The risk of nuclear war under Trump
POSTED BY: captaincrunch
UPDATED: Thursday, May 7, 2026 16:28
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Hmmm... so THUGR's head is up GSTRING's ass, and GSTRING's head is up THUGR's ass. It must be for the warmth. 
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is an oligarchy
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Here's a question: which nation do you think has killed more "brown people"
TO PREVENT NUCLEAR ARMAGEDDON???
Okay, now, in terms of "who can be trusted", which nation do you suppose breaks the most important international laws most often?
Here's a little history for you: Russia was pretty cooperative with the United States until recently
So when you say that Russia can't be trusted ... well, apparently neither can the USA.
WISHY, you sound like a helpless, hapless, powerless fluttery female.
America is NOT helpless. Our military is larger than the next 10 militaries COMBINED, and most of THOSE are our allies! We are fully capable of defending our interests and negotiating from a position of strength.
it's our own dear beloved deep state.
BROWN PEOPLE??? What the hell are you on about?? I don't support half the crap we've done either, it doesn't mean Russia is less corrupt or less bent to take us over or manipulate our systems. WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS.
This is from TODAY.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/07/russia-successfully-hacked-into-voter-ro
lls-during-2016-election/?sr_share=facebook
WE are being dicked with by these asshats. And you think we should just let them do whatever they want to do to us because,... NUCLEAR WAR???? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??!!!
There is NO GODDAMN RISK of nuclear war with Russia right now, SO WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT EVER MATTER????
RUSSIA!! BREAKS EVERY LAW THEY DON'T MAKE THEMSELVES, AND A FEW THEY DO.
They have no problem breaking every rule to get what THEY WANT...just like the Olympics. They broke doping so much they got banned!
Which doesn't even matter because no matter what Russia does, no matter what we do...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .WE.DON'T.WANT.TO.BE.RUSSIA. EVER. NUCLEAR WEAPONS OR NO.
Have YOU ever NEGOTIATED with a bully??? IT DOESN'T WORK. The only thing that shuts down a bully is to make them scared with a large show of force.
PEOPLE AREN'T REASONABLE, bullies especially! YOU CANNOT REASON WITH THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO BE REASONED WITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Russia does NOT want to be reasoned with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know what it's like to be around someone who constantly thinks about the worst case scenario, but you are absolutely OBSESSED with a completely improbable worst case scenario.
You don't even make a microscopic SPECK of sense.
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And so the Democratic party becomes the party of War.
Everything Wishy just said sounded like it came straight from GWB's mouth.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Even if you don't answer ANYTHING from the last post, I have to know..
WHAT made you begin to obsess over the idea of nuclear war with Russia anyway??
I don't think you are even old enough to personally remember the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Were your parents obsessed with it?? Did they beat you if you didn't constantly worry about Nuclear War?? You have serious brainwash level concern with this. Something is not right with you.
Are you from the future or something?? Come back to warn us?? If you are, you are TOTALLY going about this the wrong way. TOTALLY. 
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And so the Democratic party becomes the party of War.
Everything Wishy just said sounded like it came straight from GWB's mouth.
SHUT THE HELL UP, BOOZE FOR BRAINS.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And so the Democratic party becomes the party of War.
Everything Wishy just said sounded like it came straight from GWB's mouth.
SHUT THE HELL UP, BOOZE FOR BRAINS.
I don't drink.
You should probably go back on your pills though, Princess.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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SHOVE YOUR PILLS UP YOUR ASS.
I SAID I DON'T SUPPORT HALF THE SHIT THIS COUNTRY DOES, WHAT HALF YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE????
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
SHOVE YOUR PILLS UP YOUR ASS.
I SAID I DON'T SUPPORT HALF THE SHIT THIS COUNTRY DOES, WHAT HALF YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE????
I'm not into anal play. That's your bag.
I'm assuming that the "half" that you don't support is whatever CNN tells you on any given day.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Hey, I'm only responding to YOUR post about "white power". If you don't want to reference people's skin color, don't bring it up in the first place.
BROWN PEOPLE??? What the hell are you on about??- WISHY
Quote:True, that. We have enough. But personally, I don't think Russia is trying to "take over" the USA or "manipulate our systems"; that's hysteria talking. (read below)
I don't support half the crap we've done either, it doesn't mean Russia is less corrupt or less bent to take us over or manipulate our systems. WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS.- WISHY
Quote:See? If Russia successfully hacked into our voter rolls, and if they're really trying to "take over" and "manipulate our systems" .... why didn't they? I mean, they were right there ... they COULD have. So, what stopped them?
This is from TODAY.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/07/russia-successfully-hacked-into-voter-ro
lls-during-2016-election/?sr_share=facebook
Quote:Whoa! You're boiling over on the stove there, WISHY! First of all. WHO said that we should "let them do whatever they want to us"? Was that me???
WE are being dicked with by these asshats. And you think we should just let them do whatever they want to do to us because... NUCLEAR WAR???? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??!!! - WISHY
I don't think so!
I've been bitching about the "backdoors" that the NSA had MS build into their operating system since whenever, and about the very very lax cybersecurity that EVERYONE (Equifax/ credit card companies, hospitals, banks, government databases, utilities) seems content with.
Secondly, what HAVE they "done to us"? Do you see them invading our shores? Robbing our banks? Changing our votes? Turning off our infrastructure? So what are you so hot about? But hey, come up with a list of things that you think Russia has "done to us" that might explain your voluminous screeching and hyperventilating.
Quote:Ahem! How would you know? Since you seem to think that even reading about Russia will contaminate you somehow, you know nothing about Russian foreign policy statements, Russian military technology, and Russian nuclear posture. I doubt that you have a personal line to Putin; and you sure haven't put much thought into the topic, so your opinion is worthless.
There is NO GODDAMN RISK of nuclear war with Russia right now, SO WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT EVER MATTER????- WISHY
Quote:SO WHAT???!?!?!! Like I said, do you see them invading our shores? Robbing our banks? Changing our votes? Turning off our infrastructure?
RUSSIA!! BREAKS EVERY LAW THEY DON'T MAKE THEMSELVES, AND A FEW THEY DO.- WISHY
No??
Then what's your gorram problem?
Quote:Oh big fucking deal. WE break every rule to get what we want, and that includes killing more than a million brown people, and of the two, I really think that our rule-breaking is more consequential. Has it ever occurred to you that any other nation, when facing a military as large as ours, with our history of invading and destroying nations at whim, might have legitimate security fears of their own?
They have no problem breaking every rule to get what THEY WANT...just like the Olympics. They broke doping so much they got banned!
Quote:MORE screeching and hyperventilating?
Which doesn't even matter because no matter what Russia does, no matter what we do... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .WE.DON'T.WANT.TO.BE.RUSSIA. EVER. NUCLEAR WEAPONS OR NO.
Who says that we should, or that Russia - or anyone except ourselves - could ever "turn us" into Russia? Wow, you've really got an emotional problem, WISHY. Taking a guess, and with your history (as you've posted here) you feel vulnerable and powerless, and when facing an adversary that seems big and determined, you react like a young helpless girl. But that'
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Barack Obama’s 2010 Nuclear Posture Review, or NPR, for the first time ruled out a nuclear attack against non-nuclear weapon states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty. Trump’s NPR goes in the opposite direction and suggests that the U.S. could employ nuclear weapons in “extreme circumstances” to defend the “vital interests” of the United States and its allies. The document states:
Quote:Got that? Trump wants to be able to retaliate against a non-nuclear and perhaps even non-military attack on U.S. infrastructure — say, a cyberattack on the power grid? — with a nuclear strike that could kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions. To call such a move disproportionate would be a severe understatement.
Extreme circumstances could include significant non-nuclear strategic attacks. Significant non-nuclear strategic attacks include, but are not limited to, attacks on the U.S., allied, or partner civilian population or infrastructure, and attacks on U.S. or allied nuclear forces, their command and control, or warning and attack assessment capabilities.
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/08/donald-trump-nuclear-war/
Second, the new NPR calls for the development of a new generation of so-called low-yield nuclear weapons. These smaller nukes, the document suggests, would be tactical, not strategic; deployed to the battlefield, rather than dropped on a city. The problem with this argument is that the atomic bombs used against Hiroshima (200,000 dead) and Nagasaki (70,000 dead) could also be considered low-yield nuclear weapons, in terms of their explosive capacity.
There is also the clear lowering of the threshold for nuclear weapons use: It becomes easier to justify the launch of a small nuclear weapon on the basis of a supposedly lower explosive force. Yet “a nuclear weapon is a nuclear weapon,” as Ronald Reagan’s former Secretary of State George Shultz testified in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee the day before the release of Trump’s NPR. “One of the alarming things to me is this notion that we can have something called a small nuclear weapon … and that somehow that’s usable,” Shultz added. “Your mind goes to the idea that, yes, nuclear weapons become usable. And then we’re really in trouble, because a big nuclear exchange can wipe out the world.”
It would be a worrying development if any president of the United States announced, with little debate or discussion, a plan both to build more tactical nuclear weapons and use them in response to non-nuclear attacks; a nuclear strategy that makes the use of nukes more, not less, likely. But when that president is Donald J. Trump . . . Lest we forget, this is a president who, during his election campaign, displayed complete ignorance about the “nuclear triad”; called for an “unpredictable” nuclear weapons policy, while refusing to rule out using nukes against the Islamic State or even in Europe (because “it is a big place”); and asked a foreign policy adviser three times, during a single hourlong briefing, “Why can’t we use nuclear weapons?” This is a commander-in-chief, who since coming to office a year ago, has demanded a tenfold increase in the number of U.S. nuclear weapons; and casually threatened North Korea “with fire and fury like the world has never seen”.
Giving Trump new nukes AND new ways to use them is like giving matches and gasoline to Curious George. It will not end well.
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