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It bizar and funny that you think Trump wud think twise about pardoning himself or any uv hiz gang. Az if the crimez themselvez were the limit for him. 'That woud be too outrajus! I will not cross that line!'
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It's only bizarre and funny to somebody who drank the Kool Aid that Rachel Maddow and crew has been passing out.
I haven't seen any proof that Trump did any of this shit you've been talking about J0. Just a bunch of anonymous sources and circumstantial evidence, and a press that has dogged him since before he took office.
There's no reason to believe that Trump would pardon anyone, particularly himself, if he were convicted of treason charges. I'd like to think that even if this were true that we have a system of checks and balances in place that would nullify such actions.
If it ever were to happen. I'll admit I was wrong and rally against him like I did GWB.
G's example of Sheriff Joe is textbook false equivalency. What do you have?
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I'd like to think that even if this were true that we have a system of checks and balances in place that would nullify such actions.
The system iz dependent on the senatorz and congressmen to be loyal to the country above all else. The swer an oath to uphold the Constitution. They prezumably hav the best interest uv their districts in mind.
That iznt the case. They are more loyal to their party, especially the GoPs.
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If it ever were to happen. I'll admit I was wrong and rally against him like I did GWB.
Then you are depending on the GoPs to hand you your opinion.
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G's example of Sheriff Joe is textbook false equivalency. What do you have?
No it iznt. Look up false equivelensy. Even if it fit the definition, it woud be rong. Malfeazans & disobediens are far below treazon.
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I'd like to think that even if this were true that we have a system of checks and balances in place that would nullify such actions.
The system iz dependent on the senatorz and congressmen to be loyal to the country above all else. The swer an oath to uphold the Constitution. They prezumably hav the best interest uv their districts in mind.
That iznt the case. They are more loyal to their party, especially the GoPs.-J0
Especially the GOPs? [Citation Needed]
You've watched too much TV or something J0. I can't even respond to your fantasy bullshit here. I think a treason conviction on the President would immediately terminate his position, in the first place. There wouldn't be any pardon power left. If I'm wrong about that, this is a major fucking flaw in the system that somebody should have addressed in the last 240 years.
I'm not even going to bother listing the many, many ways and reasons that this would never happen. It will never happen.
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If it ever were to happen. I'll admit I was wrong and rally against him like I did GWB. -6ix
Then you are depending on the GoPs to hand you your opinion. -J0
Bullshit. I would be relying on a court of law presenting a case and finding Trump guilty of Treason. Then I would watch with the rest of the world as your wet dream comes true and he uses his pardoning powers to absolve himself of it.
Pot calling Kettle, aren't you J0. You haven't had a thought in your head since January that Maddow or Olbermann didn't put there.
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G's example of Sheriff Joe is textbook false equivalency. What do you have?
No it iznt. Look up false equivelensy. Even if it fit the definition, it woud be rong. Malfeazans & disobediens are far below treazon.
Yes it is. You just illustrated my point with your last sentence. G was falsely equvilating Trump pardoning Sheriff Joe for criminal contempt of court to pardoning his son from Treason.
Criminal Contempt of Court = Treason?
I don't think so.
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
G's example of Sheriff Joe is textbook false equivalency.
It's text book NOT false equivalency. I'm showing you how they are in fact, completely DIFFERENT. How if he'd pardon a mostly complete f*cking stranger who was found guilty by his own dept of justice btw, he'd sure as hell pardon his own kid, BECAUSE they aren't the same. F*cksake.... the charges don't matter because his family means more.
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He pardoned Sheriff Joe because of the idea, not the person. Sheriff Joe was doing his job. The court told him not to do his job. He was found guilty of contempt of court and they threw the book at him as hard as they could to make an example of him.
Sheriff Joe was also turned into a criminal because of an idea, not the person.
It does matter, and your comparison is bunk. Criminal Contempt of Court is a slap on the wrist compared to Treason, which is punishable by death. If they actually committed Treason and then he somehow hands out pardons without people burning down the white house.... why am I even talking about this.
It won't happen.
You are basing this off of nothing but feels.
Crazy talk, is all.
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Quote:Why Mueller is drilling into Trump’s role in drafting Don Jr.’s false Russia statement
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
You are basing this off of nothing but feels.
Crazy talk, is all.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-mueller-is-drilling-into-trump%e2%
80%99s-role-in-drafting-don-jr%e2%80%99s-false-russia-statement/ar-AArS8aB?oci
Earlier this year, when reporters were sniffing around Donald Trump Jr.’s now-infamous June 2016 meeting with a Russian attorney, some people inside the Trump camp wanted to come clean: to issue a statement saying that Trump Jr.’s meeting was about getting Russian dirt on Hillary Clinton.
The president, however, disagreed.
During a flight on Air Force One in July, he personally dictated a statement to White House spokesperson Hope Hicks saying that the meeting “primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children.”
That statement, released on July 8 and attributed to Donald Trump Jr., was quickly shown to be verifiably false. And several reports released in the past week indicate that special counsel Robert Mueller is investigating just how it was drafted. The Daily Beast, for example, reported on September 8 that Hicks herself will almost certainly be questioned regarding the statement’s composition. The Washington Post reported on the same day that five other Trump aides would also be questioned, and that the July 8 statement would likely be a focus of some of those conversations as well.
Lying to the press is not a crime. But there’s a reason Mueller seems to be focusing so much on this statement anyway: The circumstances around its drafting may be a uniquely good source of evidence of obstruction of justice, committed either by Trump or his close associates. It’s the kind of evidence that could be used to support impeachment charges against the president and criminal charges against some of his associates.
“The fact that the president was so intensely involved in it, and felt a desire to intensely involved in crafting it, raises questions about his intent and knowledge,” Renato Mariotti, a partner at Thompson Coburn LLP and former federal prosecutor, says. “That could make it easier for Mueller to meet his burden of proof as to an obstruction of justice charge.”
The reason this matters so much: it speaks to Trump’s intent.
To prove obstruction of justice, the law requires prosecutors to prove that their intentions were corrupt. But intent is hard to prove in a criminal case. It requires prosecutors to show what someone was thinking, and people often don’t leave verifiable proof of their thought process lying around. The conversations surrounding the July 8 letter’s drafting, however, create a situation where intent could actually be uncovered.
During the Air Force One flight, Trump and his top associates sat down and discussed how to handle the Trump Jr. Russia meeting. The specific reasoning that led them to decide on lying as a PR strategy could end up pointing to evidence of intent to obstruct justice by the president and/or his staff.
“It helps to establish a pattern of deception,” says Ryan Goodman, a former Defense Department special counsel and current editor of the legal site Just Security. “If Mueller’s point is that the president has been trying to either interfere with the investigation into any potential ties between the Trump campaign with the Russians, or himself might be implicated ... engaging in this form of deception could be significant and could be entered into a trial.”
This what makes Hicks, who was officially appointed White House communications director in mid-September, such a significant figure. She reportedly argued in favor of coming clean about the meeting’s true purpose in July and was overruled. This means she could speak to the reasoning that was used to overrule her — reasoning that could, arguably, reveal criminal intent. So too could any other Trump aides present during the discussion.
It’s unlikely that anything uncovered by Mueller would lead him to file criminal
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Bill Mahr puts it all together the old skool way - on a cork bulletin board!
He really underlinez how stoopidly obvious this hole thing iz near the end.
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Hole thing?
Like this?
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Billy must be smoking some primo stuff to spout that kind of gibberish on national TV without the least bit of embarrassment.
Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.
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BRAKING NEWZ!!!!
Trump, Pence, Kushner & 53 more administration officialz and personel led away in cuffs! Further indictments filed on cabinet!
Kerfuffle at JFK az Trump family attempts to flee to Moscow on Trump's private airliner. Secret Service, DC sherrif's deputyz tangle with private security goonz.
Manafort, Flynn flip with plea dealz.
Roger Stone escapes to Venezuella.
Eric slips away, found later hiding behind toilet in airport ladyz washroom with bakpak full uv cash.
Its all happening NOW! More detailz & links later.
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