Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Thursday, August 31, 2023 05:36
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Still no evidence.
Just hype, hoopla, smoke and mirrors.
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Quote:I hear about Clinton's behavior all the time in Texas from over-stimulated Republicans: Did you hear she killed Vince Foster? Did you know drugs were smuggled into Arkansas under Clinton protection? Did you know she violated email protocol that put the USA at risk of something? Did you know her negligence killed those embassy guys in Libya? Did you know Clinton would start a war with Russia and there would be H-bombs dropped on Houston? And on and on and on. And everyone of those Republicans and Signym think they are speaking The Truth when what they are actually doing is only imaginative conspiracy theorizing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What I'm objecting to is the constant one-sided focus on Trump.
IF YOU HAD RAISED OBJECTIONS TO THE CLINTON'S UNETHICAL, IF NOT DOWNRIGHT ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR, I'D SAY THAT YOU REALLY WERE INTERESTED IN DRAINING THE SWAMP.
But the reality that that you're either partisan hacks (like SECOND) or deep-state trolls (like THUGR) and nobody would EVER mistake you for objective arbiters of anything.
Where did Signym get the idea of "objective arbiters"? I don't think they are easy to find in this world. The arbiters would have to be from outside the USA. They couldn't be Russians. They couldn't be Canadians because Trump has an effect on Canada. Maybe a Swiss objective arbiter? To get a provably "objective arbiter" you'd need a time machine to bring someone from the distant past, before there was a USA. Socrates? Shakespeare?
Should it ever make it into a courtroom, Trump has this going for him: an undernoticed series of Supreme Court decisions in recent years have made it nearly impossible for the government to secure convictions in cases of corruption. We are in a situation where politicians whose conduct meets any normal person’s understanding of corrupt behavior aren’t held legally accountable.
www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/11/15/16656784/menendez-corruption-supre
me-court
But there is evidence a prosecutor could use to beat Trump to death:
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/11/the_trump_to
wer_in_panama_may_have_been_used_to_launder_drug_money_from.html
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Originally posted by second:
I hear about Clinton's behavior all the time in Texas from over-stimulated Republicans: Did you hear she killed Vince Foster? Did you know drugs were smuggled into Arkansas under Clinton protection? Did you know she violated email protocol that put the USA at risk of something? Did you know her negligence killed those embassy guys in Libya? Did you know Clinton would start a war with Russia and there would be H-bombs dropped on Houston?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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How Russian Trolls Targeted The 2016 Election With Lies
Fake news tweets and social media posts that flooded the internet leading up to the 2016 presidential election came from a Russian troll factory that works around the clock like any IT facility—except lies were pumping out to control the American mind and put Donald Trump in the White House.
The Internet Research Agency, which works on behalf of Russia inside a guarded, concrete building in St. Petersburg, has day and night shifts and hundreds of former journalists and bloggers creating thousands of posts with false and controversial information to reach certain quotas.
It was "a merry-go-round of lies," Vitaly Bespalov, 26, who worked at the agency, told NBC News. "When you get on the carousel, you do not know who is behind you and neither you are aware of who is in front of you—but all of you are running around within the same circle.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-russian-trolls-targeted-th
e-2016-election-with-lies/ar-BBF7DmL
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So THUGR, SECOND if you can show that what I've posted is "false" and "lies" then maybe you win a point.
But, what HAVE I posted?
That I thought Hillary was ill because she stumbled and fainted her way thru the campaign (ON VIDEO), and demonstrated some seriously strange behavior ON VIDEO (which I linked) which looked like nothing so much as an overdose of Parkinson's medication? (And BTW, yes, I have seen that IRL so I'm not making an entirely uneducated connection here).
That she laughed and clapped like a delighted 6-year-old getting a b'day gift, when she said We came, we saw, he died ON VIDEO about Qaddafi being raped anally with a bayonet before being killed, and that her policy on Libya plunged that nation into a horror of total collapse, extremist terrorism, and civil war; and created a refugee crisis from which it has not yet emerged?
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Migrants from west Africa being ‘sold in Libyan slave markets’
West African migrants are being bought and sold openly in modern-day [public] slave markets in Libya, survivors have told a UN agency helping them return home.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/10/libya-public-slave-aucti
ons-un-migration
That she promised a "more kinetic" approach to Syria? (DOCUMENTED)
That she had over 60,000 emails on a separate (non State Dept) server, and had 33,000 "private" emails (about "yoga" and Chelsea's "wedding") bleach-bitted AFTER the files were subpoenaed?
That Bill Clinton managed to arrange to talk with Loretta Lynch DOJ while the investigation was ongoing, which disqualified her from the investigation? That Comey had originally characterized her handling of emails as "gross negligence" before deciding (outside of his purview) not to prosecute? That BOTH Clintons could reasonably be investigated for "OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE" because they have done things far, far beyond anything that Trump or his campaign has done, and the only thing holding back an investigation is the long-held tradition of not clobbering your political rival after they lost the election?
That the Clinton Foundation took hundreds of millions of "donations" from foreign powers, notably the Saudis, in what appeared to be a "pay to play" arranged with Hillary's State Department, and that the Clintons have been accused of stealing hundreds of millions of dollars (most notably from the Haiti Relief fund)?
That Hillary's State Department fomented war in both the Ukraine ("fuck the EU" Nuland) and Libya ("highly experience" Stevens)?
That Bill has taken multiple flights with his good friend, convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, on Epstein's "Lolita Express"?
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So, Jared Kushner forgot to tell somebody about a few emails from a Russian asking for a meeting ... a meeting which Kushner rejected? How does that compare to bleach-bitting 33,000 emails which are under subpoena?
So, Trump fired Comey? How does that compare to Bill meeting with the head of the DOJ during an ongoing investigation of his wife?
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I have posted, multiple times, that the Clintons and the Trumps, morally-speaking, were more-or-less on the same plane, with a slight edge towards Trump simply because he never had the YEARS OF CORRUPTION WHILE IN OFFICE in his background.
Show me how everything that I posted is "lies" and "fake news", or STFU.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So THUGR, SECOND if you can show that what I've posted is "false" and "lies" then maybe you win a point.
But, what HAVE I posted?
We have been and will continue to, point out what you are doing in real time. No need to rehash it all.
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We have been and will continue topoint outLIE ABOUT what you are doing in real time. - THUGR
Fixed it for you.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
We have been and will continue topoint outLIE ABOUT what you are doing in real time. - THUGR
Fixed it for you.
I offer as proof who the liar is by pointing out your continued practice of changing what others post. It's also what your favorite source zero hedge does.
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Meh...
While I'm going to admit that it would get extremely annoying to me if somebody constantly was doing that to my posts, nobody would read that and think you actually said what was in the "fixed" post.
I do check my own quote when somebody quotes me and so far I've never seen anybody intentionally change what I post and try to pass it off as something I actually said.
The worst I've ever seen happen is that a quote of somebody else's was mistakenly attributed to me on occasion. I don't know if I've caught this everytime it's happened, but whenever I did I got an apology and it was fixed.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Nobody would ever read my post ... where I clearly strike out your words and insert my own comments ... and assume it was yours. It is very clear that I think you're a liar, not that YOU admit to being one.
We have been and will continue topoint outLIE ABOUT what you are doing in real time. -THUGR
Fixed it for you.- SIGNY
I offer as proof who the liar is by pointing out your continued practice of changing what others post. It's also what your favorite source zero hedge does. - THUGR
None of your "friends" here on the board will back you up on your particular grotch about this because it's clear TO EVERYONE EXCEPT YOU what you posted versus what I posted.
And only you would pretend that a clearly edited post was some sort of "lie".
So sit on it and spin.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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