The risk of nuclear war under Trump

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SECOND

Wednesday, February 7, 2018 6:54 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

The endless fantasy brain that lives inside SIGNYM's skull. Making stuff up 24 hours a day... Please cite where ANYONE said they, "were all A-OK with Obama setting up an aggressive nuclear cordon on their border and destabilizing nations to their west."

Go on, fetch! Validate your rambling accusations just once. Can't? You just made sh*t up so you can whine? Check.

Signym has a grudge against Hillary, as does Putin. A coincidence? Probably not.
www.pri.org/stories/2017-10-25/vladimir-putins-grudge-hillary-clinton
"Vladimir Putin's grudge with Hillary Clinton"

SIGNYM

Wednesday, February 7, 2018 7:06 PM

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You go to extremes with your notion that Democrats will nuke the world. Bringing out the nukes and shaking them in Russia's face is Republican territory, not Democrats.- SECONDRATE

Except when we're talking about Democratic neocons, which includes you, GSTRING, THUGR, OBAMA, and HILLARY.

Let's start with YOU and your yammering cohort here. YOU could not resist splattering the board with anti-Trump and anti-Russia posts, no matter how ridiculous or unfounded. Was it not you, hyperventilating over every "contact" between Team Trump and RUSSIA!!! as if that was prima facie evidence of collusion or treason or "something"???

Child, if you don't want war, you have to negotiate. And if you don't negotiate, you will have war. And I shouldn't have to tell you this ... but apparently I do... that negotiating takes contacts ... many of them .... between Russia and the USA. War is just the logical end of YOUR OWN position with regards to Russia. This is where YOU want to be, or at least where you've advocated for over a year-and-a-half. So stop hyperventilating about RUSSIA!!! already, as if it was some shapeless monster-under-the-bed. I have been asking YOU for YEARS to define America's interests so that you could envision some shape to your paranoia, bring it to practical level and decide when our existential interests had been tripped. YOU have been unwilling or unable to actually define America's interests, and so now here you are: having been stampeded by Dems and their deep state handlers, YOU've tripped one of our existential interests.

Well, bully for you. I hope you got what you wanted.

SECONDLY, I didn't hear any objections to OBAMA's nuclear provocations.

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U.S. Ramping Up Major Renewal in Nuclear Arms [2014, under Obama]
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A sprawling new plant here in a former soybean field makes the mechanical guts of America’s atomic warheads. Bigger than the Pentagon, full of futuristic gear and thousands of workers, the plant, dedicated last month, modernizes the aging weapons that the United States can fire from missiles, bombers and submarines.

It is part of a nationwide wave of atomic revitalization that includes plans for a new generation of weapon carriers. A recent federal study put the collective price tag, over the next three decades, at up to a trillion dollars.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/22/us/us-ramping-up-major-renewal-in-n
uclear-arms.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LedeSum&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=2&assetType=nyt_now

Trumps funding position is widely seen (by nonpartisan arms control groups who pay attention to such things) as

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Trump Continues Obama Nuclear Funding

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2017-07/news/trump-continues-obama-nuc
lear-funding

I didn't hear any of YOUR objections to placing a "missile defense" in Romania, Poland, and the Czech Republic, which puts nuclear missiles right on Russia's doorstep.

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Russia Calls New U.S. Missile Defense System a ‘Direct Threat’
MAY 12, 2016
As American and allied officials celebrated the opening of a long-awaited missile defense system in Europe with a ribbon cutting and a band, the reaction in Russia on Thursday suggested the system had raised the risks of a nuclear war.

Russian officials reiterated their position that the American-built system imperiled Russia’s security. But the public discussion in Russia was darker, including online commentary of how a nuclear confrontation might play out in Europe, and the prospect that Romania, the system’s host, might be reduced to “smoking ruins.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/world/europe/russia-nato-us-romania
-missile-defense.html

So, think about the problems- which are shared by both parties and all Americans ... instead of making foolish partisan accusations.

Any commen

SECOND

Wednesday, February 7, 2018 7:56 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So, think about the problems- which are shared by both parties and all Americans ... instead of making foolish partisan accusations.

Any comment of yours (or anyone else's) which includes reference to "Democrats" or "Republicans" .... as if those are meaningful characterizations ... is immediately void.

Let's see if you can make it through ONE WEEK without once referring to either of the two major parties. I doubt that you can!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

Signym, your whole idea that it is both political parties' fault is bullshit.

Signym, the existing nuclear program is not Obama’s. It has to be Congress’s nuclear program because the program started before Obama was President and continues a year and a month after he is gone. But it is not all of Congress’s nuclear program, it is the majority of Congress’s program. Actually, it is the Republicans’ program when you start counting who in Congress voted for what. The GOP can stop that nuclear program by not approving money for it. Has the GOP stopped it or decreased it a tiny bit? No, they increased the spending. The GOP is your party, Signym, not mine. Let me know how you and them will be handling the nuclear program. Will it be to blame the Democrats?

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, February 7, 2018 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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You go to extremes with your notion that Democrats will nuke the world. Bringing out the nukes and shaking them in Russia's face is Republican territory, not Democrats.- SECONDRATE
Except when we're talking about Democratic neocons, which includes you, GSTRING, THUGR, OBAMA, and HILLARY.

Let's start with YOU and your yammering cohort here. YOU could not resist splattering the board with anti-Trump and anti-Russia posts, no matter how ridiculous or unfounded. Was it not you, hyperventilating over every "contact" between Team Trump and RUSSIA!!! as if that was prima facie evidence of collusion or treason or "something"???

Nope - that was the voices in your head feeding your hatred.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Child, if you don't want war, you have to negotiate. And if you don't negotiate, you will have war. And I shouldn't have to tell you this ... but apparently I do... that negotiating takes contacts ... many of them .... between Russia and the USA. War is just the logical end of YOUR OWN position with regards to Russia. This is where YOU want to be, or at least where you've advocated for over a year-and-a-half. So stop hyperventilating about RUSSIA!!! already, as if it was some shapeless monster-under-the-bed. I have been asking YOU for YEARS to define America's interests so that you could envision some shape to your paranoia, bring it to practical level and decide when our existential interests had been tripped. YOU have been unwilling or unable to actually define America's interests, and so now here you are: having been stampeded by Dems and their deep state handlers, YOU've tripped one of our existential interests.

Get help.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, bully for you. I hope you got what you wanted.

I'm confused - you voted for Trump and he won and you're asking if I got what I wanted? I think you should ask yourself that. You said Hillary was going to start WWIII and voted for Trump BECAUSE of that. And yet here we are, on the brink with a delusional president. Well, bully for you. I hope you got what you wanted.

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SECONDLY, I didn't hear any objections to OBAMA's nuclear provocations.

I've never heard you have any objections against pedophiles - should I make the same assumption?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trumps funding position is widely seen (by nonpartisan arms control groups who pay attention to such things) as Trump Continues Obama Nuclear Funding

Was that before last Friday's announcement of Trump's new US Nuke policy? Yeah, you need to find the updated version if they've made one yet - do try and stay current.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, think about the problems- which are shared by both parties and all Americans ... instead of making foolish partisan accusations.

Trump is the president making these decisions with a Republican congress - do the math, Granny.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
but Hillary was all for it, OBAMA

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
to allow even simple "contact" with Russia

Because RUSSIA IS what Russia IS.

They don't mind screwing over other countries in order to advance their homophobic, white power, freedom of speech killing, warmongering agenda.

WHY WOULD YOU WANT CONTACT WITH THAT?????

They prove every day why they can't be trusted to even have NORMAL relations with them.

I swear.. it's like you are constantly advocating that the U.S. has to stay in an abusive relationship with Russia...because WHY??

What the hell do we have to gain from that??

SECOND

Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
to allow even simple "contact" with Russia

Because RUSSIA IS what Russia IS.

They don't mind screwing over other countries in order to advance their homophobic, white power, freedom of speech killing, warmongering agenda.

WHY WOULD YOU WANT CONTACT WITH THAT?????

They prove every day why they can't be trusted to even have NORMAL relations with them.

I swear.. it's like you are constantly advocating that the U.S. has to stay in an abusive relationship with Russia...because WHY??

What the hell do we have to gain from that??

If Disney can communicate to the Russians, the US State Dept. ought to.
Russian at 2:57 into the video of Let It Go.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:28 AM

Well, first of all, GSTRING, here is prima facie evidence of what your cohort thinks like:

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Because RUSSIA IS what Russia IS. They don't mind screwing over other countries in order to advance their homophobic, white power, freedom of speech killing, warmongering agenda. WHY WOULD YOU WANT CONTACT WITH THAT????? They prove every day why they can't be trusted to even have NORMAL relations with them.
I swear.. it's like you are constantly advocating that the U.S. has to stay in an abusive relationship with Russia...because WHY??

What the hell do we have to gain from that?? - WISHY

I can also bring quotes from THUGR, SGG, SECOND, and JO demonstrating the collective level of ignorance brought to the board about us (our American interests) and Russia and how the two intersect. All of your collective screeching and hyperventilating gives me a headache.

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WISHY, and now .... I'm going to address YOUR statement directly, and not just as an example.

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Because RUSSIA IS what Russia IS. They don't mind screwing over other countries in order to advance their homophobic, white power, freedom of speech killing, warmongering agenda.- WISHY

Well, first of all WISHY, if you want an example of white power and warmongering agenda, look no further than the United States. Here's a question: which nation do you think has killed more "brown people" in the last 30 years or so? The United States, or Russia? Because there is no greater violation of "human rights" than killing someone, and if I wanted to point a finger at the biggest violator of the most important human right, where do you suppose that finger would point?

When you answer, BE SPECIFIC. Do some research, bring facts and figures to the board as to just who killed how many.

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WHY WOULD YOU WANT CONTACT WITH THAT?????

TO PREVENT NUCLEAR ARMAGEDDON???

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They prove every day why they can't be trusted to even have NORMAL relations with them.- WISHY

Okay, now, in terms of "who can be trusted", which nation do you suppose breaks the most important international laws most often?

Here's a little history for you: Russia was pretty cooperative with the United States until recently, despite the fact that we broke the oft-discussed and frequently-documented agreement not to move NATO closer to their border; that our economic "shock treatment" plunged Russia into a nightmare collapse that caused a 10-year reduction in lifespan and took them 15 years to recover from, and that we have been rampaging thru the Middle East since about 2003.

In 2002, Russia voted with America on UN Resolution 1441 regarding Iraq.

in 2008, we signed a deal with Russia on peaceful uses of nuclear fuels.

In 2011 Russia ratified an agreement with Obama, opening an air corridor for US military supplies into Afghanistan [so that we could kill brown people. It was signed in 2009 but not ratified until 2011 under Medvedev].

In 2011, Russia voted with America to allow establishing a no-fly zone over Libya.

Apparently, though, it was NATO's decision to turn the Libyan no-fly zone into full-on destruction of Libya that soured Russia on cooperating with the United States, since the NATO had been taking over more of eastern Europe; that John McCain and other American politicians provoked Georgia into attacking S Ossetia in 2008; and that the USA had been more-or-less rampaging thru the Middle East and N Africa since 2003.

So when you say that Russia can't be trusted ... well, apparently neither can the USA.

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I swear.. it's like you are constantly advocating that the U.S. has to stay in an abusive relationship with Russia...because WHY?? -WISHY

WISHY, you sound like a helpless, hapless, powerless fluttery female.

America is NOT helpless. Our military is larger than the next 10 militaries COMBINED, and most of THOSE are our allies! We are fully capable of defending our interests and negoti

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, February 8, 2018 1:15 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
All of your collective screeching and hyperventilating gives me a headache.

So leave.

BTW skipped the rest of your post because talk about screeching.

THGRRI

Thursday, February 8, 2018 1:21 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
All of your collective screeching and hyperventilating gives me a headache.

So leave.

BTW skipped the rest of your post because talk about screeching.

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