Is Trump Nuts?

THGRRI

Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:08 AM

Again with the defense of Russia. What I posted does not excuse what Russia did. The smear campaign waged by the Russians and their trolls against Hillary was relentless, and still is. Our threads are full of it. The contacts between Trumps team and Russia that they denied are still under investigation. Two of his team has had to register as foreign agents since news of their connections to Russia broke. His son in laws security clearance is being challenged because he lied about his meeting with Russian agents. And their pulling the same shit with our allies.

No dreamtrove, some of us here can think and chew gun at the same time.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Yes, but my point is that because of his America first positions, it should be easy to find someone who is second guessing their vote after his bombing of Syria. It's anecdotal and means little.

A vast amount of Trumps supporters were Bernie supports. They reside in the Appalachians and Rust belt. They are democrats who have lost everything, are fed up, and want our politicians to get out of the foreign policy game. They may also be afraid because Trump is unpredictable. They may be worried a bump in his poll numbers over the bombing may push him to go all in.

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Spot on. This is pretty much it. I didn't vote for Trump, but I know a lot of people who did. Frankly, in platform points, Trump was a lot closer to Bernie. Half of it was that Trump deliberately copied Sanders' talking points while HRC was busy voting them off the Dem. Party Platform, or her clintonistas were, but Trump took them on because he wanted to win. The larger part is that Trump, like Sanders, is anti-establishment. They represent a vote against the status quo. Hillary really was the status quo.

About 40% of Sanders voters went Trump, only 20% went Hillary. Also, a lot of the normally non-voting population in the rust belt also came out for Trump.

And thanks, T, that is what's really going on. There's no need for Russian hackers or white nationalists, etc.

I find Trump really very predictable. He's running the same sort of scam he ran in NY for years. But who has more pull over him is the question. As long as it's family first, it'll probably be fine. If the McMasters of the world get control of the Donald, we're going to be in a lot of trouble. My take on Clinton would be that she is one of the McMasters, so you're better off with a chance of that than the certainty of it.

That said, it wasn't enough for him to get my vote. I like him more now than I did when he was running, but he would have to actually do something for me to vote for him next time. Like improve the economy. End some wars. And the dems would have to stay on the suicide stampede that they've been on since November. If they nominate someone sane like Warren, i'll probably vote for her. No power in the verse could make me vote for Hillary.

Going to the bar with a buddy tonight who is going to tell me all about how Trump is Clinton's hired fallguy. I'm not drinking that koolaid, but I'm willing to hear the argument.

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