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This is very poor analog because most lab techs, thanks to being Americans with flexible ethics, will take large cash bribes from industry to substitute clean samples for dirty ones. The traceability idea is to make it difficult for lab techs to routinely cheat and routinely increase their incomes, year after year, from the same industries that want to hide their polluting businesses.

News reporters and media don't have that motivation to fake their news while lab techs have plenty of monetary motivation to fake reports with fake samples.

A better analog would be the police faking evidence or destroying evidence to get a fake conviction. Even worse (Americans ethics being extremely flexible) the Houston police use to be famous for the throw down gun. When a cop killed somebody unarmed, the cop would throw down a gun to justify the killing. Unlike cops, news reporters and media don't have that motivation of keeping themselves out of jail for a wrongful killing.

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In the last few years I've been the person who gets our Laboratory ready for the various, multiple Federal EPA, EPA Region 9, and California audits.

One of the things those agencies as well as our legal department insist on is 'traceability' in everything we do. That means that every final sample, every measurement, every procedure, can be tracked back through a continuous unbroken valid chain through valid procedures to a valid beginning.

So when I see 'news' 'reports' claiming "Natalia Veselnitskaya ... has reported links to the Kremlin", and I don't see a url or a source or an attribution regarding those 'reported' linka, it makes me question if this is a truthfully reported item ... or even if those 'reports' exist at all. Who made those supposed 'reports'? What are those 'reports' based on? And, for such a vital piece of information, why were the background links to these 'reports' left out?

Supposedly the WaPo has seen those 'reports' on which their 'news' was based. How hard could it be to publish, link, or at least attribute them?

The claim doesn't pass muster. It simply isn't traceable and can't be validated in any degree.

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wrong kind of lab, sweetie.

And that still doesn't change the fact that one of THE most vital claims - that Veselnitskaya has links to the Kremlin - is completely unsupported by anything. Without that vital piece of information, every attempt to link Trump Jr to the Kremlin goes out the window. How could such an important piece of information have been given such shoddy reporting, one has to wonder. Because - AS I ALREADY POINTED OUT - ASSUMING that it's not fabricated completely, WaPo got that piece of information SOMEwhere. Don't you agree? So, why not divulge the source and buttress that one vital fact about something that actually happened?

Reporters may or may not have motivation to fake their news reports, depending on how heavily their bosses pressure them to produce a certain kind of story. But if reporters had zero motivation, we'd never have heard the phrase FAKE NEWS.

And FAKE NEWS is everywhere.

LOGIC. Learn it. Use it.

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wrong kind of lab, sweetie.

And that still doesn't change the fact that one of THE most vital claims - that Veselnitskaya has links to the Kremlin - is completely unsupported by anything. Without that vital piece of information, every attempt to link Trump Jr to the Kremlin goes out the window

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Opps

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Donald Trump Jr.’s Russian Connection Has Ties to Former Kremlin Spies

William Browder, an American financier who has investigated Russian corruption for more than a decade, will brief the Senate Judiciary Committee at a hearing next week on the lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya’s ties to the Russian government—including to former top members of the GRU and the FSB, two of the Kremlin’s main intelligence agencies. Those ties were spelled out in documents that Browder shared with the committee and provided to The Daily Beast this week.

The documents provided by Browder delve into the backgrounds of attorneys, lobbyists, and business executives behind what Browder says is a concerted push by the Russian government to roll back U.S. sanctions imposed in 2012. That network is also at the center of new evidence that Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, solicited damaging information on Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton from people whom he was told were representing, and passing on information from, the Russian government.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-jrs-russian-connection-has-t
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wrong kind of lab, sweetie.

And that still doesn't change the fact that one of THE most vital claims - that Veselnitskaya has links to the Kremlin - is completely unsupported by anything. Without that vital piece of information, every attempt to link Trump Jr to the Kremlin goes out the window. How could such an important piece of information have been given such shoddy reporting, one has to wonder. Because - AS I ALREADY POINTED OUT - ASSUMING that it's not fabricated completely, WaPo got that piece of information SOMEwhere. Don't you agree? So, why not divulge the source and buttress that one vital fact about something that actually happened?

Reporters may or may not have motivation to fake their news reports, depending on how heavily their bosses pressure them to produce a certain kind of story. But if reporters had zero motivation, we'd never have heard the phrase FAKE NEWS.

And FAKE NEWS is everywhere.

LOGIC. Learn it. Use it.

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1kiki, would it really have been too much trouble for you to repeat what kind of lab you work at, in what city? It would have given me a clue to check. I need soft verification that you are what you claim you are. For example, you once passed yourself off as the lefty hater of Hillary to Signym's right-winger Hillary hater. Now you're using the FAKE NEWS mime. That is a right-wing concept to protect themselves. Accusing the media of being FAKE doesn't work, except inside your head. The GOP claims that the media is a liberal conspiracy against them and they prove it by saying FAKE NEWS frequently, as if lying about what is FAKE changes anything outside your head.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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SECOND, don't follow the lights.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wrong kind of lab, sweetie.

And that still doesn't change the fact that one of THE most vital claims - that Veselnitskaya has links to the Kremlin - is completely unsupported by anything. Without that vital piece of information, every attempt to link Trump Jr to the Kremlin goes out the window. How could such an important piece of information have been given such shoddy reporting, one has to wonder. Because - AS I ALREADY POINTED OUT - ASSUMING that it's not fabricated completely, WaPo got that piece of information SOMEwhere. Don't you agree? So, why not divulge the source and buttress that one vital fact about something that actually happened?

Reporters may or may not have motivation to fake their news reports, depending on how heavily their bosses pressure them to produce a certain kind of story. But if reporters had zero motivation, we'd never have heard the phrase FAKE NEWS.

And FAKE NEWS is everywhere.

LOGIC. Learn it. Use it.

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1kiki, would it really have been too much trouble for you to repeat what kind of lab you work at, in what city? It would have given me a clue to check. I need soft verification that you are what you claim you are. For example, you once passed yourself off as the lefty hater of Hillary to Signym's right-winger Hillary hater. Now you're using the FAKE NEWS mime. That is a right-wing concept to protect themselves. Accusing the media of being FAKE doesn't work, except inside your head. The GOP claims that the media is a liberal conspiracy against them and they prove it by saying FAKE NEWS frequently, as if lying about what is FAKE changes anything outside your head.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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