Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?
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UPDATED: Thursday, August 31, 2023 05:36
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Originally posted by kpo:
The "no evidence" mantra is a bit puzzling in the context of this very clear and very strange (and sometimes overtly shady) pattern of Russian dealings. These links and meetings provide a very plausible motive AND mechanism for collusion - and are not easily explained away innocently. So... these well-established links and meetings don't count as evidence, why?
'Mantra' iz the rite word for it. Sumthing to keep repeating to brainwash gulliblz.
They do count az evidens. Its our rezident Putin social media soldierz who hav been battling tirelessly to try to keep it all from boiling over.
This thred and a few otherz with similar namez were started by Signym, who seemz to be the leader. The purpose uv the 'evidence' thredz iz to dilute and distract from the orijinal 'evidens' thred I started.
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Sig and kiki, you both proceed here as though no one knows you to be both liars and deceptive.
We do 
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Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
The "no evidence" mantra is a bit puzzling in the context of this very clear and very strange (and sometimes overtly shady) pattern of Russian dealings. These links and meetings provide a very plausible motive AND mechanism for collusion - and are not easily explained away innocently. So... these well-established links and meetings don't count as evidence, why?
'Mantra' iz the rite word for it. Sumthing to keep repeating to brainwash gulliblz.
They do count az evidens. Its our rezident Putin social media soldierz who hav been battling tirelessly to try to keep it all from boiling over.
This thred and a few otherz with similar namez were started by Signym, who seemz to be the leader. The purpose uv the 'evidence' thredz iz to dilute and distract from the orijinal 'evidens' thred I started.
Right JO. They lie, deflect and manipulate the truth by distorting it. Add to that any facts they dislike they claim to be false or in many cases non existent. Both have as Putin and Trump wishes, labeled all legitimate news outlets as fake news in their attempts to do this.
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The "no evidence" mantra is a bit puzzling in the context of this very clear and very strange (and sometimes overtly shady) pattern of Russian dealings. These links and meetings provide a very plausible motive AND mechanism for collusion - and are not easily explained away innocently. So... these well-established links and meetings don't count as evidence, why?- KRAPO
Five people on the chart talked to the Russian Ambassador.
OMG!!! Stop the presses!!!
Son, do you have any idea HOW MANY people talked to the Russian Ambassador? Why, I'll bet you'll find Obama's and Hillary's names on that list too!
Five people talked to "Russian affiliated interests". But sometimes those interests (oligarchs) are not only NOT LINKED to the Kremlin, they're working in opposition to it. Secondly, you will find many other names on that list of politicians and political operatives who contacted "Russian affiliated interests" including Podesta and Clinton through activities with Fusion GPS and uranium.
"Russian business interests" = American businesses in Russia. Here is a list of American businesses in Russia:
3M
Abbott Laboratories
AbbVie
AECOM
Air Products
Albermarle Chemicals Representative Office
Alcoa SMZ (Alcoa Russia)
American Express Russia & CIS
AmeRussia St.Petersburg, Russia
Amrustrans
Amsted Rail Company
Amway Russia
Apple
Armstrong World Industries
Autodesk
Avis Russia
Avon Beauty Products Company
Black & Decker, Moscow Representative Office
Boeing Russia
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Brown-Forman Russia
Burger King
Cameron
Cargill
Caterpillar Eurasia
Caterpillar Tosno
Celgene Corporation
Chevron
Cisco Systems
Citi Russia
Citibank, Saint-Petersburg Branch
Coca-Cola System in Russia
Colgate-Palmolive
Compressor Controls Corporation
CononoPhillips Russia
Corning SNG
Crate & Barrel
Cummins Incorporated
Dell
Delta Air Lines
Dolby
Dow Europe
DuPont Science and Technologies
Eaton
Ecolab
ExxonMobil
Fluor Entrprises Group
Ford Sollers Holding
Forever 21
General Electric
General Motors Russia & cIS
Genesys Telecommunications Laboratories
Goldman Sachs
Halliburton
Herbalife International RS
Hewlett Packard Enterprise
Hilton Russia
Honeywell
Huntsman CIS
IBM East Europe/Asia (NW Region Branch)
IBM East Europe/Asia
Intel
International Paper Russia, Moscow Branch
John Deere Rus
Johnson & Johnson
Johnson Controls International
JP Morgan
KBR East
Kellogg Rus
KFC
Kimberly-Clark
Kinross Gold Corporation, Moscow Representative Office
Krispy Kreme
Levi Strauss Moscow
Lexmark International
Liberty Insurance
Lilly Pharma
Mars Inc.
Mary Kay
MasterCard International
McDonald’s Russia
Medtronic
Metlife
Microsoft RUS
Mondelez International
Morgan Stanley
Motorola Solutions
Motorola Solutions, St. Petersburg Software Design Center
MSD Pharmaceuticals
NBCUniversal
Nike
NVIDIA
OCV Steklovolokno (Owens Corning)
Oracle Development SPB
OTIS Lift
PepsiCo
Pfizer
Philip Morris Izhora
Philip Morris Sales & Marketing
Procter & Gamble
Qualcomm Europe, Russia Branch Office
RAND Corporation
SC Johnson
Sealed Air
Sherwin-Williams
Software Technologies
Standard & Poor’s Credit Market Services Europe Limited
Starbucks
Subway Russia
Tenneco Automotive Volga
The Estee Lauder Companies
The Walt Disney Company, CIS
Thermo Fisher Scientific
Timken-Rus Service Company
United Technologies International Operations
United Way of Russia
Visa
Walt Disney Studios Sony P
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A fine attempt at obfuscation, Sig.
Too bad it wuz a waste uv time. Not likely anybody reading it will fail to consider that nun uv the peepl on your long list woud hav much reazon to deny their Russian connectionz, az Trump & hiz co-conspiritorz hav.
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Quote:What exactly are they conspiring to do? Steal an election? Or build a hotel? Or hide money?
Originally posted by JO753:
Trump & hiz co-conspiritorz hav
Trump is at least as corrupt in business as the Clintons, though probably not as much of a perv as Bill.
But this elusive claim that he was in cahoots with Russia - Putin specifically - to rig the election seems to have evaporated from your mind. Do you have ANY evidence for that? Do you even remember that whole claim you were raving about just a few weeks ago, anymore? Or is your brain completely steered by the media at this point, with no memory, no thought, no direction, except the latest propaganda put in front of you?
TRUMP IS GUILTY !!! ... of something or other ...
HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?
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I thought Thanksgiving was supposed to induce food coma.
But instead this thread has invasion of the trolls.
So, still no evidence?
Soon time for fresh start of another thread.
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Quote:As soon as Junior is on the witness stand, he will reverse himself and claim he misspoke or was incorrect or something. Like Father, like Son. It will be impossible to convict on Obstruction of Justice charges without more than a Trump's word.
Originally posted by G:
Btw, Don Jr certainly colluded, that seems beyond question. And that's not me saying it, that's from his own mouth. Wouldn't you agree?
Comey was fired May 9th to stop the FBI’s Russia investigation. That’s true if you believe the words from Trump’s mouth on May 11. But he was not under oath when he spoke.
Under oath or not, if Trump had not talked on TV, Mueller would not have been hired May 17th to look at Trump obstructing justice by firing Comey.
Because Trump will change his explanation for firing Comey when he is under oath to tell the Truth, Trump’s May 11th words aren’t enough to convict him. Then how does the Justice Department prove Obstruction? It must prove that there was a real connection between Trump’s campaign and Russia. Trump’s May 11th words on TV were only enough to motivate the Attorney General to begin looking for more proof than Trump’s words, words that he will disavow when he is impeached.
There are whole bunch of Trump campaign people that are talking to Mueller. Trump, 1kiki, and Signym insisting that there is no evidence doesn’t change a word said to Mueller.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
What exactly are they conspiring to do? Steal an election? Or build a hotel? Or hide money?
Yes, yes & yes. And lift sanctionz, destroy America in any way they can think uv, help Putin in any way they can think uv.
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I find it so *interesting* that you just happened to have this list handy.- GSTRING
I didn't "just happen[ed] to have this handy", I went to startpage.com (an anonymizer for google) and did a search on "american businesses in russia" and it was the second site that popped up. It is for the Association of Accredited Public Policy Advocates to the European Union which is a Belgian (i.e EU) NGO open only to senior managers of business firms. http://www.aalep.eu/american-companies-operating-russia
Your problem, GSTRING, isn't that you don't know how to use the internet, your problem is that you don't ask the right questions.
Are the connections/ activity correctly described?
Do/ have other politicians do/done the same thing?
It this unusual or significant activity, or is it incidental or insignificant?
Is there anything inherently inimical to USA interests?
Why is the "news item" appearing NOW, when it is not connected to a recent event?
Who benefits?
What are we NOT being told?
Just because I recognize the flaws in our "establishment" foreign and economic policies (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Hillary) and the biases of our MSM doesn't make me a "Trump supporter". I also realize that Trump's policies and personality are flawed, and would be happy to discuss them if only you'd get off this entirely synthetic "issue" and talk about something real. Yanno, like what our interests are and what our goals and policies SHOULD be. Instead, you've been completely distracted by this "red herring" (so to speak).
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