Draining The Swamp
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UPDATED: Friday, June 13, 2025 02:56
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Oh, you mean excluding my ACTIONS here in 2002? 2003? 2004? 2005? No explanation for those?
Now you're just a bore. It's your actions that count.
That's your problem .... you're way too selective in the information that you absorb. You ignore everything that argues against your POV, even if it's irrefutable. Consequently, you'll never learn. Like I said: willfully ignorant.
Oh I don't know. Perhaps some of what I post below had something to do with your change in attitude and led to your long anti American rant here. Your rhetoric does match Putin's ( exactly ) and has since I've been here. I'm betting it only took the first possible reason I've listed.
The expansion of NATO to Russia’s borders in 2004;
The 2006 Russian decision to renegotiate terms of the Sakhaklin II energy deals
with U.S. multinational corporations;
Russia’s 2006 registration requirements for Western nongovernmental organizations;
Russia’s 2007 “moratorium” on its compliance with the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty;
Stalemated negotiations over Russian membership in the World Trade Organization;
Russia’s weakening of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) election-monitoring process;
Vladimir Putin’s 2007 Munich speech declaring a second “Cold War” with the United States;
A deteriorating personal relationship between U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov3
U.S. support for Kosovo’s 2008 unilateral declaration of independence;
Stalemated negotiations over the successor to the START II treaty, which was
scheduled to expire in December 2009; and
The 2008 U.S. decision to place interceptor missiles in the Czech Republic and
Poland.
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Quote:Maybe you should go back and actually READ some of my posts from 2002 before you decide whether or not my attitude has actually "changed". Because, really HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?
Oh I don't know. Perhaps some of what I post below had something to do with your change in attitude and led to your long anti American rant here. Your rhetoric does match Putin's ( exactly ) and has since I've been here. I'm betting it only took the first possible reason I've listed.
Oh, that's right- you don't.
In fact, you don't know much of anything about anything, and especially not about me.
But that's never stopped you before, has it?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Looks like there went another forum page of No Evidence.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
And STILL no evidence.
HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?
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Quote:So, Trump's Approval rating is higher than Bush43 as he completed his maximum Constitutionally allowable years of service as POTUS. And still higher than Hilliary's?
Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump's approval rating hovers around 35%. That doesn't mean 35% are stupid; it could be less. But a nation really will have problems that last far beyond Trump's lifetime when that many people approve of him.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Well, that's what SECOND has been saying, in essence, even if not using that phrase.
Mental marshmallows!? Where'd you get that.- DULL
Just go check out his posts. He says it, over and over: Americans are stupid. And you're American, right?
I just decided to stop defending "Americans" from SECOND's amply-displayed disgust!
What's your point? You had an unfathomably bad candidate?
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Trump predicting he was going to drain the swamp should have been placed in the predications thread. Even though he was unaware at the time he was predicting his own demise.
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Allow me to reclaim my thread topic: Draining the Swamp and creating a New Fucking Swamp.
It doesn't surprise me that we have a new charter member, or better said, the discovery of another Trumpster, fat rich bastard looking to control the world through Russian connections:
Wilbur Ross and the Stolen "Paradise Papers" from Appleby in Bermuda, as gathered by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, that shows hundreds of private investors, including Ross, with hidden funds overseas.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/%e2%80%98paradise-papers%e2%80%99
-us-commerce-secretary-wilbur-ross-hid-russian-interest/vi-AAutmd2
Ross testified that he had divested himself of all foreign companies that could compromise his position as Commerce Secretary before the House Judiciary Committee.
Of course, he wasn't totally forthcoming. In other words, he lied.
SGG
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This is how The Swamp works.
Paul Ryan’s spokesperson @AshLeeStrong tweeted:
I don't envy the partisans tasked with messaging against giving middle income families (family of four making $59K) $1,182 back.
12:24 PM - Nov 2, 2017
Unfortunately for the American middle class, Ryan is lying. (It is not Ryan alone. Trump tells the same lie.) The hypothetical family his top spokesperson AshLee Strong described would get a tax cut of almost $1,200 — for one year. It gets smaller in year two, smaller still in year three, smaller still in year four, and smaller still in year five. It nearly vanishes in the sixth year of the Ryan tax plan, and in years seven, eight, nine, and 10 the family would be paying higher taxes than under current law. That tax hike is not only permanent, it actually grows over time because of a change to the inflation indexing of tax brackets.
On average, over the entire 10-year scoring window, the family would get a total tax cut of $3,550. Yet over the same time period, the national debt would grow by $4,644 per person — or about $18,500 for a family of four.
There’s nothing wrong with running a budget deficit if you’re accomplishing something worthwhile. But to go $18,500 in debt in order to secure a $3,550 tax cut is preposterous.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/6/16606812/republican-tax-plan
-corporate-cut
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Allow me to reclaim my thread topic: Draining the Swamp and creating a New Fucking Swamp.
It doesn't surprise me that we have a new charter member, or better said, the discovery of another Trumpster, fat rich bastard looking to control the world through Russian connections:
Wilbur Ross and the Stolen "Paradise Papers" from Appleby in Bermuda, as gathered by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, that shows hundreds of private investors, including Ross, with hidden funds overseas.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/%e2%80%98paradise-papers%e2%80%99
-us-commerce-secretary-wilbur-ross-hid-russian-interest/vi-AAutmd2
Ross testified that he had divested himself of all foreign companies that could compromise his position as Commerce Secretary before the House Judiciary Committee.
Of course, he wasn't totally forthcoming. In other words, he lied.
SGG
It's just more evidence of what we suspected SGG. The Russians are here.
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Paradise Papers are leaked documents from one of those international "wealth management" law firms that donated so heavily to Hillary. Firms very much like Mossack Fonseca (Panama Papers) detailing how the wealthy elite hide their wealth and evade taxes.
Quote:The BBC, from which this was quoted, is naturally more focused on wealth British individuals and especially whether The Queen was involved. (yes but not much $$ was invested abroad, only about $10 million USD.)
Sunday's revelations form only a small part of a week of disclosures that will expose the tax and financial affairs of some of the hundreds of people and companies named in the data, some with strong UK connections.
Many of the stories focus on how politicians, multinationals, celebrities and high-net-worth individuals use complex structures of trusts, foundations and shell companies to protect their cash from tax officials or hide their dealings behind a veil of secrecy.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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First, I'm not concerned they donated to Hillarys' campaign. Second, lets see a quote by you regarding that. Not because I care they donated to her campaign, but to see if you made that up. Until I see the quote I am going to assume you did. Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Paradise Papers are leaked documents from one of those international "wealth management" law firms that donated so heavily to Hillary. Firms very much like Mossack Fonseca (Panama Papers) detailing how the wealthy elite hide their wealth and evade taxes. Quote:
The BBC, from which this was quoted, is naturally more focused on wealth British individuals and especially whether The Queen was involved. (yes but not much $$ was invested abroad, only about $10 million USD.)
Sunday's revelations form only a small part of a week of disclosures that will expose the tax and financial affairs of some of the hundreds of people and companies named in the data, some with strong UK connections.
Many of the stories focus on how politicians, multinationals, celebrities and high-net-worth individuals use complex structures of trusts, foundations and shell companies to protect their cash from tax officials or hide their dealings behind a veil of secrecy.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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