Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?
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UPDATED: Thursday, August 31, 2023 05:36
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Quote:I know because none of you have brought it here.
You keep saying there's NO EVIDENCE, and I keep asking "How do you know?"- GSTRING
Despite the fact that you (you, THUGR, DULL, JO, KRAPO, and SECONDRATE) have been frantically scouring the media for anything that would bolster your claims about the very item that you've all been hounding about ... Trump's "collusion with Russia to win the election" .... Remember? Wasn't that what you all were stressing about not six short months ago? It was all you could post about! ... none of you have been able to find anything.
Quote:I've already said that we need for Mueller to come out with whatever evidence he has - I'm assuming he had evidence of SOMEthing, altho it's probably not about "collusion with Russia to win the election". When Mueller comes out with his indictments, then we'll have something to talk about. Until then, it's just rumor, accusation, and hysteria.
... you keep dodging the question. - GSTRING
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Quote:So basically "guilty until proven innocent"?
I see no evidens that the GRU social media soldierz arent getting overtime pay here.- JO
And you complain about Trump?
And, you want people to vote for you?
Why???
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Quote:That's what I've been asking for since his election. But all I've been seeing is pointless WaPo, NYT, CNN, Rachel Maddow, Fareed etc screeds being posted here.
You keep saying there's NO EVIDENCE, and I keep asking "How do you know?"- GSTRING
I know because none of you have brought it here.- SIGNY
Oiy. I mean this sincerely: I know you are not dumb enough to believe that any of us would have the resources to KNOW what Mueller knows, so please stop making yourself look foolish. It would be great to have an honest debate about Trump - your president - and the horrible things he's doing, wouldn't it? Even any of the good things he's doing if you can find any.- GSTRING
Quote:There is thread after thread, post after post, purporting to have "evidence" when it has nothing of the sort; just allegations about some random bank "pinging" Trump tower; or some time when two people attended the same conference; or suppositions and conjectures like what SECOND posts; and replays of breathless rants by Rachel. 720 posts in "Evidens" alone. If I were to count up the number of times THUGR called me a "Russian troll" simply for asking for evidence, that would probably add another couple of hundred right there.
More gross over statement on your part - you make yourself look desperate when you do this:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Despite the fact that you (you, THUGR, DULL, JO, KRAPO, and SECONDRATE) have been frantically scouring the media for anything that would bolster your claims about the very item that you've all been hounding about ... Trump's "collusion with Russia to win the election" .... Remember? Wasn't that what you all were stressing about not six short months ago? It was all you could post about! ... none of you have been able to find anything.
Not frantic - what would be the point? None of us can do anything to him if we found The Evidence anyway, so again, silly on your part.
If there's "no evidence", why all of the posts flooding this forum?
Quote:All I'm trying to do point out the difference between accusation and evidence.
Originally posted by SIGNYM: I've already said that we need for Mueller to come out with whatever evidence he has - I'm assuming he had evidence of SOMEthing, altho it's probably not about "collusion with Russia to win the election". When Mueller comes out with his indictments, then we'll have something to talk about. Until then, it's just rumor, accusation, and hysteria.- SIGNY
It feels to me like you have been the one being hysterical. I can't figure why you care so much when people say bad things about Trump, but there you are, post after post calling us names and pointing fingers and saying NO EVIDENCE!- GSTRING
It's a distinction that every single one of you seems to have a great deal of difficulty grasping. Finally, it seems, that despite the mountains of accusatory posts, you at least have figured out that there isn't any evidence among them.
So that's a step in the right direction.
I'm SURE something will come out later. OF COURSE we won't have all of the details that a select committee or grand jury will have.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What I'm objecting to is the constant one-sided focus on Trump.
IF YOU HAD RAISED OBJECTIONS TO THE CLINTON'S UNETHICAL, IF NOT DOWNRIGHT ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR, I'D SAY THAT YOU REALLY WERE INTERESTED IN DRAINING THE SWAMP.
But the reality that that you're either partisan hacks (like SECOND) or deep-state trolls (like THUGR) and nobody would EVER mistake you for objective arbiters of anything.
Bullshit and subterfuge. I've said I hated Clinton dozens of times since her campaign began. My only words of kindness towards her was that she would be way better than Trump for this country. A fact we see reinforced daily.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Focus, GSTRING, focus. This whole thread is open for any actual EVIDENCE of "collusion" with Russia, and so far ....
I'm new to this (these) threads, so bear with me, but has anyone mentioned the huge number of established meetings/connections that Trump staff have with various Kremlin-tied Russians? Here's a good summary:
And this timeline:
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/the-definitive-timeline-of-the-
trump-russia-connections-part-1-1100719171804
The "no evidence" mantra is a bit puzzling in the context of this very clear and very strange (and sometimes overtly shady) pattern of Russian dealings. These links and meetings provide a very plausible motive AND mechanism for collusion - and are not easily explained away innocently. So... these well-established links and meetings don't count as evidence, why?
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Just as a reminder, Trump is in trouble for Obstructing Justice:
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Yes, you have posted this before, But when I asked you for LINKS to your previous statements, you didn't provide any.
Bullshit and subterfuge. I've said I hated Clinton dozens of times since her campaign began. My only words of kindness towards her was that she would be way better than Trump for this country. A fact we see reinforced daily. - THUGR
Now, the only reason why I'm asking your to quote yourself and provide links is because I recall NO SUCH STATEMENTS from you. Not that I'm calling you a liar, but I sure would like to see some EVIDENCE that you ever posted any such statements.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Yes, you have posted this before, But when I asked you for LINKS to your previous statements, you didn't provide any.
Bullshit and subterfuge. I've said I hated Clinton dozens of times since her campaign began. My only words of kindness towards her was that she would be way better than Trump for this country. A fact we see reinforced daily. - THUGR
Now, the only reason why I'm asking your to quote yourself and provide links is because I recall NO SUCH STATEMENTS from you. Not that I'm calling you a liar, but I sure would like to see some EVIDENCE that you ever posted any such statements.
Sounds like you work for Trump to me. Can't even remember your own threads or how to find them. It's all there, and you know that.
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I remember you posting that once or twice, recently. A year after the election. Certainly not before.
You know, it would be no big deal for you to post-edit one of your pre-election posts - the same way you frequently post-edit your other posts - and link that.
HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?
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Quote:Sounds to me like no such posts ever occurred.
Sounds like you work for Trump to me. Can't even remember your own threads or how to find them. It's all there, and you know that.- THUGR
Yanno, THUGR, people have often said that I "supported Trump" and that I was unaware of his deficits. In reply, I was able to quote and link the many times I said he was a loose cannon, that his foreign policy was stupid, that he was probably only somewhat less corrupt than Hillary (simply because he had no years in office over which to accumulate official acts of corruption), and that he was a narcissist. And that was BEFORE the election.
So, my guess is that you didn't post any such statements about Hillary because you would have been able to retrieve your posts.
And since you weren't able to retrieve them when asked (twice) I'll assume that any statement that you can dredge up will, in fact, have been post-edited.
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