Draining The Swamp
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UPDATED: Friday, June 13, 2025 02:56
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Quote:As the world marks the centenary of the October Revolution, Russia is once again under the rule of the tsar.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
So, let me get this straight.....you mean to say that Russia doesn't have a care in the world and is totally fine with our way of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Oh goody gum drops! Golly gee Batman, they are good guys after all.
I'm sorry I ever doubted Comrade Putin.- DULL
Do you really... REALLY ... think this is the problem we have with Russia - that they're jealous of our freedoms?
That's a serious question, by the way.
www.economist.com/news/leaders/21730645-world-marks-centenary-october-
revolution-russia-once-again-under-rule
A century isn't enough time to change the Russian peasants. America has the same problem, a vast army of ignoramuses, P. T. Barnum's suckers born every minute. If an American can’t read or add and subtract, their life is difficult because they can’t understand what a literate person can. Likewise, there are Americans who can’t read Trump, calculate that he is a liar, and see that he is conning them. Feel sad for them because they were being conned long before Trump.
Their lives are frustrating because they can’t understand being conned by businesses, TV, bosses at their jobs, banks, etc. Too bad for them, but good for the conmen and the greatest conman of 2016, Donald J Trump. Trump now needs an exit strategy to get out of town before the people he cheated realize what happened to their money.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Nope. I guess you CAN'T write a post without mentioning Trump! Despite the fact that he's a mere interloper in a decades-old swamp, and had no hand (politically, anyway) in creating the problems we're facing.
Tell me, SECONDRATE, if Trump was the "greatest conman of 2016" [interesting that you had to limit that to one year...] who was the greatest conman of 2015?
Or putting it another way, who is the greater conman? The one that many people think is a conman, or the one that many people believe is a saint?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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This is what I find so disturbing about you all: what you seem to be terrified of is that you might have been exposed to - *GASP!* - new ideas!
So Russia injected something like 0.1% of content into the media (social or otherwise) of 2016?
So what?
Do you think Russia is the only one representing their POV internationally? What do you think WE do, broadcasting Radio Free Europe/ Radio Liberty, and putting CIA staff on media payroll overseas? What do you think WE do, opining away during the campaign about the [un]suitability of Marine Le Pen as leader of France? Do you really think that we don't attempt to sway elections - or social movements - using every means at our disposal?
You guys are mental marshmallows. If you had put just the teensiest of thought into questions like ...
What are our biggest problems?
Who caused them, and how can we fix them?
How can I tell truth from lies?
What are my moral standards? Am I applying them even-handedly?
Why do I believe the things that I believe?
... you wouldn't be so terrified of having your "thoughts" (and I use the term loosely) contaminated by some random tweet from who-knows-where; maybe Russia maybe the CIA. But there you are, terrified that the propaganda in your brain might get slightly askew because some thought from somewhere impinged on it. So you're willing to let Google and Twitter and FB scrub information for you, censoring out the things that might make you - and the deep state - uncomfortable, instead of learning how to LOGICALLY filter the information for yourself.
What has disappeared from the news?
Why is there a sudden intense media campaign on a certain topic, even if nothing has changed or the topic is unimportant?
Does this item make sense, even with a back-of-the envelope estimation?
Are these opinions, allegations, or actual evidence?
Is anyone moving the goalposts?
What are the contradictions within this item, and where does it contradict other items from the same source?
Who has lied to me in the past? How can I not be fooled in the future?
Who benefits?
You need to be more robust. (Just like our economy needs to be more robust.) You need to be asking yourselves difficult questions, and answering them with something more than conditioned response. In that sense, I agree with SECOND about the mental fitness of most Americans. Maybe you should start out with the understanding that there IS a swamp, and that the politicians that you insist on reacting to as if they were your surrogate daddies and mommies think of you as nothing more than exploitable peons.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is what I find so disturbing about you all: what you seem to be terrified of is that you might have been exposed to - *GASP!* - new ideas!
So Russia injected something like 0.1% of content into the media (social or otherwise) of 2016?
So what?
Do you think Russia is the only one representing their POV internationally? What do you think WE do, broadcasting Radio Free Europe/ Radio Liberty, and putting CIA staff on media payroll overseas? What do you think WE do, opining away during the campaign about the [un]suitability of Marine Le Pen as leader of France? Do you really think that we don't attempt to sway elections - or social movements - using every means at our disposal?
You guys are mental marshmallows. If you had put just the teensiest of thought into questions like ...
What are our biggest problems?
Who caused them, and how can we fix them?
How can I tell truth from lies?
What are my moral standards? Am I applying them even-handedly?
Why do I believe the things that I believe?
... you wouldn't be so terrified of having your "thoughts" (and I use the term loosely) contaminated by some random tweet from who-knows-where; maybe Russia maybe the CIA. But there you are, terrified that the propaganda in your brain might get slightly askew because some thought from somewhere impinged on it. So you're willing to let Google and Twitter and FB scrub information for you, censoring out the things that might make you - and the deep state - uncomfortable, instead of learning how to LOGICALLY filter the information for yourself.
What has disappeared from the news?
Why is there a sudden intense media campaign on a certain topic, even if nothing has changed or the topic is unimportant?
Does this item make sense, even with a back-of-the envelope estimation?
Are these opinions, allegations, or actual evidence?
Is anyone moving the goalposts?
What are the contradictions within this item, and where does it contradict other items from the same source?
Who has lied to me in the past? How can I not be fooled in the future?
Who benefits?
You need to be more robust. (Just like our economy needs to be more robust.) You need to be asking yourselves difficult questions, and answering them with something more than conditioned response. In that sense, I agree with SECOND about the mental fitness of most Americans. Maybe you should start out with the understanding that there IS a swamp, and that the politicians that you insist on reacting to as if they were your surrogate daddies and mommies think of you as nothing more than exploitable peons.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Well, we can see that THUGR not only didn't rise to the challenge, he didn't even understand it! But hey, thanks for the bump!
You need to be asking yourselves difficult questions, and answering them with something more than conditioned response.- SIGNY
Now THAT'S funny!- THUGR
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Paul Ryan wins for 2015. He is in the news today. House Republicans were supposed to unveil their tax proposal today, but it has been put off.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Tell me, SECONDRATE, if Trump was the "greatest conman of 2016" [interesting that you had to limit that to one year...] who was the greatest conman of 2015?
Or putting it another way, who is the greater conman? The one that many people think is a conman, or the one that many people believe is a saint?
They’re delaying because on the verge of trying to pass a huge change in the U.S. tax system, they still haven’t settled on key parts of the proposal — specifically, how to pay for huge corporate tax cuts and large cuts to wealthy individuals.
But wait — how is this possible? Republicans, and specifically Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House, have been talking about tax “reform” and putting out white papers for years — actually, since 2010. How can basic things be up in the air at this late date?
The answer, of course, is that Ryan and friends have been faking it all these years. Has Ryan been swamped by the complexity of the task? Or is Ryan the swamp? Impossible to tell for sure without a lie detector. But I'll say he is a great conman. Maybe he will be the Greatest Conman of 2017! Only two months to go and his competition is Trump.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-01/tax-bill-delay-deals-gop-se
tback-even-before-hell-breaks-loose
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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You know Siggy, you make me laugh (well, it's better than you making me sick I guess). Actually, strike that.....
It pisses me off! You think that you've cornered the market in critical thinking, and that you are the only one that understands the fits and starts of the world.
Yeah, I fool around and make quirky comments because that's what I choose to do; I have my reasons. But don't kid yourself, don't think for an instant that I don't get what's going on.
I choose when and how I respond. I choose the what, when and where...my choice!
Mental marshmallows!? Where'd you get that...a Cracker Jacks box! Puh-lease!
Delusions of grandeur.
Let me leave before I let loose the Dogs of War (I got that from the movie Gladiator) Ha! I kill me!
Keep on Trucking!
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is what I find so disturbing about you all: what you seem to be terrified of is that you might have been exposed to - *GASP!* - new ideas!
So Russia injected something like 0.1% of content into the media (social or otherwise) of 2016?
So what?
Do you think Russia is the only one representing their POV internationally? What do you think WE do, broadcasting Radio Free Europe/ Radio Liberty, and putting CIA staff on media payroll overseas? What do you think WE do, opining away during the campaign about the [un]suitability of Marine Le Pen as leader of France? Do you really think that we don't attempt to sway elections - or social movements - using every means at our disposal?
You guys are mental marshmallows. If you had put just the teensiest of thought into questions like ...
What are our biggest problems?
Who caused them, and how can we fix them?
How can I tell truth from lies?
What are my moral standards? Am I applying them even-handedly?
Why do I believe the things that I believe?
... you wouldn't be so terrified of having your "thoughts" (and I use the term loosely) contaminated by some random tweet from who-knows-where; maybe Russia maybe the CIA. But there you are, terrified that the propaganda in your brain might get slightly askew because some thought from somewhere impinged on it. So you're willing to let Google and Twitter and FB scrub information for you, censoring out the things that might make you - and the deep state - uncomfortable, instead of learning how to LOGICALLY filter the information for yourself.
What has disappeared from the news?
Why is there a sudden intense media campaign on a certain topic, even if nothing has changed or the topic is unimportant?
Does this item make sense, even with a back-of-the envelope estimation?
Are these opinions, allegations, or actual evidence?
Is anyone moving the goalposts?
What are the contradictions within this item, and where does it contradict other items from the same source?
Who has lied to me in the past? How can I not be fooled in the future?
Who benefits?
You need to be more robust. (Just like our economy needs to be more robust.) You need to be asking yourselves difficult questions, and answering them with something more than conditioned response. In that sense, I agree with SECOND about the mental fitness of most Americans. Maybe you should start out with the understanding that there IS a swamp, and that the politicians that you insist on reacting to as if they were your surrogate daddies and mommies think of you as nothing more than exploitable peons.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Hey Thgrri,
Good one! But did you see the "mental marshmallow" crack? I do believe that the cheese has slipped off someone's cracker.
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is what I find so disturbing about you all: what you seem to be terrified of is that you might have been exposed to - *GASP!* - new ideas!
So Russia injected something like 0.1% of content into the media (social or otherwise) of 2016?
So what?
Do you think Russia is the only one representing their POV internationally? What do you think WE do, broadcasting Radio Free Europe/ Radio Liberty, and putting CIA staff on media payroll overseas? What do you think WE do, opining away during the campaign about the [un]suitability of Marine Le Pen as leader of France? Do you really think that we don't attempt to sway elections - or social movements - using every means at our disposal?
You guys are mental marshmallows. If you had put just the teensiest of thought into questions like ...
What are our biggest problems?
Who caused them, and how can we fix them?
How can I tell truth from lies?
What are my moral standards? Am I applying them even-handedly?
Why do I believe the things that I believe?
... you wouldn't be so terrified of having your "thoughts" (and I use the term loosely) contaminated by some random tweet from who-knows-where; maybe Russia maybe the CIA. But there you are, terrified that the propaganda in your brain might get slightly askew because some thought from somewhere impinged on it. So you're willing to let Google and Twitter and FB scrub information for you, censoring out the things that might make you - and the deep state - uncomfortable, instead of learning how to LOGICALLY filter the information for yourself.
What has disappeared from the news?
Why is there a sudden intense media campaign on a certain topic, even if nothing has changed or the topic is unimportant?
Does this item make sense, even with a back-of-the envelope estimation?
Are these opinions, allegations, or actual evidence?
Is anyone moving the goalposts?
What are the contradictions within this item, and where does it contradict other items from the same source?
Who has lied to me in the past? How can I not be fooled in the future?
Who benefits?
You need to be more robust. (Just like our economy needs to be more robust.) You need to be asking yourselves difficult questions, and answering them with something more than conditioned response. In that sense, I agree with SECOND about the mental fitness of most Americans. Maybe you should start out with the understanding that there IS a swamp, and that the politicians that you insist on reacting to as if they were your surrogate daddies and mommies think of you as nothing more than exploitable peons.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Well, that's what SECOND has been saying, in essence, even if not using that phrase.
Mental marshmallows!? Where'd you get that.- DULL
Just go check out his posts. He says it, over and over: Americans are stupid. And you're American, right?
I just decided to stop defending "Americans" from SECOND's amply-displayed disgust!
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Trump's approval rating hovers around 35%. That doesn't mean 35% are stupid; it could be less. But a nation really will have problems that last far beyond Trump's lifetime when that many people approve of him. Those Trump approvers can push America into some awfully weird decisions when guided by their Congressional conmen.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Well, that's what SECOND has been saying, in essence, even if not using that phrase.
Mental marshmallows!? Where'd you get that.- DULL
Just go check out his posts. He says it, over and over: Americans are stupid. And you're American, right?
I just decided to stop defending "Americans" from SECOND's amply-displayed disgust!
Just to drive the point in about (some) Americans and their understanding of (some) American history:
www.theatlantic.com/notes/2017/11/five-books-to-make-you-less-stupid-a
bout-the-civil-war/544628/
On Monday, the retired four-star general and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly asserted that “the lack of an ability to compromise lead to the Civil War.” This was an incredibly stupid thing to say. Worse, it built on a long tradition of endorsing stupidity in hopes of making Americans stupid about their own history. Stupid enjoys an unfortunate place in the highest ranks of American government these days. And while one cannot immediately affect this fact, one can choose to not hear stupid things and quietly nod along. . . .
Battle Cry Of Freedom: Arguably among the greatest single-volume histories in all of American historiography, James McPherson’s synthesis of the Civil War is a stunning achievement. Brisk in pace. A big-ass book that reads like a much slimmer one. The first few hundred pages offer a catalogue of evidence, making it clear not just that the white South went to war for the right to own people, but that it warred for the right to expand the right to own people. Read this book. You will immediately be less stupid than some of the most powerful people in the West Wing.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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