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THGRRI

Monday, January 15, 2018 3:40 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Thank you, SIX, for that summary. I'm not going to post on this topic any more, I think my POV should be clear by now. The only ethical reason for violence is to defend someone from violence. If you blur that standard. then you wind up being what you say you're against; and you've lost whatever moral high ground you thought you had.

Unless of course your name is Putin or you're russian.

T

1KIKI

Monday, January 15, 2018 6:59 AM

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Originally posted by second:
nothing important

HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, January 15, 2018 10:13 AM

Very simple and straightforward, to the point. I appreciate it when someone makes their point and stands firm. No BS, just lay the cards on the table to let people know where you stand.

And that's it. Nothing more to be said.

SGG

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, January 15, 2018 11:36 AM

I'm guess things people talk of are new alt conservative media, a new grassroot nationalist far-right movement? the a mix of Libertarianism and Patriotism...Frog memes, the Twitter Gab Facebook websites steemit minds and sound cloud social networks, USA European Identitarianism, a mix of others and merger of traditional white nationalists...an alt right group or the Alt-Right for a better term...

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

You'd be well advised to run now.

Why should people run...are you some kind of gay bisexual rapist with a disease?

the 'Sh-thole' remark ?

Did President Donaldn Trump say this or was it he said, hearsay then she said...stuff

maybe he did say...he does shoot his mouth and he is not politically correct

However I think he wanted a bunch of people to sign some illegal immigration bill did he not? Immigration Negotiations with Congress and Senate? A Deep State Neo-Con Neo-Liberal guy like Lindsey Graham comes along, he wants a whole bunch of stuff signed off, cronyism politics, ear marks, build he new Local political Store, Park, Casino and New Fed funded Local Shopping Mall for his Local voters...allow in a bunch of his friend from Saudi or some place and maybe Lindsey Graham will finally put his signature on that paper...Earmarks and "pork barrel" Legislation.

maybe Trump then told Lindsey to go F--K Off in more polite terms
Lindsey and their types then throw a hissy fit and run to the media with their stories

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
No BS, just lay the cards on the table to let people know where you stand.

Media Circus

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The mainstream media is in a uproar after President Donald Trump allegedly referred to “s**thole” countries during an immigration related policy discussion.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, January 15, 2018 5:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Very simple and straightforward, to the point. I appreciate it when someone makes their point and stands firm. No BS, just lay the cards on the table to let people know where you stand.

And that's it. Nothing more to be said.

SGG

I was really hoping for you to be the voice of reason when and if you finally chimed in.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Monday, January 15, 2018 7:17 PM

THUGR, G, WISHY, SECOND, and SGG have become collectively unhinged. Not too long ago, they were gasping is dismay when Obama's picture appeared in crosshairs. Now, they see nothing wrong with doing the same thing to Trump.

And here's the problem: Both sides are dolts. By allowing themselves to be pitted against each other over stupid things, when they're being butt-fucked by the third party who is stirring them up in some kind of Jerry Springer cage-match... well, what can I say? They all mutually deserve what they get.

Guys, one more appeal to reason: like it or not, WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. We either find a way forward together, or we sink into the swamp together.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, January 15, 2018 8:14 PM

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Originally posted by G:
And it's helping the Republicans destroy themselves and acts as a Warning for the Dems of what not to become (hopefully they're smart enough to recognize).

I would hope that the message they're learning is to get their shit together so they're not the party that has a chance to lose against another Trump.

Sure, there are a LOT of Republican voters that will never change their vote, just as their are Democratic voters that will never change theirs either.

It was the middle that voted for Trump over Hillary that put him in the office. Those of us who voted against the Democrats that aren't Republican were simply choosing what we felt the lesser of two evils were.

If they're not learning the real lesson to be learned here, then I have no buyer's remorse.

You've got 3 years to fix this shit. Talk to T. As I just stated earlier this morning, he seems to be the only Democrat here that knows what the problems with his party are.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Monday, January 15, 2018 8:39 PM

For the record:

An astonishing 91 times, Trump has celebrated a rise in the stock market — even though in the campaign he repeatedly said it was a “bubble” that was ready to crash as soon as the Federal Reserve started raising interest rates. Well, the Fed has raised rates four times since the election — and yet the stock market has not plunged as Trump predicted. It has continued a rise in stock prices that began under President Barack Obama in 2009. Again, Trump has never explained his shift in position on the stock market, making his consistent cheerleading misleading.

Moreover, the U.S. stock market rise in 2017 was not unique and mirrored a global rise in equities. http://wapo.st/2DhQvYx

When looking at the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index, it’s clear U.S. stocks haven’t rallied as robustly as their foreign equivalents. The percentage gain in the S&P 500 during Obama’s first year still tops Trump’s numbers — though any president bragging about stock market performance soon finds out it’s a fool’s game.

http://wapo.st/2mvIntc

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, January 15, 2018 8:44 PM

Probably a post better suited for the DOW thread. Not sure why you posted it here.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Monday, January 15, 2018 8:55 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You've got 3 years to fix this shit. Talk to T. As I just stated earlier this morning, he seems to be the only Democrat here that knows what the problems with his party are.

The problem with the Democrats is the same one it alway had: "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." -- Will Rogers, 1935
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Will_Rogers

In a Parliamentary system, the Democrats would be a minority (collision? coalition!) of a bunch of little parties with slightly incompatible beliefs. There is no fix for that. The Democrats will always lose, except when the GOP does something stupendously incompetent. Think of Herbert Hoover not responding to the Great Depression. We don't have the hindsight of history with Trump that we do with Hoover, but for the record, Trump gives the strong impression of being incompetent.

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