The Evidens
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Quote:Since you don't know how to read, THUGGER, let me break the story down into small words and short sentences.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Trump, the pop star and Putin. Who these people are as well as others is beginning to flood the airwaves. The damn has broke.
ROB GOLDSTONE contacts Trump Jr.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS to have information from Emin.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS that Emin's father has met with a Russian 'Crown Prosecutor'.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS that a Russian 'Crown Prosecutor' had dirt on Hillary.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS the information is 'high level'.
TRUMP JR asks GOLDSTONE to set up a telephone call with Emin.
After a few emails, TRUMP JR gives GOLDSTONE his phone number so he can talk with Emin.
Then GOLDSTONE CLAIMS Emin is on-stage and can't talk.
Later GOLDSTONE CLAIMS Emin wants to set up a meeting with "The Russian government attorney" who is flying to New York.
Please note that Emin himself is never in the email chain. Since email is easily done and cc'd, there's a chance that Emin was never involved. All of these claims that Emin is involved could just be a story that GOLDSTONE made up. Now if it was me, and someone was going to try and sell me something but couldn't get me in touch with the company, I would think it was a scam. I would think that person was scamming me. To me, this looks like a scam set up by GOLDSTONE.
Then there was back and forth about who, when, where, and how.
The person who showed up was NOT "The Russian government attorney".
It looks like a total scam by GOLDSTONE. Trump Jr did not invite this contact. Trump Jr did nothing more than set up a meeting. I think he was trying to find out what, if anything, they had. It turned out the lawyer wanted to meet about Russian orphans.
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Quote:It's not a legal requirement.
Originally posted by SECOND:
The evidence is Trump's business is not in a blind trust.
Quote:
http://congressionalresearch.com/RS21656/document.php That is, federal officials in the executive branch of Government, other than the President or Vice President,5 must generally “recuse” or disqualify themselves from participating in any particular governmental matter in which they have a financial interest
Quote:It's not a legal requirement.
Originally posted by SECOND:
The evidence is Trump's tax returns.
Quote:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/23/news/economy/donald-trump-tax-returns/
index.html There's no law that requires Trump to disclose the returns
NEXT !
ALSO, SECOND
Yanno, that whole "Russia" thing. ANY EVIDENCE?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:Since you don't know how to read, THUGGER, let me break the story down into small words and short sentences.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Trump, the pop star and Putin. Who these people are as well as others is beginning to flood the airwaves. The damn has broke.
I've been here for several years now. I know better than to read what you post. That is, other than to see if you offer an opinion. Those I will respond to. That's because your agenda doesn't include the truth. I've seen to many facts twisted into untruths by you and I don't like wasting my time.
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Yes, sorry to say, THUGGER insists on promoting his lies in the face of actual - yanno - 'evidens'.
Quote:Since you don't know how to read, THUGGER, let me break the story down into small words and short sentences.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Trump, the pop star and Putin. Who these people are as well as others is beginning to flood the airwaves. The damn has broke.
ROB GOLDSTONE contacts Trump Jr.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS to have information from Emin.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS that Emin's father has met with a Russian 'Crown Prosecutor'.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS that a Russian 'Crown Prosecutor' had dirt on Hillary.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS the information is 'high level'.
TRUMP JR asks GOLDSTONE to set up a telephone call with Emin.
After a few emails, TRUMP JR gives GOLDSTONE his phone number so he can talk with Emin.
Then GOLDSTONE CLAIMS Emin is on-stage and can't talk.
Later GOLDSTONE CLAIMS Emin wants to set up a meeting with "The Russian government attorney" who is flying to New York.
Please note that Emin himself is never in the email chain. Since email is easily done and cc'd, there's a chance that Emin was never involved. All of these claims that Emin is involved could just be a story that GOLDSTONE made up. Now if it was me, and someone was going to try and sell me something but couldn't get me in touch with the company, I would think it was a scam. I would think that person was scamming me. To me, this looks like a scam set up by GOLDSTONE.
Then there was back and forth about who, when, where, and how.
The person who showed up was NOT "The Russian government attorney".
It looks like a total scam by GOLDSTONE. Trump Jr did not invite this contact. Trump Jr did nothing more than set up a meeting. I think he was trying to find out what, if anything, they had. It turned out the lawyer wanted to meet about Russian orphans.
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Someone has a bee in her bonnet. 
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For those who wish to go there.
Goldstone seems to have garbled things a bit; in the United Kingdom a Crown prosecutor is one that works for the Crown, i.e., a federal prosecutor. There’s no such position in Russia technically, but the analogue would be the top federal prosecutor of Russia, and that is Yury Chaika, the prosecutor-general of the Russian Federation. Goldstone was likely translating a foreign title into its local equivalent. Translated into American titles, Chaika could be referred to as Russia’s attorney general.
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Yes, sorry to say, THUGGER insists on avoiding the topic and trolling. Again. As usual.
Quote:Since you don't know how to read, THUGGER, let me break the story down into small words and short sentences.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Trump, the pop star and Putin. Who these people are as well as others is beginning to flood the airwaves. The damn has broke.
ROB GOLDSTONE contacts Trump Jr.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS to have information from Emin.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS that Emin's father has met with a Russian 'Crown Prosecutor'.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS that a Russian 'Crown Prosecutor' had dirt on Hillary.
ROB GOLDSTONE CLAIMS the information is 'high level'.
TRUMP JR asks GOLDSTONE to set up a telephone call with Emin.
After a few emails, TRUMP JR gives GOLDSTONE his phone number so he can talk with Emin.
Then GOLDSTONE CLAIMS Emin is on-stage and can't talk.
Later GOLDSTONE CLAIMS Emin wants to set up a meeting with "The Russian government attorney" who is flying to New York.
Please note that Emin himself is never in the email chain. Since email is easily done and cc'd, there's a chance that Emin was never involved. All of these claims that Emin is involved could just be a story that GOLDSTONE made up. Now if it was me, and someone was going to try and sell me something but couldn't get me in touch with the company, I would think it was a scam. I would think that person was scamming me. To me, this looks like a scam set up by GOLDSTONE.
Then there was back and forth about who, when, where, and how.
The person who showed up was NOT "The Russian government attorney".
It looks like a total scam by GOLDSTONE. Trump Jr did not invite this contact. Trump Jr did nothing more than set up a meeting. I think he was trying to find out what, if anything, they had. It turned out the lawyer wanted to meet about Russian orphans.
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Quote:Trump keeps acting very strangely about Putin.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
ALSO, SECOND
Yanno, that whole "Russia" thing. ANY EVIDENCE?
This oddness begins with simply the way that Trump talks about Putin.
Obama called him a “thug.” So did Mitt Romney. Paul Ryan called him a “devious thug.” Marco Rubio called him both a “thug” and a “gangster.”
Trump fairly consistently declines to adopt this conventional language among American politicians, and he does so even though he is clearly aware at this point — and has been for some time — that suspicions about the nature of his relationship with the Russian government are a key point of political vulnerability. It would be the easiest thing on the planet for Trump to have his communications team draw up some standard-issue US-politician Putin-bashing rhetoric — he’s a thug, he murders journalists, he invades his neighbors — and at a minimum assure Republican Party foreign policy elites that he’s now down with the program.
After all, Trump used to espouse very unconventional views on things like tax cuts for the rich, Medicaid, and the importance of establishing universal health insurance coverage.
But in order to consolidate his position as leader of the GOP, Trump has dropped those ideologically heterodox views even though the heterodox position was more popular. On Russia, however, he insists on flying in the face of bipartisan consensus.
He’s reluctant to even acknowledge that Russian hacking took place, resorting even to ridiculous lies about G20 conversations to change the subject.
Perhaps most shockingly, Trump’s own team of advisers had to drag him kicking and screaming into affirming America’s commitment to upholding Article V of the North Atlantic Treaty. And he did it only after humiliating those very same advisers by letting them brief the media that an affirmation was coming, only to cut it on the fly from the prepared text of his speech.
It was a bizarre thing to do, it clearly benefited Russian foreign policy objectives, and it offered nothing but political downside for Trump.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/11/15947434/something-weird-don
ald-trump-russia
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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SECOND - as I've pointed out again and again ... and again and again and again and again ... What Trump says doesn't matter.
NOW - let's review all the accusations you've made ON THIS PAGE ALONE THAT HAVE ZERO BASIS IN REALITY, along with your unbroken record of dodging the topic and 'mind-reading'.
Quote:You posted two lies in your first three sentences. EVIDENCE doesn't depend on who has it. AND, the intelligence agencies are SUPPOSED to be a-political information gatherers.
There is a problem with how you formulated the difference between Mueller and the CIA. Mueller goes to court and Congress. The CIA goes to war for the President.
Quote:Except, there was, in fact, NO help from any Russian. Pesky facts, eh SECOND?
... but it was illegal for the Russian to help?
Quote:WOW. Has Trump even been investigated, charged, and tried? So how did you jump to 'convict'?
Was there enough "evidence" to convict Trump in Congress? No.
Quote:Who would that be?
Was there enough "evidence" for every single intelligence official testifying before Congress?
Quote:Trump not placing his business in a blind trust is perfectly legal, SECOND.
The evidence is Trump's business is not in a blind trust.
Quote:Again Trump not disclosing his tax returns is perfectly legal, SECOND. What this is 'evidens' for is that Trump is following the law.
The evidence is Trump's tax returns. ... but that doesn't change that those returns are evidence.
Quote:omg! Call the police!
This oddness begins with simply the way that Trump talks about Putin.
Quote:Whatever. That's so much gafla.
On Russia, however, he insists on flying in the face of bipartisan consensus.
Quote:Why are your panties in such a twist, SECOND? No matter what he says or doesn't say, Trump is NOT in control of foreign policy.
Perhaps most shockingly, Trump’s own team of advisers had to drag him kicking and screaming into affirming America’s commitment to upholding Article V of the North Atlantic Treaty.
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In the last few years I've been the person who gets our Laboratory ready for the various, multiple Federal EPA, EPA Region 9, and California audits.
One of the things those agencies as well as our legal department insist on is 'traceability' in everything we do. That means that every final sample, every measurement, every procedure, can be tracked back through a continuous unbroken valid chain through valid procedures to a valid beginning.
So when I see 'news' 'reports' claiming "Natalia Veselnitskaya ... has reported links to the Kremlin", and I don't see a url or a source or an attribution regarding those 'reported' linka, it makes me question if this is a truthfully reported item ... or even if those 'reports' exist at all. Who made those supposed 'reports'? What are those 'reports' based on? And, for such a vital piece of information, why were the background links to these 'reports' left out?
Supposedly the WaPo has seen those 'reports' on which their 'news' was based. How hard could it be to publish, link, or at least attribute them?
The claim doesn't pass muster. It simply isn't traceable and can't be validated in any degree.
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