TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Quote:This is stupid beyond belief. ALL large capitalists are scuzzy. Bill Gates. George Soros. Jamie Dimon. LLoyd Blankfein. Dick Fuld (Lehman). John Stumpf (Well Fargo, latest criminality). Steve Jobs. Angelo Mozilo (Countrywide). Mark Carney. Warren Buffet. The Seven Dwarves (tobacco company CEOs). There are thousands .... hundreds of thousands... of scuzzy capitalist types, and the higher up you go in the food chain the scuzzier they get.
Trump was always a scuzzy version of the capitalist type.
Trump, by comparison, is a boyscout. And what he says hasn't changed much... he thinks America is being ripped off.
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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BILL CLINTON: SOCIOPATH
Bill is probably worse than Hillary. Bill had a history, if you recall, of getting state troopers and his security detail to pick out women and bring them to him, where he would force himself on them through a combination of intimidation, surprise, and glamor, then pay for their silence with government jobs. The number of troopers, reporters and investigators who could have testified against Clinton and who died of "unnatural causes" in the 1992-1994 timeframe is truly astounding. Here, you don't have to believe the story, just count the names...
To this day, Bill shares quite a bit of time with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, having taken a dozen flights WITHOUT his security detail on the "Lolita Express".
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“Bill Clinton … associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile. Why would a former president associate with a man like that?” said Conchita Sarnoff of the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, Fox reported. Ms. Sarnoff also authored a book on Mr. Epstein titled “TrafficKing.”
Mr. Epstein was arrested in 2005 and signed a plea agreement in 2007 with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, accepting a single charge of soliciting prostitution. He agreed to a 30-month sentence, registered as a “Tier 1” sex offender with the U.S. Virgin Islands and paid dozens of young girls under a federal statute providing for compensation to victims of child sexual abuse.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/bill-clinton-ditched-s
ecret-service-on-multiple-lo/
HILLARY'S RESPONSE TO ALL THIS
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Hillary Clinton Is Not a Feminist
Since Hillary announced that her husband would be joining her on the campaign trail, people have been debating whether or not it’s fair for the GOP to attack Bill’s sexual misdeeds in order to indirectly attack her.
This makes sense. After all, we’re talking about a guy who has been accused of the sexual assault of more than ten women. Think about it: How is her appointing him really any different than if she’d appointed Bill Cosby?
But here’s the thing: The real issue isn’t whether or not to attack Bill to indirectly attack Hillary — it’s about directly attacking Hillary for how she herself treated the women involved.
Hillary Clinton claims to be pro-women, yet has actively worked to ruin lives of so many of them. She’s running on a “feminist platform” — she’s even dared to say that sexual-assault survivors have a “right to be believed” — despite the fact that what she did to the women who accused Bill went far beyond not believing them.
She attacked them.
When allegations of sexual misconduct emerged during Bill’s 1992 presidential run, she’s reported to have said “Who is going to find out? These women are trash. Nobody’s going to believe them.” Multiple people also report that she called the women “sluts” and “whores” — you know, for daring to be raped. A private investigator named Ivan Duda claims that, after Bill lost his second governor’s race, Hillary told him: “I want you to get rid of all these b****** he’s seeing . . . I want you to give me the names and addresses and phone numbers, and we can get them under control.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429138/hillary-clinton-feminist-
bill-clinton-sexual-assault
And it's not like these suspicious activities stopped in 1995. The DNC staffer, Seth Rich, who was widely speculated to have been the source of 20,000 DNC emails sent to Wikileaks (i.e not Russia) was gunned down in an apparent "attempted robbery" ... although nothing was taken.
The investigation of Clinton's private email server, in which staff and Hillary herself demonstrated a concerted effort, with forethought and intent, to wipe and erase data (even after a subpoena was issued), was thoroughly compromised by Bill's "conversation" with DOJ Loretta Lync
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Win or lose, you won't escape from Trumpism.
So now you're agreeing with me that it's NOT about Trump, specifically. Ok. You can stop posting about TRUMP'S deals, and TRUMP'S business, and TRUMP'S tax returns, and TRUMP'S ... hands.
It's time to move the focus off of Donald Trump the candidate, and on to creating a relevant opposing narrative.
What can CLINTON do to improve her standing and make her positions relevant to more Americans? How can she help defeat TrumpISM across the country?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Part of me is still shocked that this man is a presidential candidate - really? But then I see this phenomenon world wide - the growth of populist extremism - a whole raft of disconnected views often xenophobic in nature dressed up as 'Common man' rhetoric. Where have we seen this before in history? In some ways I do truly blame he Internet for enabling them this world wide misinformation campaign to be spread and anborb d so widely. What can you do? Gut reactions take precedence over fact, exposure over morality. I'll wait to see what happens but I don't have confidence that this clown won't end up as president and then what?
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Quote:There are no combinations of words spoken by Hillary, or any single politician, that will defeat Trumpism. She is on the ballot for one office only. The hundred thousand other offices held by little Trumps will have to be argued and won by a hundred thousand Democrats who are not Hillary. Trumpism is what the majority of Americans want and that is what they have been voting for in the past. Big Trump might lose, but only because he is the most obnoxious character of the 21st century GOP. He is worse than Ted Cruz, who is a really obnoxious Texan receiving 25% of the vote to Trump's 45%.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Win or lose, you won't escape from Trumpism.
So now you're agreeing with me that it's NOT about Trump, specifically. Ok. You can stop posting about TRUMP'S deals, and TRUMP'S business, and TRUMP'S tax returns, and TRUMP'S ... hands.
It's time to move the focus off of Donald Trump the candidate, and on to creating a relevant opposing narrative.
What can CLINTON do to improve her standing and make her positions relevant to more Americans? How can she help defeat TrumpISM across the country?
There is no magical incantation that Bernie, or a Presidential candidate, or even a President, can chant to change Americans and what they want. Nixon, for example, was not beaten because JFK was a smooth-talker making his "positions relevant to more Americans" or JFK "created a relevant opposing narrative". Nixon lost by few votes because he looked creepy on TV. The vote was 49.72% to 49.55%. Nixon learned his lesson, used TV actor makeup, and won two elections.
Americans really wanted the awful Nixon and they got him. Americans really want the awful Trump, but they might not vote for him because, personally, he looks like such a creep. In the next election, the GOP will find someone who looks less creepy and he will win. I think it is impossible that the Democrats would win the White House four elections in a row. I think Hillary will be a one-term President no matter what she does or says. On average, Americans like the GOP. The Democrats only have a chance because Republicans are failures at running the government. If the GOP ever got remotely competent, it would never lose an election, as is the case in Texas.
Here is a story about Trump's special creepiness that might defeat him:
Art of the Steal
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/03/art-of-the-steal-this-is-how
-trump-lost-916m-and-avoided-tax.html
Trump’s casino business in Atlantic City was a spectacular catastrophe by the early 1990s. This is likely the ultimate source of most of the $915 billion loss declared on his 1995 return.
Meanwhile, Trump had taken out loans worth $3 billion that he would never be able to repay. Fortunately for Trump, he was able to force his bankers to bail him out by forgiving almost $1 billion of the $3 billion.
Forgiven loans are legally taxable income. In this case, Trump’s nearly $1 billion in losses should have canceled out the nearly $1 billion in forgiven loans — leaving him no losses to cancel out future income and thereby avoid taxes.
However, Congress created a special loophole in the mid-’90s that let real estate developers exchange the tax liability on forgiven debt for reduced tax depreciation allowances on their property in the future. That would mean that Trump could keep his losses for use later, at the cost of increasing his tax bill in the future (since his casinos would have to pay higher taxes due to their reduced depreciation exemptions).
But in 1995, Trump created a company called Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts, and sold stock in it. And Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts became the legal owner of his casinos, not Trump himself. So Trump kept the upside (i.e., the losses he could use to cancel out future income and avoid taxes) while transferring the downside (the more heavily-taxed casino property) to the company’s shareholders.
Trump shows no sign that he believes the
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Originally posted by MAGONSDAUGHTER:
Part of me is still shocked that this man is a presidential candidate - really? But then I see this phenomenon world wide - the growth of populist extremism - a whole raft of disconnected views often xenophobic in nature dressed up as 'Common man' rhetoric. Where have we seen this before in history? In some ways I do truly blame he Internet for enabling them this world wide misinformation campaign to be spread and anborb d [?] so widely. What can you do? Gut reactions take precedence over fact, exposure over morality. I'll wait to see what happens but I don't have confidence that this clown won't end up as president and then what?
And then we won't have a death-wish neocon in office.
I wonder, MAGONS, what part of the internet, exactly, do you think is "misinformation"? Is it the part where Bill Clinton is a serial rapist, or the part where Hillary is a woman-hating neocon-in-drag who referred to Sanders supporters as "basement dwellers" and "baristas"? Or is it the part where Trump is a self-aggrandizing know-nothing who represents all of the worst that our capitalist class can offer?
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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It's funny to listen to the Republicans who are suckered onto Trump's asshole like remoras try to explain that his gaming of the system is "genius" (both Christie and Giuliani used that word), but that any so-called "welfare queen" would be despicable for gaming the system in a similar fashion.
There is literally no amount of his shit they won't swallow, and the GOP and the worthless teabaggers are all queueing up to get their shitbuckets filled.
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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
It's funny to listen to the Republicans who are suckered onto Trump's asshole like remoras try to explain that his gaming of the system is "genius" (both Christie and Giuliani used that word), but that any so-called "welfare queen" would be despicable for gaming the system in a similar fashion.
There is literally no amount of his shit they won't swallow, and the GOP and the worthless teabaggers are all queueing up to get their shitbuckets filled.
He lost a billion dollars in one year, some genius. It's the kind of spin we hear from 1kiki and SIG all day every day here. Bait and switch.
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There are no combinations of words spoken by Hillary, or any single politician, that will defeat Trumpism.
JFK did democrats a solid for decades to come in under two years.
FDR cast an even longer shadow. He really did re-write the contract between citizens and their government, and gave us a new deal, or, as he put it, a New Deal.
Creating a new paradigm isn't impossible, just very difficult. You have to have a vision that speaks to people's issues. You have to have a plan to carry out your vision. And you have to publicly put yourself on the line for it, so people know you're walking your talk.
What do you think HRC should do to galvanize people?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Corporate welfare is only outdone by corporate greed. It's amazing how "they" swallow it hook, line and sinker.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely! But don't forget kiddies - on top of that, he wants to cut the estate tax, etc. Mo' money, mo' money!!
Remember we're all just folk!
SGG
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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
It's funny to listen to the Republicans who are suckered onto Trump's asshole like remoras try to explain that his gaming of the system is "genius" (both Christie and Giuliani used that word), but that any so-called "welfare queen" would be despicable for gaming the system in a similar fashion.
There is literally no amount of his shit they won't swallow, and the GOP and the worthless teabaggers are all queueing up to get their shitbuckets filled.
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