Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?
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So he assessed his own work. Got it.
There was a question in the article that they didn't really answer, and it was How does he know he wasn't being fed misinformation?
Other than his assessment of the reliability of his contacts .... or what he TELLS us his assessment is ... what else is there to go on?
It's still hearsay, and so far no corroborating evidence.
FOR EXAMPLE: Trump stayed at a hotel? Did he or his staff pay for it? Is there a record of payment? Maybe Mueller is ferreting out those very details now, but so far nothing has come out.
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Quote:Signym, have I told you today you are full of shit? Long after Trump has opened his Presidential Library at a Trump golf course, you will still be full of shit. Has Trump made public his tax returns? The ones he promised to make public? We could get the proof, the "corroborating evidence", that Trump is innocent if he would make those available, but he has not.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So he assessed his own work. Got it.
There was a question in the article that they didn't really answer, and it was How does he know he wasn't being fed misinformation?
Other than his assessment of the reliability of his contacts .... or what he TELLS us his assessment is ... what else is there to go on?
It's still hearsay, and so far no corroborating evidence.
FOR EXAMPLE: Trump stayed at a hotel? Did he or his staff pay for it? Is there a record of payment? Maybe Mueller is ferreting out those very details now, but so far nothing has come out.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
Signym, have I told you today you are full of shit? Long after Trump has opened his Presidential Library at a Trump golf course, you will still be full of shit. Has Trump made public his tax returns? The ones he promised to make public? We could get the proof, the "corroborating evidence", that Trump is innocent if he would make those available, but he has not.
He was never under any obligation to release his tax returns. We've been through all of this before. The IRS knows what is in them. They are much more qualified to assess that situation than either you or Rachel Maddow, and certainly more qualified to do so than the ignorant masses that mostly have no idea how to even do their own taxes.
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As Steele told friends: “I’ve been dealing with this country for 30 years. Why would I invent this stuff?”
I dunno, Mr. Steele. Why does anybody who works in high profile government jobs lie all the time? I'm guessing because it's in the job description.
A lot of the people are going to believe you because they want with all of their hearts to believe you. A lot of the people are going think you're full of shit because no matter what anybody says they're going to think you're full of shit.
Those of us who are truly in the middle are going to sit and watch and see how this all plays out. Welcome to the freak show.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You have never been audited. There is an audit where the IRS takes your word, only looks at your forms. Then there is the audit where the IRS sends a team to the field and compares your word to reality. In Trump's case, he has never had a team of auditors sent to Trump's properties all over the world to see if he has told the truth because the IRS does not have a budget to do that for anyone.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Signym, have I told you today you are full of shit? Long after Trump has opened his Presidential Library at a Trump golf course, you will still be full of shit. Has Trump made public his tax returns? The ones he promised to make public? We could get the proof, the "corroborating evidence", that Trump is innocent if he would make those available, but he has not.
He was never under any obligation to release his tax returns. We've been through all of this before. The IRS knows what is in them. They are much more qualified to assess that situation than either you or Rachel Maddow, and certainly more qualified to do so than the ignorant masses that mostly have no idea how to even do their own taxes.Quote:
As Steele told friends: “I’ve been dealing with this country for 30 years. Why would I invent this stuff?”
I dunno, Mr. Steele. Why does anybody who works in high profile government jobs lie all the time? I'm guessing because it's in the job description.
A lot of the people are going to believe you because they want with all of their hearts to believe you. A lot of the people are going think you're full of shit because no matter what anybody says they're going to think you're full of shit.
Those of us who are truly in the middle are going to sit and watch and see how this all plays out. Welcome to the freak show.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Politicians lie, but this is different. I suppose if you wanted to be generous, you might say this is the least effective and trustworthy administration since Warren G. Harding, whose administration was overwhelmed by the Teapot Dome scandal in 1921, in which Harding’s secretary of the interior leased Navy petroleum reserves in Wyoming and California to private oil companies at incredibly low rates without a competitive bidding process. That was a massive scandal, one of the biggest we’ve seen at the level of politics.
There are other examples, of course. Most obviously, there’s Nixon and Watergate, which was a watershed moment in American political history. Ulysses S. Grant’s reputation as a Civil War general was shattered by the Whiskey Ring scandal in 1875, in which Treasury officials basically stole tax dollars from alcohol distillers. Other presidents, like Bill Clinton, have lied shamelessly as well.
Still, I think what we’re seeing right now will, eventually, rise above these examples, with the possible exception of Watergate. But a lot of this depends on the outcome of the Russia investigation. If it goes the way it appears to be going, it will exceed even Watergate.
www.vox.com/2017/11/16/16643614/trump-administration-corruption-russia
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Quote:And do you assume that Trump's tax returns are NOT subject to subpoena by Mueller? Because the IRS may not have the resources for a field audit, but Mueller seems to be pretty generously funded.
You have never been audited. There is an audit where the IRS takes your word, only looks at your forms. Then there is the audit where the IRS sends a team to the field and compares your word to reality. In Trump's case, he has never had a team of auditors sent to Trump's properties all over the world to see if he has told the truth because the IRS does not have a budget to do that for anyone- SECOND
I mean, how stupid are you?
Mueller will spend a long time crawling up the assholes of everyone in the Trump admin. He'll probably find evidence of tax evasion or other financial crimes - yanno, like you would find if you crawled up the assholes of every politician in DC - but the "Russia collusion" story will most likely not figure into the picture.
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Quote:I looked for a new story exclusively about Trump's slimy business and I found one for today. Robert Mueller must be pleased to have such an abundance of material to work with in order to get Trump directly rather than the smaller fish swimming with Trump: https://qz.com/1132442
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And do you assume that Trump's tax returns are NOT subject to subpoena by Mueller? Because the IRS may not have the resources for a field audit, but Mueller seems to be pretty generously funded.
I mean, how stupid are you?
Mueller will spend a long time crawling up the assholes of everyone in the Trump admin. He'll probably find evidence of tax evasion or other financial crimes - yanno, like you would find if you crawled up the assholes of every politician in DC - but the "Russia collusion" story will most likely not figure into the picture.
The Trumps could be liable to criminal charges in the US, says Global Witness’s Anti-Money Laundering head Mark Hays, but only if they knew or suspected that their buyers paid with laundered money. “We’re not saying they had knowledge but that given all these red flags it appears that they at very least turned a blind eye, and may have actively worked to avoid knowing what’s going on,” Hays alleges.
A Trump Organization spokesman told Reuters that the company had no involvement in the brokerage process and that, “no one at the Trump Organization, including the Trump family, has any recollection of ever meeting or speaking with” Nogueira, who sold many of the apartments.” In contrast, Nogueira told Reuters that he met many times with Trump’s daughter Ivanka, and that the Panama project was her “baby.”
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"As if" there is only one potential handler of laundered money?
Don't you think that the hot real estate markets of Vancouver, London, San Fran and NYC receive a significant flow of money from Chinese, Saudi, and Russian/ Eastern European oligarchs stashing away their stolen funds into real estate?
Basically, this is a politically-motivated with hunt. Congresspeople apparently engage in insider trading. The Clintons had an alleged pay-for-play Foundation, from which they allegedly stole hundreds of millions. Throw a stick at any DC insider or at any of the top 0.1% and you'll find offshore accounts, shady dealings, money laundering, market manipulation and insider trading, to say the least.
It's too bad Mueller can't expand his probe to EVERY DC politician; then the swamp would REALLY get drained.
Still waiting for that evidence on "Russian collusion" though. So far, nothing.
Some say that the interviews of Trump's top aides will be done by month's end. So after that, we'll see what he comes up with. I guess we'll see how focused Mueller will manage to stay.
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Quote:And too bad Trump wants Mueller to stop investigating EVERYBODY. "We call on appropriate law enforcement authorities, including Special Counsel Robert Mueller and Congress, to investigate these allegations and, if appropriate, hold President Trump accountable for his actions."
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's too bad Mueller can't expand his probe to EVERY DC politician; then the swamp would REALLY get drained.
www.globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/corruption-and-money-laundering/nar
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"As if" there is only one potential handler of laundered money?
Don't you think that the hot real estate markets of Vancouver, London, San Fran and NYC receive a significant flow of money from Chinese, Saudi, and Russian/ Eastern European oligarchs stashing away their stolen funds into real estate?
Basically, this is a politically-motivated with hunt. Congresspeople apparently engage in insider trading. The Clintons had an alleged pay-for-play Foundation, from which they allegedly stole hundreds of millions. Throw a stick at any DC insider or at any of the top 0.1% and you'll find offshore accounts, shady dealings, money laundering, market manipulation and insider trading, to say the least.
It's too bad Mueller can't expand his probe to EVERY DC politician; then the swamp would REALLY get drained.
Still waiting for that evidence on "Russian collusion" though. So far, nothing.
Some say that the interviews of Trump's top aides will be done by month's end. So after that, we'll see what he comes up with. I guess we'll see how focused Mueller will manage to stay.
Again with the Clintons and the argument that it doesn't matter if Trump is guilty of anything. He should not be bothered. Why, because others are guilty as well, and even more, because so many are getting away with it.
Your hypocrisy as you attack our democratic institutions suggesting they are all corrupt, is only out done by your own inner corruption.
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What I'm objecting to is the constant one-sided focus on Trump.
IF YOU HAD RAISED OBJECTIONS TO THE CLINTON'S UNETHICAL, IF NOT DOWNRIGHT ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR, I'D SAY THAT YOU REALLY WERE INTERESTED IN DRAINING THE SWAMP.
But the reality that that you're either partisan hacks (like SECOND) or deep-state trolls (like THUGR) and nobody would EVER mistake you for objective arbiters of anything.
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