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Monday, December 4, 2017 10:46 AM

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Anyway, funny how you keep saying no evidence yet, as if that means anything at all before charges have been filed.
I keep saying there's no evidence yet, because, as you agree, there is no evidence yet.

So, what have you been going on about for nearly a year?

Oh, that's right - the line of propaganda you get paid to push, to help that soft coup along.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Monday, December 4, 2017 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
President Donald Trump is a slime-ball, non-aristocrat, pathetic, bad joke.
... But with his foolish egomania, he's dangerous, too.

Used to be, we often elected Statesmen, professionals in governing.
Our second choice was often a general.

Guys who could spell and define "responsibility."


... oooOO}{OOooo ...

OONJ - since I didn't vote for Trump, please don't take this as a defense of him.

Whether or not you like Trump or approve of him - do support the spook agencies deposing our legitimately elected president? What's been done to Trump is straight out of the CIA playbook. There is plan a, plan b, and so on, for getting rid of sitting leaders. First you try to bribe them. Then you threaten them. Then you smear them in the media. Next is assassination, junta, and finally, the military.

Thanks to a series of evidence-free 'leaks', and abetted non-stop by a complicit media, Trump barely made it into the third step.



"Confessions of an Economic Hit Man".

http://resistir.info/livros/john_perkins_confessions_of_an_economic_hi
t_man.pdf

I knew the rest: United Fruit had launched a major public relations campaign in the United States, aimed at convincing the American public and congress that Arbenz was part of a Russian plot and that Guatemala was a Soviet satellite. In 1954, the CIA orchestrated a coup. American pilots bombed Guatemala City and the democratically elected Arbenz was overthrown ...




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Monday, December 4, 2017 4:32 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Anyway, funny how you keep saying no evidence yet, as if that means anything at all before charges have been filed.
I keep saying there's no evidence yet, because, as you agree, there is no evidence yet.

So, what have you been going on about for nearly a year?

Oh, that's right - the line of propaganda you get paid to push, to help that soft coup along.

1kiki, you are nutty about declaring "no evidence". Trump's lawyer just lied about evidence by saying he did it, not Trump, when the lawyer falsely claimed he wrote the tweet, not Trump, where Trump admits to obstructing justice.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/04/doesnt-make-sense-incredulity-
trumps-lawyer-john-dowd-take-blame-for-flynn-tweet


Mueller should have that lawyer swear an oath that the lawyer wrote the tweet, not Trump, so that the lawyer would go to jail for lying to the FBI when it was proven that Trump, not the lawyer, actually wrote it. But that won't happen because your lawyer cannot be compelled to testify against you. Trump really owes his smart lawyer, John Dowd, an eternal debt for jumping into the fire and saving dumb-ass Trump from burning.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, December 4, 2017 5:41 PM

Starting to look like they are giving up, G.

Jumping off a sinking ship. Packing up the work shop and going home to Moscow.

And its starting to look like Flynn iz very important - much more than Manafort.

Hooz next? Kushner, Pence, Don JR, or duz Meuller hav enuf to skip the 2nd raterz?

Not that they arent going down, but wuns all the piesez uv the puzzle are assembled, Meuller duznt need to work hiz way up to the top.

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Monday, December 4, 2017 6:17 PM

Maybe giving up arguing with liberal meat-puppets.

1 year later and still waiting for something...anything to happen is all.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, December 4, 2017 8:22 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe giving up arguing with liberal meat-puppets.

1 year later and still waiting for something...anything to happen is all.

This happened today:
Trump lawyer offers new defense of tweet: president 'cannot obstruct justice'.

John Dowd originally said he, as Trump's lawyer, erroneously wrote in Trump’s name on Twitter that the president knew Flynn lied to the FBI. Dowd's claim was met with skepticism because the claim is intended to absolve Trump of an Obstructing Justice charge. So the lawyer has another defense this morning: “The president cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the constitution’s Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case.”

Contradicting Trump's lawyer is Bob Bauer, a New York University law professor and former White House counsel to Barack Obama, who said: “It is certainly possible for a president to obstruct justice.”

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/04/doesnt-make-sense-incredulity-
trumps-lawyer-john-dowd-take-blame-for-flynn-tweet


I think it is safe to say that very few Republicans believe it is illegal for Trump to fire the FBI director to protect Flynn from being investigated. Only if Obama had done the firing would it have been illegal.

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Monday, December 4, 2017 9:39 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe giving up arguing with liberal meat-puppets.

1 year later and still waiting for something...anything to happen is all.

This happened today:
Trump lawyer offers new defense of tweet: president 'cannot obstruct justice'.

John Dowd originally said he, as Trump's lawyer, erroneously wrote in Trump’s name on Twitter that the president knew Flynn lied to the FBI. Dowd's claim was met with skepticism because the claim is intended to absolve Trump of an Obstructing Justice charge. So the lawyer has another defense this morning: “The president cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the constitution’s Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case.”

Contradicting Trump's lawyer is Bob Bauer, a New York University law professor and former White House counsel to Barack Obama, who said: “It is certainly possible for a president to obstruct justice.”

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/04/doesnt-make-sense-incredulity-
trumps-lawyer-john-dowd-take-blame-for-flynn-tweet


I think it is safe to say that very few Republicans believe it is illegal for Trump to fire the FBI director to protect Flynn from being investigated. Only if Obama had done the firing would it have been illegal.



I think the argument here is whether it is obstructing justice in the legal sense of the word, or if his actions are just obstructing justice. There is a difference.

I have said that it was an unwise move to do this in front of the public if there indeed is anything that Trump or his administration has to hide.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, December 4, 2017 9:57 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I think the argument here is whether it is obstructing justice in the legal sense of the word, or if his actions are just obstructing justice. There is a difference.

I have said that it was an unwise move to do this in front of the public if there indeed is anything that Trump or his administration has to hide.

The tax bill passed by the Senate was an unwise move, too, but there won't be any consequences because most GOP voters don't understand taxes. (By the way, I am 100% in favor of that scribbled, crazy tax bill. I'm already planning how I spend my $millions unearned windfall. ) Look at some pages from the bill:
www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/12/02/handwriting-wall-and-page-senat
e-passes-tax-bill/915957001
/

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Monday, December 4, 2017 10:14 PM

Trump’s lawyer: the president can’t obstruct justice. 13 legal experts: yes, he can.

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I believe the better view, supported by a reading of the Constitution, is that the president cannot say to a prosecutor, "I know Person A lied to you, which is a felony, but you should drop the investigation against Person A." Those who drew up articles of impeachment against former Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton clearly thought the president could be guilty of obstruction of justice because that charge was included against both of them.
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If the president interferes or impedes an FBI investigation with "corrupt intent," that's obstruction of justice under 18 USC 1512(c)(2). Trump has essentially confessed three times to his corrupt intent in firing Comey: on May 10 in the Oval Office, on May 11 to NBC's Lester Holt, and then in his tweet on Saturday (awareness that Flynn had committed a crime).
www.vox.com/2017/12/4/16733422/fbi-deal-trump-flynn-russia-comey

Very few Republican voters will understand what is wrong with "obstructing justice" in either the legal sense or the commonsense definitions, therefore there will be no consequences whatsoever for Trump. The Democrat Senators are not numerous enough to make consequences.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, December 4, 2017 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I think the argument here is whether it is obstructing justice in the legal sense of the word, or if his actions are just obstructing justice. There is a difference.

I have said that it was an unwise move to do this in front of the public if there indeed is anything that Trump or his administration has to hide.

The tax bill passed by the Senate was an unwise move, too, but there won't be any consequences because most GOP voters don't understand taxes. (By the way, I am 100% in favor of that scribbled, crazy tax bill. I'm already planning how I spend my $millions unearned windfall. ) Look at some pages from the bill:
www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/12/02/handwriting-wall-and-page-senat
e-passes-tax-bill/915957001/



Wow, a twofur from Second. Changing the subject and taking the opportunity to rub in how much money he has.

I read the breakdown of the tax bill that you showed me the other day. There's nothing in there that hurts the 99%, at least how that was broken down.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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