TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Quote:Congress hasn’t declared war since 1942 so there is no war right now. Okay, that makes no sense. Is it Nuclear Armageddon you are worried about? Hillary would be ignoring Global Warming if she blows up the World. What a terrible betrayal of the Democratic party platform! And Bernie would be angry at Hillary. Should she intentionally do that I absolutely would not vote for her a second time.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What good will your "tax cut" do if we are at war?
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
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Quote:No wonder you didn't express your own opinion before. You're a moral horror show.
What good will your "tax cut" do if we are at war? Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?= DIHNY
Congress hasn’t declared war since 1942 so there is no war right now. Okay, that makes no sense. Is it Nuclear Armageddon you are worried about? Hillary would be ignoring Global Warming if she blows up the World. What a terrible betrayal of the Democratic party platform! And Bernie would be angry at Hillary. Should she intentionally do that I absolutely would not vote for her a second time.- SECOND
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Presumed innocent means that FBI does not accuse Hillary of a crime before indicting her.
There's where you start going off the rails, dearie. The FBI didn't accuse hillary of anything. All they said was that they were investigating to see if new evidence existed.
Quote:And there you go again, making shit (literally) up. is that your NORMAL reaction to facts? Yanno, making shit up?
Fortunately, Trump was wearing brown pants when he "lost control of his bowel movement" because he was so furious at the FBI's Comey for backing down.
I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.
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Quote:I'm voting 'sold down river'. I already mentioned it elsewhere - that once hillary becomes president every bit of government corruption and personal self-dealing will be swept under the rug. But you can bet the government will still be spying on us all.
Well, we get to see if the FBI will ever investigate Saudi Princess and operative Huma Abedin, or the criminal enterprise that is the Clinton Foundation, or if we Americans will be sold down river.
I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.
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Originally posted by second:
Congress hasn’t declared war since 1942 so there is no war right now. Okay, that makes no sense. Is it Nuclear Armageddon you are worried about? Hillary would be ignoring Global Warming if she blows up the World. What a terrible betrayal of the Democratic party platform! And Bernie would be angry at Hillary. Should she intentionally do that I absolutely would not vote for her a second time.
I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.
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LMFAO..............Second, thanks for posting this gem.....it's priceless!
I especially love Hawking's comeback - "Trump bad man, real bad man."
Small Words 1 - Big Words 0
Bwah ha ha!
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Originally posted by second:
Stephen Hawking Angers Trump Supporters with Baffling Array of Long Words
By Andy Borowitz , May 31, 2016
LONDON (The Borowitz Report)—The theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking angered supporters of Donald J. Trump on Monday by responding to a question about the billionaire with a baffling array of long words.
Speaking to a television interviewer in London, Hawking called Trump “a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,” a statement that many Trump supporters believed was intentionally designed to confuse them.
Moments after Hawking made the remark, Google reported a sharp increase in searches for the terms “demagogue,” “denominator,” and “Stephen Hawking.”
“For a so-called genius, this was an epic fail,” Trump’s campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, said. “If Professor Hawking wants to do some damage, maybe he should try talking in English next time.”
Later in the day, Hawking attempted to clarify his remark about the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee, telling a reporter, “Trump bad man. Real bad man.”
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Quote:1kiki, how would you react to a headline in today's Houston Post that reads: "FBI clears 1kiki in felony case
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Presumed innocent means that FBI does not accuse Hillary of a crime before indicting her.
There's where you start going off the rails, dearie. The FBI didn't accuse hillary of anything. All they said was that they were investigating to see if new evidence existed.Quote:And there you go again, making shit (literally) up. is that your NORMAL reaction to facts? Yanno, making shit up?
Fortunately, Trump was wearing brown pants when he "lost control of his bowel movement" because he was so furious at the FBI's Comey for backing down.
EARLY VOTING: Surge of new voters propels Harris County’s record turnout"
My reaction would be that the FBI falsely insinuated on Oct 28th that 1kiki was a criminal. And there is evidence out of the mouth Giuliani and Kallstrom that friends of the Trump campaign inside the FBI pushed FBI director to make that false insinuation that 1kiki is a crook.
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/03/meet-donald-trump-s-top-fbi-
fanboy.html
And Trump is full of shit. And he did keep a crowd waiting at the airport for twenty minutes before he walked down the stairs because he was changing his suit. I can't talk to drycleaner about the brown stains on the seat of Trump's pants because of a nondisclosure agreement Trump's lawyers had the drycleaner sign.
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SECOND: And you're still a moral horror show, dearie.
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Time for the trolls to crawl back under the rocks from whence they came.
FBI Completes Review of Newly Revealed Hillary Clinton Emails, Finds No Evidence of Criminality
FBI Director James Comey said Sunday that the bureau won't change the conclusion it made in July after it examined newly revealed emails related to the Hillary Clinton probe.
"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton," Comey wrote in a letter to 16 members of Congress. = THUGR
Shocking! < / jokey voice >
I wonder if that will be the same conclusion after 7 more investigations (like Bengahzi)?
I loved the "Trump rushed from stage" videos that have been circling. I wonder if Mr. NRA 2nd amendment is still all pro gun? Someone just says "gun" and they run away. What a horror show this campaign is. And I thought Palin was an all time low.= GSTRING
And you both are also moral horror shows. My god, I sometimes feel like the only American here. (Well, except for you, GSTRING, since I know you're Canadian. It's OK if you don't keep America's interests at heart.)
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
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So, let's see... who thinks that they benefit from a Hillary Presidency?
The stock market.
The Mexican peso.
The American dollar.
YAY FOR THE PESO! But none of it good for Americans. In fact, I even wonder about SECOND's citizenship sometimes, she is so consistently anti-American.
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Time for the trolls to crawl back under the rocks from whence they came.
FBI Completes Review of Newly Revealed Hillary Clinton Emails, Finds No Evidence of Criminality
FBI Director James Comey said Sunday that the bureau won't change the conclusion it made in July after it examined newly revealed emails related to the Hillary Clinton probe.
"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton," Comey wrote in a letter to 16 members of Congress.
Shocking! < / jokey voice >
I wonder if that will be the same conclusion after 7 more investigations (like Bengahzi) ?
I loved the "Trump rushed from stage" videos that have been circling. I wonder if Mr. NRA 2nd amendment is still all pro gun? Someone just says "gun" and they run away. What a horror show this campaign is. And I thought Palin was an all time low.
She was but in a different way. There is plenty of room at the bottom and Palin and trump both share space there. I noticed SIG in the post below yours thinks she is the only American here. What a whack job. The socialist who loves authoritarianism and hates liberals. No way someone with those beliefs understands what it means to be American.
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Quote:If we're calling each other names, I'd call Signym a scoundrel, as in the phrase "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." That would be per Samuel Johnson, April 7, 1775, as recorded by James Boswell.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And you both are also moral horror shows. My god, I sometimes feel like the only American here. (Well, except for you, GSTRING, since I know you're Canadian. It's OK if you don't keep America's interests at heart.)
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
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Quote:It's the "progressives" here who love authoritarianism. They love TBTB. They love everyplace else except the USA, and everyone else except Americans. They conflate our American interests with the world. They're so sorry about the poor illegal immigrant felons, and the poor Libyans, they think they MUST do "something" abroad without ever thinking about what to do at home.
The socialist who loves authoritarianism and hates liberals.
And they spend ENDLESS amounts of time bitching about Putin and kvetching about Russia... yanno, online, the only people who spend as much time talking about Russia are Russians!
These self-proclaimed progressives are deeply interested in what everyone else does, and see fit to intervene in the entire world without trying to even identify the problems here.
They can't figure out what AMERICA'S INTERESTS ARE, and they dare not even try to answer the question because it might bring that topic into view. They love - or at least tolerate- the corruption that Big Money brings. They lie, to themselves and consequently to everyone else. "Business as usual" and "We are special" are their mottoes.
I have never seen as hidebound, moralistic, and nasty bunch of "believers" as these socalled "progressives" except the neocons.
They are UNPRINCIPLED. Everything is relativism and convenience. That is why they NEVER discuss reality or causation. And they will never, but NEVER, look at the horror that their ideology has wrought, or where it will yet lead.
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Quote:And here is an example of one of those non-American "progressives" who will use lies, snark, and more lies, just to evade THINKING about what they're doing.
Looks like she's hungover again. 3... 2... 1... add raging spittle... ready projectile bile... fire!
GSTRING, you just love taking cheap shots. And that's what you are: cheap. Just a stoopid millennial who can't be parted form his iPhone. But since you're Canadian, who the fuck cares what you think of American politics?
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:And here is an example of one of those non-American "progressives" who will use lies, snark, and more lies, just to evade THINKING about what they're doing.
Looks like she's hungover again. 3... 2... 1... add raging spittle... ready projectile bile... fire!
GSTRING, you just love taking cheap shots. And that's what you are: cheap. Just a stoopid millennial who can't be parted form his iPhone. But since you're Canadian, who the fuck cares what you think of American politics?
Fist SIG, these threads are full of lies and deceptions posted by you over the years here, so you statement is quite funny.
Secondly, it's also funny you the Russia troll has the audacity to call our Canadian allies anti American.
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Quote:Chart of the Day: Donald Trump Is the Most Dishonest Politician Alive
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
They can't figure out what AMERICA'S INTERESTS ARE, and they dare not even try to answer the question because it might bring that topic into view. They love - or at least tolerate- the corruption that Big Money brings. They lie, to themselves and consequently to everyone else. "Business as usual" and "We are special" are their mottoes.
I have never seen as hidebound, moralistic, and nasty bunch of "believers" as these socalled "progressives" except the neocons.
They are UNPRINCIPLED. Everything is relativism and convenience. That is why they NEVER discuss reality or causation. And they will never, but NEVER, look at the horror that their ideology has wrought, or where it will yet lead.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/nov/01/truth-check-clint
on-and-trump-truth-o-meter-1-week/
For the arithmetically challenged, 51 percent of Trump's statement were categorically false, compared to 13 percent of Clinton's.
The only reason I'm putting this up is because we've all gotten so bored with it. Trump lies so consistently and so baldly that we barely even notice it anymore unless he says something truly outrageous—with the bar for "outrageous" moving upward all the time. Trump has ushered in an era of not merely exaggerating or cherry picking or twisting or evading. He just says anything he wants, and his followers buy it. Hey Trump followers, this isn't normal, and you shouldn't accept it as normal.
Signym, nobody here but maybe 1kiki thinks you are an authentic citizen of the USA, or even a real person. That is why you get accused of being a Russian troll. You just write things for affect. Trump does the same, but we know he is real. You can't convince anybody you're anything but a fake.
If you are real, my apologies. Please get help from your local mental health providers.
The real people I know supporting Trump do it for real reasons that are perfectly understandable. I just don't share their values. You, on the other hand, give reasons that nobody real could believe, other than the mentally ill. You're terrible at political philosophy and abstract reasoning. I even understand why Trump is doing what he does. He has reasons to be who he is. Again, I just don't share his values. I find him forgivable. You are just loathsome. Trump I simple don't want to be President, but I can live with him. You will still be yourself, whoever the hell you really are, no matter whether Trump wins or loses tomorrow. Too bad for you.
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Quote:second, you're confused. First you claim that the FBI ACCUSED hillary. NOW you're complaining about the headlines - which - NOTE - are NOT the FBI.
1kiki, how would you react to a headline in today's Houston Post that reads: "FBI clears 1kiki in felony case
So, we're agreed - THE FBI NEVER ACCUSED hillary.
As as for your propensity to lie, do you mean THIS headline, second?
https://www.pressreader.com/usa/houston-chronicle/20161107/28149216088
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FBI clears Clinton in email case
I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.
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Quote:On Oct 29th the FBI joined the Trump campaign for President. On Nov 6th the FBI stopped campaigning for Trump. To make that concrete for 1kiki:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
second, you're confused. First you claim that the FBI ACCUSED hillary. NOW you're complaining about the headlines - which - NOTE - are NOT the FBI.
So, we're agreed - THE FBI NEVER ACCUSED hillary.
As as for your propensity to lie, do you mean THIS headline, second?
Would you have praised the FBI for rekindling a controversy involving a felony that you, 1kiki, was accused of only for the FBI to say "Never mind" on Nov 6th? By rekindling I mean the FBI goes to 1kiki’s workplace, while 1kiki is there, and gathers all co-workers and bosses to tell them you might have committed a felony. The FBI goes to 1kiki’s neighborhood, while 1kiki is there, and gathers all 1kiki’s neighbors to tell them you might have committed a felony. Is that normal for the FBI? No. It is not normal for the FBI to do the same to Hillary.
Do you remember this story from Oct 29th?
Quote:More defensible would have been the FBI waiting until yesterday to either drop a bombshell that Hillary would be indicted or else the FBI silently finishes reading Wienergate emails and announces nothing publicly about even the existence of the emails.
The FBI rattled the presidential race Friday by announcing it is again probing emails that might be related to her private server, rekindling a politically damaging controversy for Clinton and reinvigorating Republicans scrambling to hold on to congressional seats.
Because Comey had told Congress that the FBI had finished investigating Clinton’s server, he felt he needed to let lawmakers know that agents were looking into the case again in light of the recent discovery, the official said.
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Yeah no 1kiki. We all know you not SECOND to be the liar here.
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Just as a quick recap:
1) Trump built his early political notoriety via “birtherism,” explicitly working to undermine the legitimacy of our elected President.
2) He has continually vilified immigrants and foreigners generally, promoting an us-against-them mentality between people of different races and ethnicities.
3) He has pledged to violate the Constitutional principle of freedom of religion, from banning Muslims from entering the country to tracking ones that are here.
4) His campaign, and the Republican party more generally, has openly engaged in suppressing the vote from groups unlikely to support him. (“‘We have three major voter suppression operations underway,’ says a senior [Trump] official.”) www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign-voter-sup
pression.html?_r=0
5) He has glorified violence against protesters who disagree with him. www.weeklystandard.com/protester-would-be-carried-out-on-a-stretcher-i
n-the-old-days-trump-reminisces/article/2001211
6) He has lied at an unprecedented, astonishing rate, secure in the knowledge that his statements will be taken as true by a large fraction of his intended audience. www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unau
thorized-database-of-false-things.html
7) He has presented himself as a uniquely powerful strongman who can solve problems through his personal force of will, and spoke admiringly of dictators from Vladimir Putin to Kim Jong-un to Saddam Hussein. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/21/trump-doubles-do
wn-fear-justifies-a-strongman/
8) He has vowed that if he wins the election, he will seek vengeance on those who opposed him, including throwing his opponent into prison. www.salon.com/2016/10/10/donald-trump-town-hall-debate-arrest-hillary-
clinton/
9) He has repeatedly cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election outcome, implying that he would refuse to accept the result if he lost.
10) He has pointed fingers at a shadowy global conspiracy in charge of world finance, often with explicitly anti-Semitic overtones. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-defamation-league-donald-trump_us_58
1f6a6ce4b0aac624850cbf
11) Several Republican politicians have broached the prospect of refusing to confirm any Supreme Court nominees from a Democratic President. https://thefederalist.com/2016/10/26/senate-refuse-confirm-hillary-cli
ntons-judicial-nominees/
12) A government agency, the FBI, has interfered in a Presidential election. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/31/james-comey-fbi-hillary-clinto
n-hatch-act-election
13) Republicans have accused Democratic officeholders of being traitors. https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/status/795471264756465671
14) A number of Trump supporters have spoken of the prospect of violent resistance if Clinton is elected. www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html
This is not a list of “why Donald Trump is a bad person who is disastrously unqualified for the Presidency”; that would be much longer. Rather, I wanted to highlight features of the campaign that are specifically attacks on (small-“d”) democratic norms and values. The assumptions, often unspoken, by which legitimate political opponents have generally agreed to operate by over the course of the last two centuries and more.
Democracy is a curious and fragile thing. It’s not just “majority rules”; crucial to the project are the ideas that (1) minority rights are still respected, and (2) in return, losing minorities respect electoral outcomes. It’s the second of these that is under siege at the moment. Since the time of the Federalist Papers, it’s been understood that democracy is an attempt to provide common self-rule for people who don’t agree on everything, but who at least share the common values of democracy itself. Having strong, even extremely passionate, political disagreements is inevitable in a democratic system. The question is whether we cast those with whom we disagree as enemies, traitors, and cheate
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Quote:This from the frankly delusional person of the board. You've become the new PirateNews, except to half as smart.
Yeah no 1kiki. We all know you not SECOND to be the liar here.= THUGR
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
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Would you have praised the FBI for rekindling a controversy involving a felony that you, 1kiki, was accused of only for the FBI to say "Never mind" on Nov 6th?
Well, hon, the FBI never 'accused' hillary, not the first time and not the reprise.
You're still deeply confused. I suggest you look up the legal definition of 'accuse'.
eta - to help you out - to be accused of something means you've been charged with a crime - usually after being arrested.
I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.
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Extremely well put, argued and expressed. To the point, concise and poignant.
This is about Democracy (with a capital D) and not a dictatorship. Every 4 years we elect a new president, but we also vote for representatives to help run the country. In recent years, ever since Obama has won the office, that has been distorted to a high degree, because of a "handful" of dissidents who refuse to accept a man, a highly educated man, can efficiently run the country merely because he's a Democrat.
I watched Trump's rally tonight in Michigan, and he stated that he was running for the presidency to "restore" the country to greatness. That implies that we are no longer great. Since when, exactly!? He also said something that was surprising, not so much that he thought it, but that he said it out loud...and I'm paraphrasing:
He said that there would be one America with one religion and one people.
Now that's scary.
SGG
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Originally posted by second:
Just as a quick recap:
1) Trump built his early political notoriety via “birtherism,” explicitly working to undermine the legitimacy of our elected President.
2) He has continually vilified immigrants and foreigners generally, promoting an us-against-them mentality between people of different races and ethnicities.
3) He has pledged to violate the Constitutional principle of freedom of religion, from banning Muslims from entering the country to tracking ones that are here.
4) His campaign, and the Republican party more generally, has openly engaged in suppressing the vote from groups unlikely to support him. (“‘We have three major voter suppression operations underway,’ says a senior [Trump] official.”) www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign-voter-sup
pression.html?_r=0
5) He has glorified violence against protesters who disagree with him. www.weeklystandard.com/protester-would-be-carried-out-on-a-stretcher-i
n-the-old-days-trump-reminisces/article/2001211
6) He has lied at an unprecedented, astonishing rate, secure in the knowledge that his statements will be taken as true by a large fraction of his intended audience. www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unau
thorized-database-of-false-things.html
7) He has presented himself as a uniquely powerful strongman who can solve problems through his personal force of will, and spoke admiringly of dictators from Vladimir Putin to Kim Jong-un to Saddam Hussein. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/21/trump-doubles-do
wn-fear-justifies-a-strongman/
8) He has vowed that if he wins the election, he will seek vengeance on those who opposed him, including throwing his opponent into prison. www.salon.com/2016/10/10/donald-trump-town-hall-debate-arrest-hillary-
clinton/
9) He has repeatedly cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election outcome, implying that he would refuse to accept the result if he lost.
10) He has pointed fingers at a shadowy global conspiracy in charge of world finance, often with explicitly anti-Semitic overtones. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-defamation-league-donald-trump_us_58
1f6a6ce4b0aac624850cbf
11) Several Republican politicians have broached the prospect of refusing to confirm any Supreme Court nominees from a Democratic President. https://thefederalist.com/2016/10/26/senate-refuse-confirm-hillary-cli
ntons-judicial-nominees/
12) A government agency, the FBI, has interfered in a Presidential election. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/31/james-comey-fbi-hillary-clinto
n-hatch-act-election
13) Republicans have accused Democratic officeholders of being traitors. https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/status/795471264756465671
14) A number of Trump supporters have spoken of the prospect of violent resistance if Clinton is elected. www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html
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More defensible would have been the FBI waiting until yesterday to either drop a bombshell that Hillary would be indicted or else the FBI silently finishes reading Wienergate emails and announces nothing publicly about even the existence of the emails.
True. Say nothing until such time as you have damning evidence (this goes for any government agency or public servant). And if you're going to reveal that there's an investigation taking place, then more info regarding the evidence should be subsequently released. End of story.
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Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
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For the arithmetically challenged, 51 percent of Trump's statement were categorically false, compared to 13 percent of Clinton's.
Do you really believe that
The 30,000 emails on her server were all "personal"?
She really didn't know what she was doing when she ordered those emails to be erased?
She didn't know about cleaning a server when she said "you mean like with a cloth?"
She "didn't remember" about 20 thing when being questioned by Congress?
Benghazi was caused by a movie?
17 agencies had proof that Russia was behind the DNC hacks?
And that the Russians were trying to interfere with our election
And that Trump was a Putin minion?
ISIS is using videos of Donald Trump?
That Trump is ISIS "best recruiter"?
She landed "under sniper fire" in Bosnia?
That all of her grandparents were immigrants?
"I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning".
Chelsea Clinton was jogging around WTC on 9-11
"Dead broke" leaving the WH
"Instrumental in the N Ireland peace process"
A "no fly zone" will save lives in Syria.
Hillary lies with forethought. Nothing comes out of her mouth that hasn't been approved and tested.
One of the things that will NOT move me, SECOND, is any reference to Trump's personality flaws because Hillary is just as deeply flawed... more so, if you look at how she plays footsie with and the number of people that she's advocated killing.
That is one of her big downsides, and the one that you can never seem to address.
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
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Quote:Signym, on Hillary and Trump you have become unhinged from reality. Seek help from Glenn Beck. After 8 years where none of his daily predictions ever came true about future disasters caused by Democrats, Glenn Beck had this to say about Trump:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Do you really believe that ? . . . Hillary lies with forethought. Nothing comes out of her mouth that hasn't been approved and tested. One of the things that will NOT move me, SECOND, is any reference to Trump's personality flaws because Hillary is just as deeply flawed...
Glenn Beck told a story of Trump summoning him to a guest room at Mar-a-Lago; Trump then telephoned him from an adjacent room. “We had this weird, almost Howard Hughes-like conversation,” Beck said. He left convinced that Trump was nuts. “This guy is dangerously unhinged,” he said. “And, for all the things people have said about me over the years, I should be able to spot Dangerously Unhinged.”
Beck went on, “What’s most tragic about this is us. We have, as a culture, embraced the bad guys. I love Tony Soprano. But, when a Tony Soprano shows up in your life, you don’t love him so much.”
“We’ve made everything into a game show,” he said, “and now we’re reaping the consequences of it.”
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/14/glenn-beck-tries-out-decency
From his professional experience on FOX, the game show reference was Glenn Beck being sadly aware of sophists saying anything, even flat lies, to win the game they are playing on TV or radio or fireflyfans.net.
Quote:I don’t address your concerns because I think you are like Glenn Beck before he tried to be a decent person. He was making predictions that never came true and warning of conspiracies to overthrow Democracy that never happened, no matter how many years passed. After many years of being wrong, Glenn Beck slowly began to notice his errors. Too bad for you not having Glenn Beck’s big audience to tell you a million times that you’re wrong.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That is one of her big downsides, and the one that you can never seem to address.
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/14/glenn-beck-tries-out-decency
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:This from the frankly delusional person of the board. You've become the new PirateNews, except to half as smart.
Yeah no 1kiki. We all know you not SECOND to be the liar here.= THUGR
Open your eyes SIG, look in the mirror. It's you who cuts and pastes all the negative bullshit in these threads. It's you starting thread after thread of bitching and moaning.
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Yes, and it's telling that 1kiki and SIG favor the candidate whose statements on how he would govern, resembles a dictator. Very telling, and makes the point I have been making about them since I arrived in theses threads. They are Russian trolls. Even if per chance they do now reside in the United States, they are Russian trolls.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Extremely well put, argued and expressed. To the point, concise and poignant.
This is about Democracy (with a capital D) and not a dictatorship. Every 4 years we elect a new president, but we also vote for representatives to help run the country. In recent years, ever since Obama has won the office, that has been distorted to a high degree, because of a "handful" of dissidents who refuse to accept a man, a highly educated man, can efficiently run the country merely because he's a Democrat.
I watched Trump's rally tonight in Michigan, and he stated that he was running for the presidency to "restore" the country to greatness. That implies that we are no longer great. Since when, exactly!? He also said something that was surprising, not so much that he thought it, but that he said it out loud...and I'm paraphrasing:
He said that there would be one America with one religion and one people.
Now that's scary.
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Just as a quick recap:
1) Trump built his early political notoriety via “birtherism,” explicitly working to undermine the legitimacy of our elected President.
2) He has continually vilified immigrants and foreigners generally, promoting an us-against-them mentality between people of different races and ethnicities.
3) He has pledged to violate the Constitutional principle of freedom of religion, from banning Muslims from entering the country to tracking ones that are here.
4) His campaign, and the Republican party more generally, has openly engaged in suppressing the vote from groups unlikely to support him. (“‘We have three major voter suppression operations underway,’ says a senior [Trump] official.”) www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign-voter-sup
pression.html?_r=0
5) He has glorified violence against protesters who disagree with him. www.weeklystandard.com/protester-would-be-carried-out-on-a-stretcher-i
n-the-old-days-trump-reminisces/article/2001211
6) He has lied at an unprecedented, astonishing rate, secure in the knowledge that his statements will be taken as true by a large fraction of his intended audience. www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unau
thorized-database-of-false-things.html
7) He has presented himself as a uniquely powerful strongman who can solve problems through his personal force of will, and spoke admiringly of dictators from Vladimir Putin to Kim Jong-un to Saddam Hussein. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/21/trump-doubles-do
wn-fear-justifies-a-strongman/
8) He has vowed that if he wins the election, he will seek vengeance on those who opposed him, including throwing his opponent into prison. www.salon.com/2016/10/10/donald-trump-town-hall-debate-arrest-hillary-
clinton/
9) He has repeatedly cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election outcome, implying that he would refuse to accept the result if he lost.
10) He has pointed fingers at a shadowy global conspiracy in charge of world finance, often with explicitly anti-Semitic overtones. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-defamation-league-donald-trump_us_58
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11) Several Republican politicians have broached the prospect of refusing to confirm any Supreme Court nominees from a Democratic President. https://thefederalist.com/2016/10/26/senate-refuse-confirm-hillary-cli
ntons-judicial-nominees/
12) A government agency, the FBI, has interfered in a Presidential election. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/31/james-comey-fbi-hillary-clinto
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I WEEP FOR MY COUNTRY...........JFK just turned over in his grave!
This is a sad state of affairs, stock market is crashing and they just put a hold on the Futures Market. This will reverberate around the world.
SGG
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose
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Um, you were saying.....
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
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JFK just turned over in his grave
I'm old enough to have known JFK, and believe me, hillary is no JFK. Bad paraphrases aside, I don't know that JFK would even have recognized the greedy, corrupt hillary as a democrat. Or if he did, it would have been as the Tammany Hall style boss-type. Democrats need to aspire to be something better than that.
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Quote:The world is overreacting, anticipating disaster from Trump.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
THGRRI, Second, G, Mal4Prez, Joy
I WEEP FOR MY COUNTRY...........JFK just turned over in his grave!
This is a sad state of affairs, stock market is crashing and they just put a hold on the Futures Market. This will reverberate around the world.
SGG
I was going to wait until after Trump gave his first State of the Union address before blaming him for all the woes in the world, but then I read:
"In years when a new president is inaugurated, the outgoing president may deliver a final State of the Union message, but none has done so since Jimmy Carter sent a written message in 1981. In 1953 and 1961, Congress received both a written State of the Union message from the outgoing president and a separate State of the Union speech by the incoming president. Since 1989, in recognition that the responsibility of reporting the State of the Union formally belongs to the president who held office during the past year, newly inaugurated Presidents have not officially called their first speech before Congress a "State of the Union" message."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_Union
In my opinion the blame falls on Trump starting on the day he is inaugurated. Until then, don't worry, be happy, stock-markets of the world because Trump might not keep any of his promises!
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Quote:The Clintons in permanent political retirement will be good for the Democratic party.
Originally posted by G:
Funny - I just heard the garbage trucks pull up out front as they do on this day every week. I immediately thought: "I wonder how long that will continue?"
The best thing? The best thing is I don't have to hear people bitch about Hillary for 4 years.
Trump has a clever scheme to enrich bankers and himself. Wall St bankers really will fill garbage trucks and dump them into suckers' investment portfolios.
Trump’s pose as an anti-finance populist may be the single greatest trick of his entire campaign. Alongside some rhetoric, after all, Trump has an actual policy agenda that he is running on — and that agenda is incredibly favorable to bankers. He wants less regulation of banks and lower taxes for hedge fund and private equity managers.
And despite repeatedly attacking Clinton for her ties to Wall Street, Trump has close ties to the banking industry himself. His real estate empire has created a network of conflicts of interest (and opportunities to massively enrich himself) never before seen in an American president.
The details of how Trump can really become the ten-billionaire he already claimed to be are at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/9/13573294/donald-trump-financ
ial-regulation
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In my opinion the blame falls on Trump starting on the day he is inaugurated. Until then, don't worry, be happy, stock-markets of the world because Trump might not keep any of his promises![\quote]
Ah, I feel so much better now that you've said that.....okay, that was half tongue-in-cheek. Actually, I agree with you. Stock markets did rebound, but I still weep for this country. In a way, I kind of thought this might happen and this may turn out to be good for the country.
Once and for all the so-called alt-right will get what they deserve. Let's step back and give the man space, let him get the elbow room he needs to perform miracles. Ready, Begin!
SGG
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Once again, you have completely miss the boat, peer, river, ocean......
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
JFK just turned over in his grave
I'm old enough to have known JFK, and believe me, hillary is no JFK. Bad paraphrases aside, I don't know that JFK would even have recognized the greedy, corrupt hillary as a democrat. Or if he did, it would have been as the Tammany Hall style boss-type. Democrats need to aspire to be something better than that.
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"The best thing? The best thing is I don't have to hear people bitch about Hillary for 4 years."
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!!!
Give that man a cigar. How does that quote go: "You don't have Hillary Clinton to kick around anymore."
All I know is this monkey better dance REAL GOOD!
SGG
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Ah, come on Second! You're gonna spoil the surprise. Rude Awakening meet Trumpsters............Trumpsters - how you like me now!?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The Clintons in permanent political retirement will be good for the Democratic party.
Originally posted by G:
Funny - I just heard the garbage trucks pull up out front as they do on this day every week. I immediately thought: "I wonder how long that will continue?"
The best thing? The best thing is I don't have to hear people bitch about Hillary for 4 years.
Trump has a clever scheme to enrich bankers and himself. Wall St bankers really will fill garbage trucks and dump them into suckers' investment portfolios.
Trump’s pose as an anti-finance populist may be the single greatest trick of his entire campaign. Alongside some rhetoric, after all, Trump has an actual policy agenda that he is running on — and that agenda is incredibly favorable to bankers. He wants less regulation of banks and lower taxes for hedge fund and private equity managers.
And despite repeatedly attacking Clinton for her ties to Wall Street, Trump has close ties to the banking industry himself. His real estate empire has created a network of conflicts of interest (and opportunities to massively enrich himself) never before seen in an American president.
The details of how Trump can really become the ten-billionaire he already claimed to be are at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/9/13573294/donald-trump-financ
ial-regulation
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The American Brexit. In June, Britain voted to leave Europe. Yesterday, America voted to leave America.
Donald Trump came to the Detroit Economic Club, and stood there in front of the Ford Motor executives, and said, ‘If you close these factories as you’re planning to do in Detroit and build them in Mexico, I’m going to put a 35 percent tariff on those cars when you send them back, and nobody is going to buy them.’ It was an amazing thing to see. No politician, Republican or Democrat, had ever said anything like that to these executives. And it was music to the ears of people in Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. The Brexit states. … Whether Trump means it or not is kind of irrelevant because he’s saying the things to people who are hurting. And it’s why every beaten-down, nameless, forgotten working stiff, who used to be part of what was called the middle class, loves Trump. He is the human Molotov cocktail that they’ve been waiting for. The human hand grenade that they can legally throw into the system that stole their lives from them. And on Nov. 8, Election Day, although they’ve lost their jobs, although they’ve been foreclosed on by the bank, next came the divorce and now the wife and kids are gone, the car’s been repo’d, they haven’t had a real vacation in years, they’re stuck with the sh–ty Obamacare bronze plan, where you can’t even get a f—ing Percocet. They’ve essentially lost everything they had, except one thing. The one thing that doesn’t cost them a cent and is guaranteed to them by the American Constitution: the right to vote. They might be penniless, they might be homeless, they might be f—ed over and f—ed up, it doesn’t matter. Because it’s equalized on that day: a millionaire has the same number of votes as the person without a job, one. And there’s more of the former middle class than there are in the millionaire class.
So on Nov. 8, the dispossessed will walk into the voting booth, be handed a ballot, close the curtain, and take that lever or felt pen or touch screen and put a big f—ing ‘X’ in the box by the name of the man who has threatened to upend and overturn the very system that has ruined their lives: Donald J. Trump.
They see that the elites, who ruined their lives, hate Trump. Corporate America hates Trump. Wall Street hates Trump. The career politicians hate Trump. The media hates Trump – after they loved him, and created him, and now hate him. Thank you, media. The enemy of my enemy is who I’m voting for on Nov. 8. Yes, on Nov. 8, you: Joe Blow, Steve Blow, Bob Blow, Billy Blow, Billy Bob Blow, all the Blows get to go and blow up the whole goddamn system, because it’s your right. Trump’s election is going to be the biggest ‘f— you’ ever recorded in human history. And it will feel good. For a day. Maybe a week. Possibly a month. And then? Like the Brits, who wanted to send a message, so they voted to leave Europe. Only to find out, that if you voted to leave Europe, you actually have to leave Europe. And now they regret it. All the Ohioans, Pennsylvanians, Michiganders, and Wisconsinites of Middle England, right? They all voted to leave, and now they regret it – and over 4 million of them have signed a petition to have a do-over. They want another election. It ain’t going to happen. Because you used the ballot as an anger-management tool. And now you’re f—ed. And the rest of Europe? They’re like, ‘Bye, Felicia.’
So when the rightfully angry people of Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin find out after a few months in office that President Trump wasn’t going to do a damn thing for them, it’ll be too late for them to do anything about it. But I get it. You wanted to send a message. You had righteous anger, and justifiable anger. Well, message sent. Good night, America. You just elected the last President of the United States.
www.ew.com/article/2016/11/09/michael-moore-trumpland
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Quote:Playing for laughs, a reference to a future Trump presidency was seen in the Back To The Future films.
Originally posted by G:
. . . I will acknowledge and respect the thrift and ingenuity of it, and I will do those things while I also enjoy a hearty, American-sized gallows laugh.
In the second movie, released in 1989, the trilogy's villain, Biff Tannen, is seen becoming a successful businessman, which leads him to open a 27-story casino and, more pertinently, use his money to influence US politics.
Fans long believed that this was based on Trump - a theory which was confirmed by the film's writer last year.
Asked about the similarities between Tannen and Trump, Bob Gale told The Daily Beast: "We thought about it when we made the movie."
Gale highlighted one scene in particular that appeared to allude to Trump.
"There's a scene where Marty confronts Biff in his office and there's a huge portrait of Biff on the wall behind Biff, and there's one moment where Biff kind of stands up and he takes exactly the same pose as the portrait," he said.
In the movie, Biff uses the profits from his casino to shake up the Republican Party, before eventually assuming political power himself. He is later seen transforming California's Hill Valley into a town riddled with crime and corruption.
Trump was elected president 27 years after Back To The Future Part II was released.
www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37936369
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Politicians make wild promises they couldn’t possibly keep before retracting statements as soon as they are safely installed in office (such as Trump removing references to banning all Muslims from coming into the US off his website).
Donald Trump statement on banning Muslims from US disappears from his website
Exclusive: Passage posted on 7 December 2015 mysteriously vanishes late on day of election
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-president-elect
ion-muslim-ban-immigrants-website-statement-removed-a7408466.html
On the same night that millions of votes were pouring in for the real estate mogul turned politician, the page linking to his December 2015 statement was removed.
The page now redirects to a page encouraging voters to donate to his campaign.
The page was available on the morning of the election on 8 November, according to online caches studied by The Independent. But the redirect was added later the same night.
Caches like the Wayback Machine work by crawling websites intermittently and making a copy of what it finds there. As such, it is not possible to say exactly what time the redirect was added, but only that the change had been made between those two times it was crawled.
Mr Trump was widely condemned for his call shortly after the terrorist attacks in Paris in November 2015 to temporarily ban all Muslims from entering the country until he figured out "what the hell was going on".
The Republican and his allies have consistently defended the ban, insisting the measure was about Americans’ "safety" and not about discriminating against religion. Videos and speeches defending the ban remain on the Trump campaign website.
The Trump campaign could not be immediately contacted.
It would not be the first time the Trump team has scrubbed pages from its websites.
After speculation rose that Melania Trump did not not complete her university degree, her biography page was taken down and redirected to the homepage for Mr Trump’s golf course.
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Islamist extremists welcome Trump's victory
by Kareem Shaheen Thursday 10 November 2016 15.45 EST
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/10/islamic-extremists-welcome-don
ald-trump-victory
Abdullah al-Muhaisny, a key authority among radical circles in Syria, says Trump presidency will sow division and expose west’s hatred of Muslims
Jihadis have welcomed Donald Trump’s surprise victory in the American presidential race, saying his election would sow greater division and expose what they described as the hatred and racism of the west towards Muslims.
The endorsement of the election result by extreme Islamist figures highlighted fears that Trump’s divisive rhetoric and call to ban Muslims from entering the US could empower radicals who have argued that the west seeks Islam’s destruction and is at war with its adherents.
The idea has been central to Islamic State propaganda – at its height the terror group called on Muslims to abandon life abroad and flock to the territories it controls or risk indignity and oppression in western societies.
“Trump’s victory is an important step towards the victory of the Sunnis,” said Abdullah al-Muhaisny, a key authority among radical circles in Syria, who is believed by the US to be in league with al-Qaida.
“We have long tried to explain that the fight is not against terrorism, but against the Sunnis, and the mujahideen are just the frontline,” he added in a series of tweets on Thursday. “The American strategy will not change much, what has changed is that the war is open and not secret, and that is a good thing.”
Muhaisny said Trump’s victory will lay the groundwork for “bloody battles and great chaos,” saying he hoped the president-elect’s strategy of “exclusion and crushing opponents” will sow greater division in America.
Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi, a key intellectual figure in al-Qaida who once shared a cell with Isis founder Abu Mus’ab al-Zarqawi, said he hoped Trump’s election would herald America’s ruin.
“Trump reveals the real mentality of the Americans and their racism towards Muslims and Arabs and everything,” he said in a tweet. “He only reveals what his predecessors have kept hidden.”
Rita Katz, the director of Site Intelligence, an organisation that tracks jihadi chatter on social media and online forums, said militants were predicting that Trump’s election would unite the ranks of jihadis and expose latent hatred towards Muslims.
Katz tweeted: “Pro-#ISIS & #Jihadis say they “prefer” #Trump to #Clinton because he is “telling Muslims what half of America thinks of them.”
Hamza Caribi, who runs a Twitter account affiliated with Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, the former al-Qaida wing in Syria, said Trump proved the failure of democracy. “From this day forward we will no longer need videos explaining the west’s plots,” he said. “We will only need to retweet what Trump says.”
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Just OOC, do you call yourself "SECOND" because your opinions are second-hand? Or because they're second-rate?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Quote:In September, the U.S. Justice Department proposed that Deutsche Bank AG pay $14 billion to settle a set of high-profile mortgage-securities probes stemming from the financial crisis.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just OOC, do you call yourself "SECOND" because your opinions are second-hand? Or because they're second-rate?
That fine is unlikely to ever be imposed, now that one of Deutsche Bank’s biggest borrowers – Trump – will soon be sitting in the White House.
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/10/trump-presidency-could-be-worth-14
-billion-to-his-troubled-lender/
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Quote:Trump ran on protecting Social Security but his transition team includes privatizers.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just OOC, do you call yourself "SECOND" because your opinions are second-hand? Or because they're second-rate?
At the Miami GOP presidential debate in March, he said he would “do everything within my power not to touch Social Security, to leave it the way it is; to make this country rich again.” In August, his campaign told CNNMoney that “We will not cut Medicare or Social Security benefits, but protect them both.”
But two of the people said to be helming the president-elect’s Social Security Administration (SSA) transition team have a record of hostility to the program:
1) Mike Korbey is a long-time right-wing activist who has argued incorrectly that Social Security is “broken and bankrupt.” He worked for an organization called United Seniors Association, a sort of conservative counterpart to the AARP, that pushed for George W. Bush’s Social Security privatization scheme — and was hired by Bush to help tout his failed push for changes.
2) Dorcas Hardy, a Reagan administration SSA veteran, has also called for privatizing the program — in 1995, she took part in a press conference at the libertarian Cato Institute to advocate for that idea.
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/10/donald-trump-ran-on-protecting-soc
ial-security-but-transition-team-includes-privatizers/
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Trump campaigned against lobbyists. Now they’re on his transition team.
After campaigned against the corrupt power of special interests, he is filling his transition team with the very same people he has complained have too much clout in Washington: corporate consultants and lobbyists:
1) Jeffrey Eisenach, a consultant who has worked for years on behalf of Verizon and other telecommunications clients, is the head of the team that is helping to pick staff members at the Federal Communications Commission.
2) Michael Catanzaro, a lobbyist whose clients include Devon Energy and Encana Oil and Gas, holds the “energy independence” portfolio. Mr. Catanzaro’s client list is a who’s who of major corporate players.
3) Michael Torrey, a lobbyist who runs a firm that has earned millions of dollars helping food industry players such as the American Beverage Association and the dairy giant Dean Foods, is helping set up the new team at the Department of Agriculture.
4) Michael McKenna, another lobbyist helping to pick key administration officials who will oversee energy policy, has a client list that this year has included the Southern Company, one of the most vocal critics of efforts to prevent climate change by putting limits on emissions from coal-burning power plants.
5) Martin Whitmer is overseeing “transportation and infrastructure” for the Trump transition. He is the chairman of a Washington law firm whose lobbying clients include the Association of American Railroads and the National Asphalt Pavement Association.
6) David Malpass, the former chief economist at Bear Stearns, the Wall Street investment bank that collapsed during the 2008 financial crisis, is overseeing the “economic issues” portfolio of the transition, as well as operations at the Treasury Department. Mr. Malpass now runs a firm called Encima Global, which sells economic research to institutional investors and corporate clients.
7) Dan DiMicco, a former chief executive of the steelmaking company Nucor, who now serves on the board of directors of Duke Energy, is heading the transition team for the Office of the United States Trade Representative.
Trump’s spokeswoman, Hope Hicks, declined a request for comment, as did nearly a dozen corporate executives, consultants and lobbyists serving on his transition team, which was outlined in a list distributed widely in Washington on Thursday.
www.documentcloud.org/documents/3217279-2016-11-10-Transition-Team-Lis
t.html
One of the reasons you had such anger among voters is people rigging the system, gaming the system. This represents more of the same. Voters responded to Trump’s vow to restore the voices of forgotten people, ones drowned out by big business and Wall Street.
http://msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-campaigned-against-lobbyists-
now-they%E2%80%99re-on-his-transition-team/ar-AAk9Rg3?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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Just OOC, do you call yourself "SECOND" because your opinions are second-hand? Or because they're second-rate? = SIGNY
Huh? That's not even a little funny or even a bit creative - disappointing. Come on Hillary, you can do better! =GSTRING
Since when did personal attacks require creativity or even accuracy? I mean, hell, you and THUGR don't take any prizes for either one! And it's not like you didn't try enough times!
Can dish it out, can't take it. What a crybaby.
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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NOW THAT TRUMP IS PRESIDENT
the immediate threat of neo-CON run government, spy agencies and military working in lockstep is gone. Not for good, because the threat won't be gone until the neo-CONS are purged, but there won't be a critical mass of them brought together in the near future.
NOW is the time for progressives and democratic socialists, environmentalists and freedom-lovers, to come together and leave the rotting husk of the 'democratic' party behind.
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NOW THAT TRUMP IS PRESIDENT
the immediate threat of neo-CON run government, spy agencies and military working in lockstep is gone. Not for good, because the threat won't be gone until the neo-CONS are purged, but there won't be a critical mass of them brought together in the near future.
NOW is the time for progressives and democratic socialists, environmentalists and freedom-lovers, to come together and leave the rotting husk of the 'democratic' party behind.= KIKI
I've mentioned before that Trump needs to fire a lot of people, starting with all of those America-hating neocons who "put their name out there" for the future Hitlery admin (HAHAHAHAHA!) by saying this like "we need more war in Syria". Fortunately, since this was all public, Trump and his advisors have all of their names. I hope he's as good as saying "you're fired" in the WH as he is on TV.
But yanno, firing somebody doesn't really end their activities, so I think that some of them should probably be investigated for anti-American activities, and some of the State Department people should be made Ambassador to Antarctica or some such.
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Quote:Have you looked at Trump's cabinet? All the names are very familiar. You might not think these new Trump people are better than Obama's old people.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Fortunately, since this was all public, Trump and his advisors have all of their names. I hope he's as good as saying "you're fired" in the WH as he is on TV.
But yanno, firing somebody doesn't really end their activities, so I think that some of them should probably be investigated for anti-American activities, and some of the State Department people should be made Ambassador to Antarctica or some such.
www.politico.com/story/2016/11/who-is-in-president-trump-cabinet-23107
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Please, not the Horror-Clown!
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Serioiusly Second.
I'm going to masturbate to Fantasies of Britney Spears when She was 20 years old and Perfect.
Not because She was young and stupid back then, but because She was Young and Perfeckt back then and I would have done anything She asked. She should have been the first Madame President, no joke.
Men are particularly easy to manipulate. Especially White Males.
Every Woman in the RWED seems to want to deny that fact and/or work entirely against it, for better or for worse.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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What Ukraine’s corrupt oligarchy can teach us about a President Trump
http://qz.com/834722/trump-business-conflicts-of-interest-look-similar
-to-ukrainian-president-petro-poroshenko/
President-elect Donald Trump looks set to enter the White House with arguably the biggest array of conflicts of interest of any US president.
For just one example, take the case of Deutsche Bank. Trump’s lender of last resort has loaned him $364 million in mortgages in the past few years, according to The Intercept, plus $2.5 billion to his affiliated businesses and a further $1 billion in loan guarantees. And how are Deutsche’s current relations with Washington? Oh yeah, the government fined the bank $14 billion in September, according to the Wall Street Journal, to settle a series of investigations into the bank’s use of mortgage-backed securities during the financial crisis.
“There will be times when an action taken on behalf of the US can enrich Trump Enterprises, even as it hurts other American interests. What will he do?” It’s not just a matter of managing his old friends, but his assets themselves. Unlike most other senior officials, the president and vice president have no legal obligation to put their assets in a blind trust. Trump has promised to do so, but there’s a wee problem there: the blind trust, he says, will be run by his children. At the head is likely to be his daughter Ivanka, who, along with her husband Jared Kushner, was one of Trump’s lead advisers throughout the campaign. Can we really expect Trump and his favorite child to never discuss the business on which they have spent years working together? Is it really a “blind” trust if you can work out what’s going on just by hearing a loose word from your daughter? Norman Ornstein, a political scientist and senior fellow at the nonpartisan American Enterprise Institute think tank, isn’t convinced.
“The idea that Trump will place his business holdings in the hands of his children is to me just frightening,” Ornstein wrote in an email. “There will be times when an action taken on behalf of the US can enrich Trump Enterprises, even as it hurts other American interests. What will he do?”
We contacted the Trump campaign to ask, but they didn’t reply to an emailed request for comment as of publication.
For answers to how this might play out, there’s a recent global precedent in Ukraine. Oligarch Petro Poroshenko was elected president there in 2014 while similarly promising to hide his assets from his sight and sell his main business, Roshen Confectionary Corporation, as soon as he could. However, he is yet to sell off Roshen, and his blind trust is currently run by the corporation’s long-time CEO Vyacheslav Moskalevsky, says Anders Aslund, a leading Ukraine expert and senior fellow at the Atlantic Council think tank. “It’s a completely hopeless situation,” he says.
Russian president Vladimir Putin has been using the situation to manipulate the Ukrainian leader, Aslund claims. Aslund’s sources in Ukraine tell him the two have discussed Poroshenko’s businesses in private conversations: “Poroshenko is kept very much in line by the Kremlin,” he says. In October, Putin even tauntingly mentioned a factory Poroshenko owns in Russia, telling a conference that “there are some problems with the non-payment of VAT.”
“Poroshenko is kept very much in line by the Kremlin.” Poroshenko was elected on an anti-corruption platform that prided itself on hiring foreign experts to clean up the country, but this year his administration has seen embarrassing, high profile resignations by officials frustrated with corruption slowing down their attempts at reform. In February, Poroshenko’s Lithuanian-born technocratic economy minister resigned over the entrenched graft he was facing, health minister Alexander Kvitashvili stepped down in July, and the bombastic former president of Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili quit as governor of one of Ukraine’s most important regions in November. Announcing his resignation, Saakashvili pointedly asked his onetime friend Poroshenko, “How much can
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Director Neill Blomkamp showed off parodies of Trump’s plane and presidential motorcade
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Trump doesn't hate lobbyists all that much after all. That whole "Drain the Swamp" thing was just red meat for the rubes. The Associated Press reports that far from hating lobbyists, Trump absolutely adores them. Here's the Trump transition team:
http://bigstory.ap.org/7f2605f079334fddb0dfb341010b68ea
The behind-the-scenes transition operation is being run by Ron Nichol, a senior partner at The Boston Group, a management consulting firm where 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney launched his business career.
Ken Blackwell...senior fellow at the Family Research Council...
Veteran agribusiness lobbyist Michael Torrey...
Energy industry lobbyist Mike McKenna...
David Bernhardt...represents mining companies seeking to use resources on federal lands...
Lobbyist Steven Hart, who focuses on tax and employee benefits, is leading the transition team for the Labor Department.
Cindy Hayden...top lobbyist for Altria, the parent company of cigarette-maker Philip Morris...Homeland Security Department.
Jeff Eisenach, a consultant and former lobbyist...Federal Communications Commission....
Michael Korbey...former lobbyist who led President George W. Bush's effort to privatize America's retirement system....
Shirley Ybarra...champion of "public-private partnerships" to build toll roads and bridges....
Myron Ebell...man-made global warming is a hoax...
David Malpass...Bear Stearns' chief economist...
Dan DiMicco...former chief executive of steel company NUCOR and a board member at Duke Energy...
Former Rep. Mike Rogers...serves on boards for consulting firms IronNet Cybersecurity and Next Century Corp.
Kevin O'Connor...partner at the law firm of close Trump adviser Rudy Giuliani...
Jim Carafano...Heritage Foundation's vice president for Foreign and Defense Policy Studies...
retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg...chief operating officer for Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq...
Mira Ricardel...vice president of business development for Boeing Strategic Missile & Defense Systems.
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And the TRUTH shall set you FREE!
Trump - the man that built ISIS and is the only one that knows how to defeat them.
SGG
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Originally posted by second:
Islamist extremists welcome Trump's victory
by Kareem Shaheen Thursday 10 November 2016 15.45 EST
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/10/islamic-extremists-welcome-don
ald-trump-victory
Abdullah al-Muhaisny, a key authority among radical circles in Syria, says Trump presidency will sow division and expose west’s hatred of Muslims
Jihadis have welcomed Donald Trump’s surprise victory in the American presidential race, saying his election would sow greater division and expose what they described as the hatred and racism of the west towards Muslims.
The endorsement of the election result by extreme Islamist figures highlighted fears that Trump’s divisive rhetoric and call to ban Muslims from entering the US could empower radicals who have argued that the west seeks Islam’s destruction and is at war with its adherents.
The idea has been central to Islamic State propaganda – at its height the terror group called on Muslims to abandon life abroad and flock to the territories it controls or risk indignity and oppression in western societies.
“Trump’s victory is an important step towards the victory of the Sunnis,” said Abdullah al-Muhaisny, a key authority among radical circles in Syria, who is believed by the US to be in league with al-Qaida.
“We have long tried to explain that the fight is not against terrorism, but against the Sunnis, and the mujahideen are just the frontline,” he added in a series of tweets on Thursday. “The American strategy will not change much, what has changed is that the war is open and not secret, and that is a good thing.”
Muhaisny said Trump’s victory will lay the groundwork for “bloody battles and great chaos,” saying he hoped the president-elect’s strategy of “exclusion and crushing opponents” will sow greater division in America.
Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi, a key intellectual figure in al-Qaida who once shared a cell with Isis founder Abu Mus’ab al-Zarqawi, said he hoped Trump’s election would herald America’s ruin.
“Trump reveals the real mentality of the Americans and their racism towards Muslims and Arabs and everything,” he said in a tweet. “He only reveals what his predecessors have kept hidden.”
Rita Katz, the director of Site Intelligence, an organisation that tracks jihadi chatter on social media and online forums, said militants were predicting that Trump’s election would unite the ranks of jihadis and expose latent hatred towards Muslims.
Katz tweeted: “Pro-#ISIS & #Jihadis say they “prefer” #Trump to #Clinton because he is “telling Muslims what half of America thinks of them.”
Hamza Caribi, who runs a Twitter account affiliated with Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, the former al-Qaida wing in Syria, said Trump proved the failure of democracy. “From this day forward we will no longer need videos explaining the west’s plots,” he said. “We will only need to retweet what Trump says.”
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Really!? I wouldn't throw around a word like "LOCKSTEP" too loosely, too much like GOOSESTEP. Speaking of Anti-American, is it really "draining the swamp" or is it recruiting a better version of muck-masters.
Careful, your rotting corpse-ified flesh-eating husk of the "republican" party is showing.
SGG
TUCK FRUMP!
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
NOW THAT TRUMP IS PRESIDENT
the immediate threat of neo-CON run government, spy agencies and military working in lockstep is gone. Not for good, because the threat won't be gone until the neo-CONS are purged, but there won't be a critical mass of them brought together in the near future.
NOW is the time for progressives and democratic socialists, environmentalists and freedom-lovers, to come together and leave the rotting husk of the 'democratic' party behind.
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SGG: You are no longer addressing anything real, if you ever did. I suspect that - like SIX - you're posting drunk, and addressing your own demons more than anything else. My VERY FIRST REPLY to you was ...
Quote:
SHINY, whatever point you're trying to make is muddled by your attempt at humor/sarcasm. You'll have to try again.
and it hasn't changed since. When you start talking about reality, I'll be happy to have a discussion with you.
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Spotted at the protests in Los Angeles
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefly/comments/5cp7en/spotted_at_the_protes
ts_in_los_angeles_today/
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President Trump and the Trump Organization are the biggest conflict of interest in US history. Trump is mixing business and government in a way that will allow for massive corruption.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13608960/donald-trump-confl
icts-of-interest-corruption
Trump’s financial disclosures won’t reveal anything
The one thing Trump, like his predecessors in the White House, is required by law to do is disclose his assets on an annual basis. The idea here is that if Obama were to buy a bunch of Google stock and then make a bunch of regulatory decisions that favor Google, the public would at least know about it. Sunshine, many people feel, is the best disinfectant.
This does not at all work in Trump’s case, as you will swiftly see if you read the financial disclosure forms he filed during the campaign.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/TrumpFinancialDisclos
ure20150722.pdf
A huge share of it simply consists of listing the names of LLCs and other partnerships that Trump wholly or partially owns, paired with an addendum clarifying what share of the LLC is Trump’s and estimating its value. Now, presumably DT Dubai II Golf Manager LLC is the name of an entity that owns the Trump-branded golf course in Dubai, while DT Marks Qatar LLC is an ownership vehicle for some kind of name-licensing deal in Qatar.
But names are just names. If Trump wants to establish a holding company that buys construction companies that are about to get infrastructure contracts from the American government, he can call it whatever he wants. Ivanka and Eric can have DT Marks Qatar LLC buy or sell stock in whatever companies they like, tell Dad about it, and have him make policy accordingly, and all Trump’s financial disclosure forms will ever report is that he owns a company called DT Marks Qatar LLC. Any way you look at it, the Trump Organization will be fully informed of the business ramifications of public policy and the Trump White House fully informed of the state of the Trump organization’s business holdings.
The public will be left entirely in the dark. So every policy move Trump makes can be used to enrich himself and his family personally with no legal obligation for anyone outside the family to know about it.
Only congressional Republicans can stop this
The current setup in which Trump owns a series of opaque holding companies operationally controlled by heirs who are also close political advisers is a looming corruption disaster. It allows Trump and his family to use their influence over the policy process to enrich themselves to an essentially unlimited degree with no public disclosure whatsoever.
Republican Party elected officials did not indicate much discomfort over this situation during the 2016 campaign, even while at times expressing varying levels of concern about Trump’s racist remarks and boasts about sexual assault.
But ultimately in America’s system of checks and balances, the responsibility for preventing the fleecing of America lies with Congress. And while the GOP is set to hold a 52-48 majority in the Senate come January, that doesn’t have to be construed as a personal mandate for Trump to fleece the country. Susan Collins, John McCain, Lindsay Graham, Ben Sasse, Rob Portman, Jeff Flake, Lisa Murkowski, Cory Gardner, and Dan Sullivan all ended the campaign saying that one or another of Trump’s indiscretions made them unable to vote for him. Pat Toomey, Mike Lee, and Dean Heller were profoundly ambiguous down to the end.
Marco Rubio, who did vote for Trump, also warned at one point that he is a “con artist” and declined to withdraw the accusation even while endorsing the GOP nominee. Ted Cruz, who also came around to voting for Trump, called him both “utterly amoral” and a “pathological liar.”
However these various senators ended up coming down on the 2016 election, the point is that they all expressed considerable doubts about the idea that Trump should simply be allowed to wield unchecked power. And indeed, whatever it is that Trump’s own
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Just OOC, do you call yourself "SECOND" because your opinions are second-hand? Or because they're second-rate? = SIGNY
Huh? That's not even a little funny or even a bit creative - disappointing. Come on Hillary, you can do better! =GSTRING
Since when did personal attacks require creativity or even accuracy? I mean, hell, you and THUGR don't take any prizes for either one! And it's not like you didn't try enough times!
Can dish it out, can't take it. What a crybaby.
Huh? I always thought it meant SECOND to none.
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Russia trolls get contract extension
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"SECOND TO NONE" in what category? Self-delusion? Lying? Posting fact-free cartoons? Posting other people's opinions without being able to discuss them?
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Quote:Nobody wants to discuss your opinions because they don't want to join your religion. You're a Jehovah's Witness handing out magazines at the door of a supermarket. To stop and show any interest with the Witness is to have your ears talked off.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"SECOND TO NONE" in what category? Self-delusion? Lying? Posting fact-free cartoons? Posting other people's opinions without being able to discuss them?
You're a relentlessly opinionated writer giving away your product to whoever will stop and take a magazine. Don’t you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice, your repetition of the same ideas, in same tone, in every comment of yours? Don't you ever notice that you never convert anyone to your beliefs?
None of Trump’s glory reflexes light upon you. You’re not even a remora attached to the fat belly of that Great White Republican Shark, eating scrapes leftover from his kills. Should Trump notice you, he will eat you, too. Figurative, not literally.
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Donald Trump Parody Results in Clockwork Orange Copyright Suit
A YouTube parody which hoped to provide a satirical take on Donald Trump's presidential campaign has ended in a lawsuit. Hugh Atkin portrayed elements of Trump's efforts in the style of and alongside images from A Clockwork Orange. Now the Australian is getting sued in the United States for copyright infringement.
Three weeks ago, Australian Hugh Atkin received a notification from YouTube, advising that a video he’d created had received a copyright strike.
At the time, Atkin told TorrentFreak that the video, titled ‘A Clockwork Trump vs. A Trumpwork Orange’, was intended as a parody.
“The video contains a parody of the trailer for ‘A Clockwork Orange’ featuring Donald Trump and compares it, side-by-side, with the original trailer for ‘A Clockwork Orange’,” he told TF.
“It was meant to be a satirical take on the alternately funny/violent/scary/profane/authoritarian nature of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.”
https://torrentfreak.com/donald-trump-parody-results-in-clockwork-oran
ge-copyright-suit-161114/
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As you so succinctly noted about yourself, Nobody wants to discuss your opinions, not even you. You're a relentlessly opinionated writer who wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the ass. Don’t you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice, your repetition of the same drivel, in same tone, in every comment of yours? Don't you ever notice that you never convert anyone to your beliefs?
OK!
Now that we're done slagging each other - do you have any relevant responses to Signy's post - that contain logic and facts? Can you discuss ANYTHING with ANYONE like a rational adult?
Or is this the one and only real you? (My god what it must be like to be stuck inside your head with you.)
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Quote:Vice President-elect Mike Pence is going to court to shield a single email from public scrutiny.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
My god what it must be like to be stuck inside Pence's head!
Maybe keeping emails private isn't so bad after all? Pence’s office declined to comment.
Pence is seeking to keep secret the contents of an email relating to Indiana’s participation in a lawsuit to block Obama’s executive actions on immigration, an Indianapolis Star article revealed Monday, What's Mike Pence hiding in his emails?
www.indystar.com/story/news/2016/11/14/whats-mike-pence-hiding-his-ema
ils/92839560/
Pence’s administration brought in an outside law firm to join the litigation, which was spearheaded by Texas Gov. Greg Abbot. The move prompted one Indianapolis lawyer to request documents related to the decision to bring in outside counsel.
Per the article: “Pence produced the documents in the request ‘but those documents included substantial redaction,’ according to court documents. The 57-page response also included an email that Daniel Hodge, Abbott's chief of staff, sent to 30 recipients in various states asking them to join the lawsuit against Obama. The message included an attached white paper, but the governor failed to produce the document, according to court records. After a yearlong legal process, the Superior Court held that the issue was not a matter for the courts to decide, citing an Indiana Supreme Court case decided just days before.”
The decision was appealed, and the Indiana Court of Appeals is set to hear oral arguments in Indianapolis on Nov. 21.
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Bank stocks extended their surge toward eight-year highs as analysts expect Donald Trump’s victory and the Republican sweep of Congress to provide a “goldilocks” scenario for the sector. It must be good for the average Trump voter to make banking more profitable, is it not? Money will trickle down from the rentier class to the middle class, closing the gap in wealth and income, right? That is the Standard Republican Talking Point, is it not? You will be hearing it repeated often by the GOP for the next 8 years, so it must be true.
www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-win-and-republican-sweep-a-goldilocks-
scenario-for-bank-stocks-2016-11-14
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Quote:YOU don't want to discuss your own opinions because YOU have religion. In fact, you don't seem even CAPABLE of discussing your own opinion, and you- in particular- seem stuck in "personal attack" mode, as you have just demonstrated again ... in this third thread, in two short days.
Nobody wants to discuss your opinions because they don't want to join your religion.= GSTRING
Quote:The person with "beliefs" is YOU, son. And the reason why I know that you have "beliefs" is because you're incapable of subjecting them to examination, which is why you can't even discuss them.
You're a relentlessly opinionated writer ... Don't you ever notice that you never convert anyone to your beliefs? = GSTRING
Quote:Do you think I'm doing this for "glory"? Related to Trump?
None of Trump’s glory reflexes light upon you.= GSTRING
Wow, I can't imagine the mind that produced such an absurdity. I don't even LIKE Trump .... I was voting on only three issues, and for the remainder of Trump's proposals I'm probably in the opposite camp.
I think the thing that chaps your ass is that YOU WERE WRONG. Your precious beliefs, formed and maintained by constantly referring to "sources" that agree with you, have led to painfully faulty expectations.
And, I'm going to point out that ONCE AGAIN you have nothing to say ON THE TOPIC. If you stopped posting personal attacks, you would have NOTHING TO POST AT ALL. Basically, you drag your butt-hurt feelings into every thread and take them out on me.
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Quote:Your soul is too sensitive for the real world. Take a mental health break and return next year, after the Inauguration. By then we will know for certain if John Bolton is in the Trump administration.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you stopped posting personal attacks, you would have NOTHING TO POST AT ALL. Basically, you drag your butt-hurt feelings into every thread and take them out on me.
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The dark comedy that will all too soon officially become the Trump administration is still in previews, but already we're learning that the cosmic joke is on every American who believed whatever the man we must call “president-elect” said:
Trump May Name Iraq War Propagandist John Bolton As Top US Diplomat
www.nationalmemo.com/trump-name-iraq-war-propagandist-bolton-top-us-di
plomat/
No need to be concerned because Bolton has not been appointed. Yet. It is only a credible rumor. There is plenty of time for an anti-Bolton, the opposite of Bolton, to be discovered somewhere in the GOP to be Trump's choice. Although why wouldn't Trump go with a winner with a familiar brandname?
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Quote:I don't like assholes and bullies, SECOND. What about you?
Your soul is too sensitive for the real world.
Quote:The various appointments, and whether they're seen as "successes" or "failures" based on Trump's own campaign promises, belong, I suppose, in the "Succeed" or "fail" threads.
The dark comedy that will all too soon officially become the Trump administration is still in previews, but already we're learning that the cosmic joke is on every American who believed whatever the man we must call “president-elect” said /... Trump may appoint Bolton
In retrospect, the two threads should have been combined because some actions could credibly be discussed as both "success" AND "fail". What do you think: Should I combine them now, before they each take a life of their own?
As always, I'm of the "goose sauce = gander sauce" opinion. I was just as quick to judge Obama by his appointments as I was to judge GWB by his, and so I'll be looking with great interest to see who Trump appoints. I can tell you that many Trump supporters are already disappointed with the appointment of Priebus as Chief of Staff, instead of Bannon who was an early Breibart supporter and who was chosen as chief strategist, but not knowing anything about either of these people I have no opinion on how that might reflect with MY three priorities.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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Quote:Sticks and stones will break your bones, but words will never hurt you, Signym. Either relearn that childhood lesson or take a mental health break from posting until after the Inauguration of Your "Three Priorities".
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I don't like assholes and bullies, SECOND. What about you?
Your soul is too sensitive for the real world.
Quote:Would it be too much work for you, Signym, to know a thing about these people? Just a rhetorical question, although you could probably know more about them than Trump did before he chose them. Trump delegates the mental work to others; he's more a salesman.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I can tell you that many Trump supporters are already disappointed with the appointment of Priebus as Chief of Staff, instead of Bannon who was an early Breibart supporter and who was chosen as chief strategist, but not knowing anything about either of these people I have no opinion on how that might reflect with MY three priorities.
Bannon is not a simple "early Breitbart supporter". Bannon from March 2012 to August 2016 was executive chairman of Breitbart News LLC, the parent company of Breitbart. Under his leadership, Breitbart took a more alt-right and nationalistic approach towards its agenda.
The Anti-Defamation League decries Stephen Bannon as anti-semitic, while Newt Gingrich says Steve Bannon can't be anti-semitic since he worked in Finance And Hollywood. Such a difficult decision on who to believe.
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To count as a Blind Trust, the Congressional Research Service says, Trump would need to transfer “control and management of private assets to an independent trustee who may not communicate information about the identity of the holdings in the trust” to him. In other words, let someone he doesn't know sell all his old assets and buy new ones for him without telling him what they are. Having his kids manage his properties fails both of these tests, especially when they're a part of his transition team.
I just got a note that Trump further undermines fake "blind trust" by seeking top secret clearance for his kids.
For the past 40 years, every president who has had anything other than the most vanilla of investment portfolios — Barack Obama, who had most of his money in Treasury bonds, fell into that category — has put their assets into a blind trust to prevent any kind of conflict of interest between what's good for the country and what's good for their retirement.
http://congressionalresearch.com/RS21656/document.php
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Yanno what, Second?
I'm going to worry about Trump when he stops posting on Twitter.
Of course he didn't release his 1,200 page Tax Document to the public. Unlike any other president before him, he was a Billionaire who ran an insanely large business that likely takes an entire team of legal lawyers to keep up with on a daily basis.
He couldn't exactly go to H&R block and get a free tax return over the internet like you and I could.
I don't have the speech here, but he said this in more than one of his campaigns...
"I pay a lot of taxes. So much many more than most people. Every single thing my business does is taxed. The energy it takes to run my companies is taxed. I pay half of the obligation of every one of my tens of thousands of employees' share of SSI and Medicaid taxes. I pay my share of workman's comp insurance. I pay to ensure that OSHA and EPA regulations are met exceedingly. I pay sales taxes on any materials I buy to build things. I pay VAT taxes (when I'm working overseas at companies with a VAT tax)."
These aren't exact phrases he said, all, but many of them are word for word. I'm paraphrasing others because I know quite a bit about tax laws because my mind works that way even if I never got a college degree.
AGAIN.... I'm not saying that Trump is Jesus.
If he Fucks us, we have every right to call him out on fucking us.
I just don't see why he would.
He's done making money. It's boring to him.
Even if he does bad as a President, I'm sure he set all of his existing kids and grand kids and wives with enough to more than get by.
Outside of that, I believe that he is willing to roll the dice on the rest. He wants to be remembered. And unlike some disgruntled kid in HS who dons a trenchcoat with his friends and shoots everyone up before suicide by cop, I believe that Donald Trump just wants to be put in the books as somebody that the People Loved.
He wants to be one of those "Good Presidents" that people remember. Maybe not as great as George Washington or Abraham Lincoln, but he really is like Sally Field in waiting....... "You Like Me! You REALLY Like Me!!!!!"
Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel that at this point in Trump's life, money means very little to him.
He's still EXTREMELY VIBRANT for a man his age, but he sees the writing on the wall. Given his "Privilege" and the Privilege he passes to his children, he has NOTHING to gain by doing this.
Read a fucking book....
Even if anybody Old Rich were to take him semi-seriously, he's still West Egg.....
I'm done talking about this because I believe that those in the RWED that are trenched in the "Left" understand what I'm talking about when it comes to Trump.
They want to argue, but they can't because He embodies so many things They have always wanted, even though their insides are being ripped apart if they actually flip and believe it.
I'm not celebrating early and saying "I told you so, fuckers". I'm just saying that we need to all take a few breaths and see what happens next.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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He's done making money. It's boring to him.[\quote]
You're right, he is bored, but not about making gobs of cash. He's in it to prove he's just as good as his father, and to snub his nose at the "fuckers" who scoff him like: Buffet and Bloomberg, those "real" billionaires.
So what if he breaks a few laws and presidential protocol along the way.
SGG
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So what if he breaks a few laws
Which laws?
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Bolton may be the only one left after Trump's son-in-law purged the "administration" of Christie's hand-picked cronies. Then we have a comedy of errors as they have totally ignored contacting a handful of Federal agencies for which posts must be appointed.
So far, so good.
I think our local "experts" will have to put a hold on the "I told you so's"
SGG
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Actually, upon researching the subject, it's more a conflict of interest that the president and vice-president are exempt, constitutionally speaking.
SGG
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So what if he breaks a few laws
Which laws?
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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I was wondering about the legality of what Trump is trying to do, and, in another response, I spoke too soon. The president and vice-president are constitutionally exempt from conflicts of interest, still though it's tradition to create a blind trust so as not to have the appearance of any impropriety; using the government to obtain advantages in power and wealth.
Apparently, Trump's assets pose a far greater conflict of interest than that of the Clinton foundation.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13608960/donald-trum
p-conflicts-of-interest-corruption
"Trump is mixing business and government in a way that will allow for massive corruption."
(It's complicated)
Donald Trump ran for president promising to “drain the swamp” of corruption and self-dealing that he argued had taken root in Washington, DC. But not only has he immediately moved to pack his transition team with lobbyists and millionaires, his personal financial situation also poses a series of massive conflicts of interest and lays the groundwork for financial self-dealing on an essentially unprecedented level.
What’s more, Trump’s past behavior gives us a clue as to how he might take advantage of this opportunity. Federal Election Commission disclosures reveal that Trump’s campaign spent enormous quantities of its donors’ money on his businesses. Trump’s charitable foundation appears to have routinely spent money for Trump’s personal benefit in violation of the rules.
(This is going to be fun)
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
To count as a Blind Trust, the Congressional Research Service says, Trump would need to transfer “control and management of private assets to an independent trustee who may not communicate information about the identity of the holdings in the trust” to him. In other words, let someone he doesn't know sell all his old assets and buy new ones for him without telling him what they are. Having his kids manage his properties fails both of these tests, especially when they're a part of his transition team.
I just got a note that Trump further undermines fake "blind trust" by seeking top secret clearance for his kids.
For the past 40 years, every president who has had anything other than the most vanilla of investment portfolios — Barack Obama, who had most of his money in Treasury bonds, fell into that category — has put their assets into a blind trust to prevent any kind of conflict of interest between what's good for the country and what's good for their retirement.
http://congressionalresearch.com/RS21656/document.php
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You're right, he is bored, but not about making gobs of cash. He's in it to prove he's just as good as his father, and to snub his nose at the "fuckers" who scoff him like: Buffet and Bloomberg, those "real" billionaires.
So what if he breaks a few laws and presidential protocol along the way.
And if he is guilty of ONLY that, how is he any different than any other person who ever held the office, EVER..... at least in our lifetimes?
Bloomberg did have his back, FYI, and Buffet still drives an awesome car from the 80s and lives in a small house, BTW.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Thanks to Trump, the economy turned around in one week. One Week!
This kind of comically large impact is why you can’t take people at their word when they explain to you how they voted.
Trump’s message was that the economy was terrible, and Trump voters agreed with his message, but after he won, it is much better. In One Week!
If Trump starts saying in March that the economy is now fixed, Republicans will believe him.
Just 16% of Republicans said the economy was getting better in the week before the election, while 81% said it was getting worse. Since the election, 49% say it is getting better and 44% worse.
www.gallup.com/poll/197474/economic-confidence-surges-election.aspx
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Trump billed the federal government $6 million for granting Secret Service agents the right to fly on his plane. The reason we know that is because it was a political campaign, so all the financial details were filed with the Federal Election Commission.
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-business-campaign-trail-22
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With the campaign over, however, the plane just becomes part of Trump’s web of companies and the money he is funneling from the federal government into his pocket won’t be disclosed. What’s your level of confidence that he’ll decide not continue to do it? Trump is not taking his Presidential salary of $400,000. He will make that and more in tickets he sells to the Secret Service. The Trump children will continue flying the old Trump plane when they travel for business or pleasure. Each child has Secret Service protection.
Security travel costs for the Secret Service are not subject to disclosure.
So Trump personally pocketed $6 million in taxpayer cash in plain sight in the middle of a hotly contested presidential campaign. And not only did he win the election, he won the election by painting his opponent as corrupt. Now he will have the opportunity to rake in an unknown sum of additional money through the exact same route with no disclosure whatsoever.
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I didn't notice, except when things where EXCEPTIONAL for some. Honestly, I just remember how Trump being voted in was 800 points down for the DOW and they actually shut down overnight trading. I wonder how many times they ever did that in history?
I own a house free and clear. My 125 per month with Property Taxes and Insurace doesn't care.
I made a literal TON off the market with good choices when times were good and not dependent on External Forces.
I'm glad I wasn't in the business now. Could you imagine being the "Gal" who instructed all of Her people to pull completely out on Nov 9th, after the 800pt DOW loss on the 9th?
Fuck you DOW. I'm "Housing" and living virtually Free. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Bill Gross made billions. He says about Trump:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I made a literal TON off the market with good choices when times were good and not dependent on External Forces.
Fuck you DOW.
"The Trumpian Fox has entered the Populist Henhouse, not so much by stealth but as a result of Middle America's misinterpretation of what will make America great again."
While Gross proclaimed global populism “on the march” and the “wave of the future,” he squelched the idea that Trump’s impending tenure in the White House is a win for the populist agenda. He scoffed at the notion that Trump’s policies will be positive for job growth and said instead they will be “damaging” to the prospects of both jobless and low-wage American workers.
Far from making America “great again,” Gross said, “his policies of greater defense and infrastructure spending combined with lower corporate taxes to invigorate the private sector continue to favor capital versus labor, markets versus wages, and is a continuation of the status quo.”
“Not having voted for either establishment party’s candidate, I write in amazed, almost amused bewilderment at what American voters have done to themselves,” said Gross.
Gross explained that the tax reform Republicans have promised is based on the idea that American corporations are taxed at 35%, the highest corporate rate in the world. In actuality, he said, the average tax rate for the S&P 500’s 50 largest corporations is 24%—which makes them among the world’s most lightly taxed. Cutting taxes only benefits corporate profits at the expense of the workers companies employ, he said.
He also suggested that a tax holiday for US corporations —-- the repatriation of foreign profits with little tax penalty -—- would not encourage companies to ramp up investment in the American economy. “The last time such a ‘pardon’ was put into law in 2004, no noticeable pickup in investment took place,” he said. “Of the $362 billion that earned a ‘tax holiday’, most went to dividends, corporate bonuses, and stock buybacks.”
“Both the Clinton Democrats and almost all Republicans represent the corporate status quo that favors markets versus wages; Wall Street versus Main Street.”
Instead, Gross favors solutions such as a “Keynsian/FDR job corps or a Kennedyesque AmeriCorps” that would put Americans to work, while soothing populist sentiments at the same time.
“Global populism is the wave of the future, but it has taken a wrong turn in America,” said Gross.
www.janus.com/insights/bill-gross-investment-outlook
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You can’t watch this at work; and you can’t watch it if easily offended.
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Japanese Donald Trump Commercial
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Oh, thanks for letting me know. I was wondering.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Actually, upon researching the subject, it's more a conflict of interest that the president and vice-president are exempt, constitutionally speaking.
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
So what if he breaks a few laws
Which laws?
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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There are 75 lawsuits against Trump. An astounding number of court battles—from Trump University suits to libel cases—will accompany Trump even as he moves into the White House.
Trump has been a party to some 4,000 lawsuits over the last 30 years—a uniquely large number of actions framed by detractors as a telling indicator of a life of crooked dealing, and by supporters as simply the cost of running an enormously successful business in America.
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/10/75-lawsuits-against-presiden
t-elect-trump.html
www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/trump-lawsuits/
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Since the election, 49% say it is getting better and 44% worse.
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That's because a "republican" won, but if it were to tank...Then, of course, it's Obama's fault. That's how that works.
An overreaction if ever I saw one.
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That was FUN and so on point.
SGG
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Quote:The non-reaction is odd to Trump's bending and breaking promises. A list from MarketWatch:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Since the election, 49% say it is getting better and 44% worse.
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That's because a "republican" won, but if it were to tank...Then, of course, it's Obama's fault. That's how that works.
An overreaction if ever I saw one.
SGG
No, it seems he’s not going to cancel Obamacare on Day One.
He’s not going to build a wall along the entire Mexican border.
No, he’s not going to deport all the illegal immigrants.
He’s not going to stick it to Wall Street “elites” and big investment banks like Goldman Sachs. On the contrary, they’re already making out like bandits.
No, he’s not going to stick it to the Republican establishment either. He just made RNC boss Reince Priebus his chief of staff.
We can pretty much forget any pledge to wall off his financial interests. (Memo to fellow journalists: If Trump knows what is in his blind trust, it is not a blind trust)
And we can write-off Trump’s promise to release his tax returns when the “audit” is complete.
Oh, but it looks like privatizing Medicare might be on the table after all. Oops! Sorry seniors.
www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trumps-next-default-lies-dead-ahead-2
016-11-16
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Four years ago, Rick Perry said in a debate that he wanted to eliminate three agencies of government, but he could only remember two. The third agency was the Department of Energy. Now he's being considered to lead that agency. Who says irony is dead?
www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-team-makes-overtures-to-democrats-as-trans
ition-push-ramps-up-1479343438
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:YOU don't want to discuss your own opinions because YOU have religion. In fact, you don't seem even CAPABLE of discussing your own opinion, and you- in particular- seem stuck in "personal attack" mode, as you have just demonstrated again ... in this third thread, in two short days.
Nobody wants to discuss your opinions because they don't want to join your religion.= GSTRING
Misattributed quote again. Second said that not G. Conclusion: proof that meaningful discussion not possible. Ideas, thoughts, facts do not connect.Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:The person with "beliefs" is YOU, son. And the reason why I know that you have "beliefs" is because you're incapable of subjecting them to examination, which is why you can't even discuss them.
You're a relentlessly opinionated writer ... Don't you ever notice that you never convert anyone to your beliefs? = GSTRING
Misattributed quote again. Second said that not G. Conclusion: proof that meaningful discussion not possible. Ideas, thoughts, facts do not connect.Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Do you think I'm doing this for "glory"? Related to Trump?
None of Trump’s glory reflexes light upon you.= GSTRING
Misattributed quote again. Second said that not G. Conclusion: proof that meaningful discussion not possible. Ideas, thoughts, facts do not connect.Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, I can't imagine the mind that produced such an absurdity. I don't even LIKE Trump .... I was voting on only three issues, and for the remainder of Trump's proposals I'm probably in the opposite camp.
I think the thing that chaps your ass is that YOU WERE WRONG. Your precious beliefs, formed and maintained by constantly referring to "sources" that agree with you, have led to painfully faulty expectations.
Incorrect conclusion. What chaps my ass are idiots who believed what Trump said and voted for him. You don't know me or my sources, so more lying, er, faulty presumption on your part.Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And, I'm going to point out that ONCE AGAIN you have nothing to say ON THE TOPIC. If you stopped posting personal attacks, you would have NOTHING TO POST AT ALL. Basically, you drag your butt-hurt feelings into every thread and take them out on me.
Thread topic misattributed. The thread topic is Trump, about whom I have said plenty.
Hey G. As you know, SIG's and 1kikis' postings' here resemble the fake news postings Facebook and Google are now looking for ways to stop. We and others here have been the keepers of the gate. Thread after thread we have exposed their bullshit by posting some facts and exposing them as trolls. It doesn't matter that they live in a world of their own. That they don't realize, anyone who follows the threads know they and their news sources are dishonest. It's just a part of their disease. It's also why trolls are depicted as ugly and antisocial.
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The Senate will have to take a stand
Thus far, Trump has hired two people. One, Reince Priebus, is well-liked by Republicans but not really qualified to be chief of staff. The other, Steve Bannon, ran a website that trafficked in racism and anti-Semitism and before that was involved with a sleazy nasal spray business.
For his Cabinet and his independent regulatory agencies, Trump should be held to a higher standard than that. Obama’s top-tier Cabinet posts included a secretary of state who ran against him in the primary, a secretary of defense who was a lifelong Republican, and a Treasury secretary who was a largely apolitical technocrat. Attempting to hold Trump to that bar of independence and integrity may sound like a fool’s errand. But it’s of course precisely because Trump does not seem like the kind of high-minded individual who would value independence and integrity in public officials that the Senate must insist on it.
Even with an absolutely first-rate group of Senate-confirmable executive branch appointees, the practical problems with having elected a president with no knowledge of or interest in public policy will be considerable.
But if he’s allowed to stack the Cabinet with yes-men, cronies, and sycophants, then the danger becomes severe.
The main thing that names currently floating around as potential Cabinet picks — Steven Mnuchin, Newt Gingrich, John Bolton, Sarah Palin, Rudy Giuliani — have in common is that they backed Trump. We cannot allow personal loyalty to Donald Trump to be the decisive factor in staffing the executive branch. Personnel is policy, and if fealty to Trump determines the personnel, then fealty to Trump will also be the policy.
I don’t want to live in a world where personal loyalty to Donald Trump is the sine qua non of every policy decision. And my guess is that, if they think about it, neither do Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz or Lisa Murkowski or any number of other Republicans from outside the Trumposphere who will be inevitably ground down if he is able to make his will prevail.
Above all, senators from both parties who know in their hearts that we are living through a dangerous moment need to avoid falling prey to wishful thinking. Because Trump is a vengeful and irrational man, picking a fight with him over an SEC commissioner or an assistant attorney general feels unpleasant, and many would simply rather duck the issue. But that vengeful and irrational nature is precisely why the fights must be picked and must be picked now.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/17/13626514/trump-systemic-cor
ruption
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey G. As you know, SIG's and 1kikis' postings' here resemble the fake news postings Facebook and Google are now looking for ways to stop. We and others here have been the keepers of the gate. Thread after thread we have exposed their bullshit by posting some facts and exposing them as trolls. It doesn't matter that they live in a world of their own. That they don't realize, anyone who follows the threads know they and their news sources are dishonest. It's just a part of their disease. It's also why trolls are depicted as ugly and antisocial.
They must be off celebrating Trump's victory with newt stew and a side of monkey brains.
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Quote:Trump can serve himself better in the White House than in retirement. He will not retire early.
Originally posted by G:
I wonder how long he'll put up the act of trying to be a president? Not very long if people keep making demands of him, and not being grateful or showing him any respect. Imagine a president that hates the people he's serving - ding ding!
Getting Uday and Qussay top clearance? Can you IMAGINE if Obama's children were older and he tried to get them clearance??? Can you see Mitch McConnell's head explode? Can you hear talk radio blow up?
Many American administrations have featured acts of venal corruption, from the self-serving, and Trump’s will likely feature more than most. The larger risk, however, is that Trump’s lack of grounding in ideological principles or party networks will create a systemically corrupt government. Such governments operate by limiting access to markets and resources in order to create rents that bind the interests of the ruling coalition together.
This is how Vladimir Putin governs Russia, and how the Mubarak and Sisi regimes rule Egypt. To be a successful businessman in a systemically corrupt regime and to be a close supporter of the regime are one and the same thing.
Those who support the regime will receive favorable treatment from Trump's regulators and those who oppose it will not. Because businesses do business with each other, the network becomes self-reinforcing. Regime-friendly banks receive a light regulatory touch while their rivals are crushed. In exchange, they offer friendly lending terms to regime-friendly businesses while choking capital to rivals. Such a system, once in place, is extremely difficult to dislodge precisely because, unlike a fascist or communist regime, it is glued together by no ideology beyond basic human greed, insecurity, and love of family.
It is entirely possible that eight years from now we’ll be looking at an entrenched kleptocracy preparing to install a chosen successor whose only real mission is to preserve the web of parasitical oligarchy that has replaced the federal government as we know it. One can, of course, always hope that the worst does not come to pass. While the impulse to “wait and see” what really happens is understandable, the cold hard reality is that the most crucial decisions will be the early ones.
If the President wishes to pursue vendettas, the regulatory state would be the most direct and simplest way for him to do so. The usual presumption of ‘innocent until proven guilty’ does not hold in many regulatory matters, nor are there always the usual protections of due process.
And Trump is certainly a vengeful man. As he wrote in his 2007 book, Think Big And Kick Ass, “When someone intentionally harms you or your reputation, how do you react? I strike back, doing the same thing to them only ten times worse.”
Trump is not going to crush the free media in one fell swoop. But big corporate media does face enough regulatory matters that even a single exemplary case would suffice to induce large-scale self-censorship. AT&T, for example, is currently seeking permission from anti-trust authorities to buy Time Warner — permission that Time Warner executives might plausible fear is contingent on Trump believing that CNN has covered him “fairly.” A Federal Trade Commission investigation charging Amazon with predatory pricing would be viewed favorably by many competing retailers, but would also be seen in other quarters as Trump making good on his promise to punish Jeff Bezos for critical coverage in the Washington Post.
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Like a lot of things posted by 'g', thugger and second, absolutely fictitious.
I thought this was supposed to be REAL. WORLD. EVENTS.
And somehow, in an entire universe of slow pitches just begging you to hit even one out of REAL. WORLD. EVENTS. you all strike out.
And second, I gotta say. 'g' and thuggr are just plain trolls and not worth old spit on a sidewalk. You OTOH seem bent in the brain. You couldn't admit hitlery had even one fault that she might possibly work on in order to strengthen her campaign and, not coincidentally, her chances of winning. And you're so obsessed with flinging poo at Trump you can't even figure out what's a real thing you should be aiming at.
It's a lack of mental skills that's put you in the position you're in today.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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So, second. hitlery lost.
Shake out your shoulders. Take a deep breath.
Bernie is trying to create a coalition of progressives to counter Trump. Are you going to still obsess over Trump even though it did absolutely NO GOOD the last time around? Are you still going to write Bernie off because he's stooped? Or are you going to join up with Bernie as the most logical place at the moment to DO SOMETHING about what Trump represents?
Your choice. Fruitless obsession? Or active participation?
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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How is he different? I'll tell you....................
Because he's going to bring about Goose-stepping "Brownshirts" (and not the good kind) to do his dirty work for him and run this country into the ground.
Plus, he's a full-blown scumbag...........that's how different.
SGG
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You're right, he is bored, but not about making gobs of cash. He's in it to prove he's just as good as his father, and to snub his nose at the "fuckers" who scoff him like: Buffet and Bloomberg, those "real" billionaires.
So what if he breaks a few laws and presidential protocol along the way.
And if he is guilty of ONLY that, how is he any different than any other person who ever held the office, EVER..... at least in our lifetimes?
Bloomberg did have his back, FYI, and Buffet still drives an awesome car from the 80s and lives in a small house, BTW.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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