have their own digital definition for "plain sight?" I'm sure they would say a digital data sweep that takes a split second, is not "unreasonable." Look how old the language is and do an update in your head - it's pretty basic.

And quit dodging simple questions:
"Flynn's discussions with the Russians? That's another matter. YOU, presumably a US citizen, should also really want to know what they were about - don't you?"

Lots of words - playing dodge-em?
Regarding the points in my April 20 post, ae you still denying the truth? If so, which particular point in the progression of illegal actions are you claiming didn't happen when Obama wiretapped Trump?