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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hating whole categories of people is just like hating Jews. blacks, gays, and Muslims. But somehow, that lesson is lost on you .
- SIGNY

You just equated Jews. blacks, gays, and Muslims with Nazis. How long have you felt that way?- GSTRING

No, you dumb shit, I'm equating YOU with Nazis. You're engaging in the same kind of hate-speech. The only difference between you and them is that your target groups are different.
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Who said anything about arresting them? - GSTRING
You did, when YOU posted that "standing for Nazi ideology is a crime. Here, let me quote you
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Third, you assume that "standing for something" is, in and of itself, a crime. - SIGNY
Nope, Not "standing for something" "standing for Nazi ideology." - GSTRING

Now, I know that you're going to post that you didn't complete that sentence, that you didn't SAY that standing for Nazi ideology is a crime, but your meaning is crystal clear to everyone,

fair certain
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and if you take that tack you're just going to look like the weasely coward that you are.
too late.
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SO, if standing for Nazi ideology is a "crime", then it should be possible to arrest people who do. Right?

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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Men's Rights Activist.

Not fascist. Just sick of the left-wing, SJW, feminist bullshit.

Just angry, bitter men who are losers with women, so they blame women for their inadequacies. Men like you, Jack.

Lots of them come to Nazism from there. They're losers in life (like you), and it's everyone else's fault.



I'm not angry or bitter. I'm doing just fine, snowflake.

How's that crippling debt treating you? Your student loans? Your mortgage? Do you even own a house?



Once again, I should probably point out your fierce hatred that you rant about with nearly every post, and how you want to hurt people.

Go back and look at my posts. I don't do that.

Who's the angry and bitter person here? Everybody else sees it.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:11 AM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Men's Rights Activist.

Not fascist. Just sick of the left-wing, SJW, feminist bullshit.

Just angry, bitter men who are losers with women, so they blame women for their inadequacies. Men like you, Jack.

Lots of them come to Nazism from there. They're losers in life (like you), and it's everyone else's fault.

I'm not angry or bitter. I'm doing just fine, snowflake.

How's that crippling debt treating you? Your student loans? Your mortgage? Do you even own a house?

Once again, I should probably point out your fierce hatred that you rant about with nearly every post, and how you want to hurt people.

Go back and look at my posts. I don't do that.

Who's the angry and bitter person here? Everybody else sees it.

is there any contributor here more angry or bitter than RF?

G sometimes flares up, but RF seems to reign supreme. Maybe others in the past, but RF's deluge of late swamps tbe rest.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:18 AM

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G sometimes flares up, but RF seems to reign supreme.
GSTRING's contribution to the board seems to be to follow me from thread to thread, trolling. Seriously. he just doesn't seem to know how to talk about a topic; personal insult is as far as he gets. REAVERFAN at least talks about ideas. Although he seems to be driving into the ditch lately too.

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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 3:07 AM

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Hating whole categories of people is just like hating Jews. blacks, gays, and Muslims. But somehow, that lesson is lost on you. - SIGNY

You just equated Jews. blacks, gays, and Muslims with Nazis. How long have you felt that way?- GSTRING

No, you dumb shit, I'm equating YOU with Nazis. You're engaging in the same kind of hate-speech. The only difference between you and them is that your target groups are different. - SIGNY

You just equated all groups as deserving the same treatment - nazis, jews, gays, etc - you're just too spineless to admit it. Its right there in print. You typed it.- GSTRING

Yes, you found me out!

ALL GROUPS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME LAWS AND DESERVING OF THE SAME PROTECTIONS. Incitement and terrorist threats ... doesn't matter if they're directed against gays or against the KKK. You got a problem with that, you moron??? Take it up with the ACLU and the Constitution.

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Plus, bonus Siggy BS round: "The only difference between you and them is that your target groups are different." God you're a genius!

I don't hate jews or gays, I hate Nazis. While here you are defending them.- GSTRING

Wow. Even your fans will see what an idiot you are.

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You did, when YOU posted that "standing for Nazi ideology is a crime. Here, let me quote you:
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Third, you assume that "standing for something" is, in and of itself, a crime. - SIGNY
Nope, Not "standing for something" "standing for Nazi ideology." - GSTRING



Now, I know that you're going to post that you didn't complete that sentence, that you didn't SAY that standing for Nazi ideology is a crime, but your meaning is crystal clear to everyone, and if you take that tack you're just going to look like the weasely coward that you are.

You are right again - I never said it was a crime - you corrected one of your own lies, thx toots.

As predicted:
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Now, I know that you're going to post that you didn't complete that sentence, that you didn't SAY that standing for Nazi ideology is a crime, but your meaning is crystal clear to everyone, and if you take that tack you're just going to look like the weasely coward that you are.
So now everyone will see what a weasely coward you are. You're a man who stands behind his words. 50 feet behind.

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You can't seem to make the leap past defending WHAT someone is saying versus defending their right to say it. SIGNY

And you can't seem to read your own writing. You can't seem to keep things straight in your own head. People can say whatever they want, but some speech should have consequences. You SAID IT YOURSELF in this thread:
"But there ARE limits to "free speech", you know." That was you right?- GSTRING



Yes LEGAL limits. Not mob violence' which BTW is criminal.

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Muslims are free to preach that the world would be better off if we all converted to Islam. About Allah. About how everyone who is a Shiite is an apostate, and that women should know their (very subservient) place in the world. They can talk about that until the cows come home. What they are NOT free to do is recruit for, support, engage in, or incite terrorism (i.e. political violence), or overthrow the government. (They're also not supposed to libel people, but that's another story.) I'm sure that there are other limits on free speech that I've forgotten about.

But there ARE limits to "free speech", you know. - SIGNY

Good god you're getting closer. Have you ever read the Daily Stormer? Any WS or Nazi online mag? -GSTRING

Nope!
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Is promoting violence via public speech against other groups/people - is that ok? I shouldn't have to ask you that but that's how far off the rails your thinking is.- GSTRING
The limits of free speech have been tested over and over and over and over. If an

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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 3:50 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

does anybody know which media bubble RF resides in?


Little Lord Nazipants proves every day he resides inside Rachel Maddow's manly bubble butt.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 3:59 AM

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
does anybody know which media bubble RF resides in?

Little Lord Nazipants proves every day he resides inside Rachel Maddow's manly bubble butt.

OK. I dont follow her, she seems waaaay to incompetent to pay attention to.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:50 PM

You pro-Nazi traitors comparing antifa to the Nazi terrorists are wrong. It's like comparing chemotherapy to cancer. Antifa is the cure. Nazism is the disease.

The antifa heroes saved lives. The Nazi terrorist murdered innocent people.

Let eyewitnesses tell you about it. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/what_
the_alt_left_was_actually_doing_in_charlottesville.html


Also, about the permits. http://www.snopes.com/counter-demonstrators-permits-charlottesville/

You idiots just keep making fools of yourselves.

You're traitors and enemies of America.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:17 PM

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ALL GROUPS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME LAWS AND DESERVING OF THE SAME PROTECTIONS. Incitement and terrorist threats ... doesn't matter if they're directed against gays or against the KKK. You got a problem with that, you moron??? Take it up with the ACLU and the Constitution. - SIGNY

Ha! Nice try! Problem? Yes, I have a huge problem with you changing the subject to protect your flawed logic. This isn't about "if a group is attacked blah blah blah...." Here's your bullish*t logic in ALL CAPS:

"ALL GROUPS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME LAWS AND DESERVING OF THE SAME PROTECTIONS."

Is ISIS a group? Are radical Islamists a group? Yes, they are groups, but obviously (to most humans) we do not nor should we protect them. Your logic fails. - GSTRING

Let's start with ALL GROUPS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME LAWS. Clearly, there is nothing in our laws which says we need to protect terrorists, because engaging in violence for political purposes is what, again? Oh, yes: A crime.

Logic fail much?

When someone crosses a line from legal to illegal behavior, they should be prosecuted.

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Somewhere on the line between peaceful protest / peaceful, non violent groups, and extremely violent and radical groups like ISIS are Nazis and White Supremacists.

We do have free speech, so you are free to go ahead and defend and protect Nazis and White Supremacists the Constitutional right to free speech all you want.

I'm free to defend that Constitution! Oh, gee, thanks!

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It's not surprising in the least as you have shown that you have a dark fascination for the violent bullying, murdering type: Putin, Assad, Trump, Nazis, White Supremacists. Quite a list you're building, isn't it?
Dood! I'm not the one who goes on and one and on and on about them! I'm not the one CONSTANTLY bullying people here! I'm not the one who's willing to cross Constitutional lines!

The one who has the fascination with them is .... you!

Yanno, I'm going to try and lay a few lessons on you. I've brought this up several times before, and I'm absolutely certain that you're going to argue against it, but here goes ...

ONE OF YOUR PROBLEMS (you, REAVERFAN, THUGR, and KRAPO) is that you change your threshold of "right" and "wrong" depending on WHO you're looking at, not at WHAT is being done. I hate to pick on REAVERFAN, but his is the most recent example: If someone from the KKK had talked about "eradicating" anyone "by any means possible", you would have had an apoplectic fit. My gawd, we'd STILL be hearing about how horrible it is!

The fill in the blank is talking about eradicating (circle one) Jews/ gays/ POC/ women/ undesirables/ other.

But when it's REAVERFAN, and he's posting about eliminating people that HE thinks are right wing ... note, I said "right wing" not right wing criminals ... well, that's unremarkable! It must be OK because - rightwing! "We" ALL feel that way, don't we? That btw is the origin of mob violence.

Did you ever look at a statue of Lady Justice? In many cases, she's depicted with a blindfold.


Why do you suppose that is?

As for your OTHER BIG PROBLEM, I'll get to that later!



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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

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Thursday, August 24, 2017 12:35 AM

So, to go back to your first big problem (wobbly sense of right and wrong) my guess is that you've been steeped in movies and television which presents righteous violence as a good thing.

In reality, righteous violence is a crime. Two recent examples, both men fighting for custody: One killed his son, the other (allegedly) killed his ex-wife and then kidnapped his son.

Yep, I guess that showed everyone how deserving they were of custody!


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Your SECOND BIG PROBLEM is that you also have an extremely wobbly sense of evidence. ANY old statement drifting your way will do, as long as it agrees with your beliefs! Naked accusations, in particular, are your meat and potatoes. You accept them absent any evidence, and you make them absent any evidence. Countervailing evidence is dismissed or denied. You'll also accept sheer speculation, stawmanning, ad hominems and other rhetorical device which suits your (emotion-based, belief-based) purpose.

Clearly, you're not interested in finding out the truth. I'm not sure that you even think there is such a thing. Maybe you think the universe is subject to your opinions about it.

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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

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