Is Trump Nuts?

Is it finally time to take Twitter away from Trump? Or is he too nuts to stop?

Trump’s use of the social network to bully foreign governments is dangerous, as the Chinese government seemed to say today. “We call on all parties to refrain from provoking and threatening each other, whether in words or actions, and not let the situation get to an irreversible and unmanageable stage,” China’s foreign minister warned.

On Twitter, policy statements that would normally go through layers of diplomatic experts have been unleashed by Trump with no apparent vetting. Earlier this week, Trump tweeted from his own account and from the official @POTUS one that North Korea was “looking for trouble,” and threatened to “solve the problem.”

Such statements have fueled a “vicious cycle” of tensions on the Korean peninsula, North Korea’s vice foreign minister told the Associated Press in an interview.

https://qz.com/959639/north-korea-tensions-show-its-time-to-take-twitt
er-away-from-donald-trump/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
In November, Donald Trump would be the choice of 44 percent of West Virginia Democratic primary voters who supported Bernie Sanders Tuesday, CBS News early exit polling found.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/over-four-in-10-sanders-voters-in-west-vir
ginia-would-vote-for-trump/

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Trump voters saying “Oh, we would have voted for Bernie rather than Trump” are talking baloney.

West Virginia has been reliably voting more and more for the Republicans. Same phenomenon goes on in Texas, too, except with a twist: when a completely nuts and utterly unsuitable third party candidate like H. Ross Perot comes along, he will still drew 22 percent of the state's vote. In Texas, they like ‘em crazy or Republican. Any Democrat, no matter how sane or conservative, is wasting their time campaigning in Texas.
www.texastribune.org/2016/11/08/heres-how-texas-voted-every-presidenti
al-election-/

West Virginia from Wiki
51.9% Bush vs Gore 45.6% West Virginia, 2000
56.1% Bush vs Kerry 43.2% West Virginia, 2004
55.6% McCain vs Obama 42.5% West Virginia, 2008
62.3% Mitt vs Obama 35.54 West Virginia, 2012
68.5% Trump vs Hillary 26.4% West Virginia, 2016

I see a trend in West Virginia. Democrats get less and less and Republicans more and more of the vote. Does not matter who the Democrat (even Bernie) or who the Republican (even Trump the nut).

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
In November, Donald Trump would be the choice of 44 percent of West Virginia Democratic primary voters who supported Bernie Sanders Tuesday, CBS News early exit polling found.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/over-four-in-10-sanders-voters-in-west-vir
ginia-would-vote-for-trump/

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Trump voters saying “Oh, we would have voted for Bernie rather than Trump” are talking baloney.

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Sorry, I'm not going to go deeper than I have. We disagree about this except to say, millennials. We are talking about millennials, born in the 80's and 90's raised on reality TV. Many did vote Trump, many were democrats.

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Just going to way in here to say 6 is right, 2nd. You're re-electing Trump right now. "No Drama Obama" is a nice Johnny Cochran, but anything that is flagged as "opposite of Obama" is going to win, just like "opposite of HRC" What we (dems) need is to re-evaluate what we stand for, the way the GOP did in 2010, after Bush. Because the opposite of Bush also automatically got elected. Some republicans were able to redefine themselves as the opposite of Bush.

I give the dems about two years to re-align themselves. If they don't come out with a strong independent progress or moderate message in 2018, then I say any actual liberals should work on electing people into congress in a new liberal party. I humbly suggest something along the lines of the UK's LibDems, that would be my choice. But anything that distances them from the all around disaster that reigned for 8 years and jsut ran for office, which might've been "bush lite" or maybe it was "busy heavy"

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You're talking crazy. Trump will win Texas in 2020 and there is nothing the Democrats can do, there is no argument they can make or super-duper Democratic candidate or promises Democrats can put before the public to change that Trump is guaranteed a win in Texas in 2020. As for the other 49 states, probably the same. The same people who voted Republican in 2016 will vote the same in 2020, if they don't die in-between.

Your entire suggested strategy for the Democrats is ridiculous. It will no more be a winner for Democrats than would a revised strategy for Libertarians where they disavow Ayn Rand will help Libertarians win Texas.

A majority of Americans, and especially Texans, are addicted to the drug, the snake-oil, that the Republicans are selling and the elderly American baby-boomers will keep buying until it kills them or makes them sick enough to notice their mistake. (Think Bush and Iraq, Nixon and Vietnam, but Bush and Nixon still won a second term by bigger margins than their first elections. If Trump starts a war, his second term margin of victory over the Democrat will be HUGH.) But if the voters do change their minds for one short moment in the voting booth, soon enough they will change right back again to voting Republican. They love their Republican snake-oil. They believe in its healing power.

And your third party idea? "a new liberal party"? You have not gone crazy but you have misunderstood how the Constitution works. The USA is not a Parliamentary system and 3rd parties cannot win even a thin little sliver of power.
http://observer.com/2016/07/why-third-party-candidates-cant-win/
www.sparknotes.com/us-government-and-politics/american-government/poli
tical-parties/section3.rhtml
www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/08/02/could-a-third-pa
rty-candidate-win-the-u-s-presidency-very-unlikely/

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Just going to way in here to say 6 is right, 2nd. You're re-electing Trump right now. "No Drama Obama" is a nice Johnny Cochran, but anything that is flagged as "opposite of Obama" is going to win, just like "opposite of HRC" What we (dems) need is to re-evaluate what we stand for, the way the GOP did in 2010, after Bush. Because the opposite of Bush also automatically got elected. Some republicans were able to redefine themselves as the opposite of Bush.

I give the dems about two years to re-align themselves. If they don't come out with a strong independent progress or moderate message in 2018, then I say any actual liberals should work on electing people into congress in a new liberal party. I humbly suggest something along the lines of the UK's LibDems, that would be my choice. But anything that distances them from the all around disaster that reigned for 8 years and jsut ran for office, which might've been "bush lite" or maybe it was "busy heavy"

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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“When I hear the president talk about the wall, I think he’s speaking metaphorically.”
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas

www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/us/article/Down-payment-on-bord
er-wall-in-doubt-in-Congress-11075986.php

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sorry, I'm not going to go deeper than I have. We disagree about this except to say, millennials. We are talking about millennials, born in the 80's and 90's raised on reality TV. Many did vote Trump, many were democrats.

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I hate that they started calling me a Millennial when I was in my mid-thirties. I was going to tell you that you got your generations mixed up, but I guess Generation Y isn't a thing anymore and somehow I'm lumped in with kids that are in College still today.

I was never a big fan of the "Generation Y" moniker, but I was already going to college before the first season of Survivor aired, I still had dial-up, my friends and I were playing Mario Kart 64 and Goldeneye, Emo wasn't a thing yet, crystal meth was only on the West Coast, gas was 88 cents a gallon, minimum wage was $5.25 and bought a shit ton more, Karaoke was still cool, Trump hadn't done reality TV yet, Bill Clinton was still president, we wouldn't see our first black president for almost a decade and nobody even knew who Barack Obama was, the Twin Towers were still a thing, rap still wasn't mainstream, Auto-Tune wasn't a thing yet, mp3 players weren't a thing yet, Napster was thriving, Metallica hated Napster, kids knew who Metallica was, nobody dreamed that pot would ever be legalized even for medicinal purposes, Facebook wasn't a thing, YouTube wasn't a thing, MySpace wasn't even a thing, smart phones weren't a thing, flip phones weren't even a thing.... I could seriously go on all day about this....

Putting people my age into the same box as college kids today is crazy.

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Second,

You're holding a bucket of FAIL, complaining about it, and asking how you got it. Here's how: you pick of a package of FAIL from the shelf and dutifully mixed the ingredients.

Dems made their own suicide pact with HRC and Bill Maher called it out years ago. To blindly follow team Democrat and hope liberalism will follow is cognitive dissonance.

Trump got a large number of first time votes and first time republican votes. Only half of his voters were traditional republicans. But keep beeping that horn, I'm sure the traffic will move your way.

As for third parties, I disagree. The major problem with third parties is internal. We don't have opposition that believes in being the opposition. We have aux dems and aux gop. To win you have to start with the realization that it doesn't matter who becomes president, because we're never going to get a liberal into the presidency. The closest we ever came was a corporate dixiecrat. Unless it was Trump.

So, screw the presidency. It's still a congressional republic. Elect some liberals to the house and senate, even governors. Reform got Jesse Ventura in. could've kept him if they hadn't fallen apart. We just have to stop being afraid of the splitter mentality. In what way is Hillary Clinton even teh remotest bit a liberal? I mean, like Obama, she's probably a "libtard" as JSF would say, but not in any way liberal. Obama himself said in his campaign that his presidency would offer "no real policy change" over that of George W Bush. So, we elected Bush.lite for 8 years. Big accomplishment. We got an admitted neocon on a democratic ticket, who did so little for liberalism that even his own neighborhood in chicago remained a war torn ghetto. In fact, got worse. Which is why he's not back there. Despite having his own right hand man as mayor. Democrats can't fix it either because they can't or they won't and why does it really matter which?

So, you can go beating the drum for republican.lite, but recognize that Trump's appeal was being not the status quo, in spite of being a billionaire. Pink cat hats are not going to do it.

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Originally posted by SECOND:
“When I hear the president talk about the wall, I think he’s speaking metaphorically.”
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas

www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/us/article/Down-payment-on-bord
er-wall-in-doubt-in-Congress-11075986.php

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Yes, I'm with Cornyn. Please, no wall, Trump, it's not good. I know, it was gonna= be yuge, the biggest, china's got a wall, but ours was going to reach to the moon. Better to just reach of the moon and forget about the wall. It didn't stop the Mongols, after all. Besides, the Mexicans, great people. Not the greatest people. Americans are still the greatest. But Mexicans, great hotels, great food, and hard working people. Fantastic people. Love 'em. But if they want to come over here, they're going to have to apply for citizenship. We got a lot of peopel here from the Mexico. We love 'em. Ven aquí si tú quieres trabajar. ¡Viva Mexico!

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