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I should state, however, that if you're sitting on the other side thinking that all people who vote Republican all believe the exact same thing, you're gravely mistaken. I think the issue here might simply be that Republican Politicians are either better at getting their message out to people that will vote, are better and manipulating people for votes, are better at working together for their own goals when they secure the votes, or any combination of those three.
The real worry the GOP has is doing an incompetent job and the voters noticing. Losing the Iraq War was one of those moments of peak incompetence. Crashing the economy in 2008 was another. But the GOP talked its way out of blame and was reelected after a two year cooling off period with the voters.
I agreed with you up until after the first sentence of the last paragraph.
The GOP's moment of peak incompetence wasn't losing the Iraq War. It was starting the Iraq War, or to be more specific, Congress not doing their fucking job their being paid for and allowing GWB to start the Iraq War.
Maybe in the mind of the sycophantic GOP voters, they were able to talk their way out of their incompetence that allowed the tanked economy in 2008, )
The Democraps in control of Congress in 2007 caused GOP incompetence?
The Democraps passing their Federal Budget in 2007, for FY2008, caused GOP incompetence?
The Democrap Budget taking effect Oct 2007, tanking the economy until March 2009, caused GOP incompetence?
The Democraps in control of Congress in 2008 caused GOP incompetence?
What are you talking about?
Also, not sure how GOP regaining control of Congress in Jan 2011 after having a House minority for 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 is equal to a "2 year cooling off period"
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SECOND, SIX:
BOTH parties are riven by internal disputes.
Don't you remember, SECOND, how the establishment GOP (Neslon Rockefeller/ William F Buckley/ Council on Foreign Relations/ Ivy League/ "eastern liberal wing" Republicans) were challenged by small-government radical Barry Goldwater?
And later, the GOP decided to make common cause with Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority (1980s), ushered in by Newt Gingrich, which led to predictions that the GOPs pro-globalist finance position would be swallowed by a religious extremist agenda? Eventually, when Democrats took both houses in 1987 it let to a circular firing squad among the competing GOP factions?
The TEA party movement (2009- ?) was a Republican populist movement in response to the meltdown pf 2008; not at all an establishment brand, just like the Occupy Movement was not an established brand of the Democratic Party.
BOTH parties suffer from the same problem .... they're corrupted by the irreducible pull of Big Money and the Military Industrial Complex
The rank-and-file party members express their disaffection in different ways: in the GOP, as dissatisfaction with high taxes, Big Government, and the the "war on Christmas".
In the DEMS dissatisfaction is expressed with wealth inequality and through the promotion of Identity Politics/ Social Justice Movements.
It used to be that you could count on the Democratic Party as being anti-war, but BOTH parties have now been consumed by the deep state, and their ranks filled with neocons of various stripes, so there is no more anti-war party.
The problem is that we Americans continue to get screwed. The party bosses know it, WE know it, and the bits of fluff and chaff that the parties throw out to keep us entertained/ distracted (RUSSIA! Stock market!) don't address our REAL problems, which are:
Predatory banking and crushing debt load at all levels, from individual to international
Lack of manufacturing base, which not only erodes the value of the dollar (financial destabilization) and creates a JOBS problem (opioid and other addictions) it also creates a SECURITY problem (inability to deal freely with nations on which we are economically dependent/which hold a lot of our debt)
Overwhelming (50% of Federal budget) expenditures on CIA and military "interventions" abroad which do nothing to protect our national interests but take away from our ability to revive ourselves at home
Lack of common purpose. We not only can't agree which problems are important (let alone how to solve them), we mostly can't agree on what it means to be "American", or that we even SHOULD have a common purpose or a common identity.
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Health care, housing, the environment, education, infrastructure, jobs, true social justice etc etc. These priorities are specks compared to the massive budget that is the military and the security agencies. Out of roughly $1.1 trillion in discretionary spending, the military accounts for over half (about $600 billion) while heath care, for example, counts for about one-tenth of our military expenditure. Needless to say, if we reduced our military spending by a significant amount, we could afford to do much better on other programs. And if we could manage to find where that missing $21 TRILLION went to, we'd be fixing a massive hole in our collective wallet. But don't hold your breath on that one, because the parties who have been filching money from the budget, and those that let them do it, have an existential interest in never letting that data see the light of day.
The point being that while the parties twist, turn, morph, and splinter, they are still chained to the stake of Big Bucks, and they are BOTH riven by the pull that they experience from staying true to their source of funds versus keeping their base distracted and entertained. Don't even expect either party to address the fundamental issues that affect us because that touches on their own wellspring of mo
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About the OP -
Not a good idea.
It may feel good to vent steem in a forum, but stratejicly its an eazy point for the oppozition. At the very least, you can get kikt out. At worst, if you actually do 'get' sumbudy, here'z neon glowing clue #1 for the detectivez.
But about the larjer issuez prezented, I get it. Unkl Skam iz not doing a good job uv riting and enforsing lawz. I think sumwun whoz been ronged iz justified in getting retribution themselvez wen the law haz failed.
Declaring war on Trump supporterz iz foolish. Putin will get a charly horse in hiz cheeks from smiling too hard if he readz that.
Trump's job iz to degrade America in any way he can. Cultivating idiots and nurturing their stoopidity iz a big part uv dividing the nation. Its hard to not get angry at the idiots, but you haf to see them az the 1st victimz uv the attack. (yes, I no the GoPs started it way befor Putin carjacked them)
The only way to really win iz to vote the GoPs out uv power and take down their propaganda network. Many uv the fooled can never be stratened out, but we can stop them from getting control agen.
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J0,
There was actually a lot more discussion in a thread or two other than that one. Did you happen to see the thread where I posted a picture of Walter White saying "I'm the one who knocks" while describing what Frem is capable of.
We used to be friends, and he knows my name. If for some reason in his pain he feels that my having voted for Trump is support enough for him to decide to hurt me or ruin me, I have no doubt he could do it. Hell... He could just send anynomous emails to my current employer pointing them to years worth of drunken ramblings on this website and at least ensure that I never get a promotion there, even if I can't outright get fired for it.
Fortunately for me, I pretty much ruined myself already. The only relationships that I have are the ones that I've been rebuilding and they pretty much know all about what I've done while I was drinking because I did that type of shit on forums with my actual name like Facebook. Most of that damage was already done and it would be pretty difficult to hurt me other than throwing roadblocks in my way while I'm trying to claw my way up out of the depths I had sunk into.
It's besides the point though. What if I hadn't done any of that? What if I had a wife and kids, and he knew my name? I've volunteered enough info about the area I live over time that it wouldn't be hard for somebody resourceful to put an address to the name.
If reaverfan posted the same post, I would have laughed at it. Frem is not one to make empty threats, and he's probably the most resourceful and tenacious person I've ever known. The first time I read that post I got chills down my spine.
It's not just about winning points or losing points, or whether or not Putin would get a smile on his face reading that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Do I haf to read the entire forum? I think I got your point alredy.
If you are really afraid, you shoud buckle down and read/watch all you can about TrumPutin. The New York Timez, Washington Post, MSNBC - the REAL newz.
Then, wen you hav kum to the inescapable conclusion that Trump iz a dumass conman who got himself under the control uv the worldz most seksessful mobster, admit that you got fooled and beg Frem for mersy.
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Quote:JO, you're an ass. You're so certain that you're right that you're willing to advocate political violence? Which by the way, is not only against everything that our nation stands for, it's criminally illegal???
Do I haf to read the entire forum? I think I got your point alredy.
If you are really afraid, you shoud buckle down and read/watch all you can about TrumPutin. The New York Timez, Washington Post, MSNBC - the REAL newz.
Then, wen you hav kum to the inescapable conclusion that Trump iz a dumass conman who got himself under the control uv the worldz most seksessful mobster, admit that you got fooled and beg Frem for mersy. - JO
You don't recall how the NYT (the "real news") pushed the Saddam WMD theory? Or the "massacres" in Benghazi (according to major media) that never happened? And let's not forget that your precious "REAL" news all said that Hillary was going to win. So let's just charitably say that they were wrong (not lying and propagandizing), which STILL points out that they don't deserve the level of trust that you place in them.
Fake news abounds! You'll find it everywhere, not just in alt news websites or Trump's twitter feed. It's everywhere, even in the MSM.
So FOR THE RECORD: What happens if you're wrong? Will you apologize for being a jerk and advocating political violence?
One of the things that people never consider is what might happen if they have to eat their own words. Thinking about that tends to prevent intemperate posts ahead of time.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is an oligarchy
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Well let's just say that I'm not comfortable with having any more personal contact with you than we currently have at this point J0.
I'm still willing to work with you on the tax plan, but we'll have to do it on here. If you have any specific questions, or would like me to take the time to write up something more official, just say the word. If you feel you have a lot more to talk about that you'd rather speak it to me, you have a youtube channel. Send me a video that is set to be viewed, but not available to the public. 
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Signy, he didn't advocate political violence. He seems to be against what Frem said in the first post, but not for the right reason.
There is only one reason. He won't say it either.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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"admit that you got fooled and beg Frem for mersy."
Looks like TROLLJO has no issue with Frem's threats - in fact, he thinks threatening people is SO legitimate, people should cave 'and beg for mercy'.
Because ... Trump.
HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?
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Sig & Kik - thats a standard misinformation tactic. You are taking a part uv a statement and making it into the hole messij.
"If you are really afraid" iz the foundation uv wut followz. You ignore that to make 'JO advocates political violens' sound reazonable.
The tactic works well enuf to fool most peepl wen its spoken, thus the rezounding sekses uv the GoP propaganda TV & radio network, but in print, not so well. And in a text based debate like here, it clearly revealz your intention to deseev.
6 - Are you truly afraid?
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