TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Quote:51 Senators is enough to pass a bill. 60 is enough to pass without the possibility of a filibuster. Republicans hold 54 Senate seats at this moment.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:60 Senators? Really? Where did you get THAT number? Minds based in reality want to know!
What will President Trump do with a majority in the House and 60 Senators?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate
But wait, 1kiki! there is more! On November 21, 2013, the Senate used the so-called "nuclear option," voting 52-48, to eliminate the use of the filibuster on executive branch nominees and judicial nominees other than to the Supreme Court.
1kiki, did you notice that it only took 52 Senators in this real example to partially abolish the filibuster rules? It actually only takes 51 Republican Senators to pass the "nuclear option" abolishing the filibuster completely. There would be nothing the Democrats could do to stop President Trump and his 51% Republican majority in Congress from passing whatever they please.
www.nytimes.com/2013/11/22/us/politics/reid-sets-in-motion-steps-to-li
mit-use-of-filibuster.html
Obviously, if Hillary is President then the Republican majority will NOT abolish the filibuster because the filibuster is the perfect Republican tool to sabotage the USA.
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“I was 35 years old when Bill Clinton, Ark. Attorney General raped me and Hillary tried to silence me."
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This is one of the reasons you have no credibility and come off looking like a nut. There are thousands more posts in these threads by you that also reinforce you being nuts. I love it.-THUGR
I know that you and KPO and G are very "source driven"; you tend to disbelieve sources that you're not familiar with and believe sources that are comfortable and accustomed.
I grant that you don't know what McClatchy is, and that you may not have the habit of understanding the turf before posting a response, but McClatchy is one of the most well-sourced, insider-baseball, wonkish, respected, Washington-politics news sources available. The opposite of Alex Jones. They would not publish this item if they couldn't stand behind it. Just look around the website, aside from this article, and you'll see what I mean. In YOUR book, this source should be golden. And so should the information.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Quote:If this is such a great option, why didn't the Democrats do this when they had the opportunity and were actually talking about it under Harry Reid? It could have saved the Obama administration years of being stonewalled by Congress.
But wait, 1kiki! there is more! On November 21, 2013, the Senate used the so-called "nuclear option," voting 52-48, to eliminate the use of the filibuster on executive branch nominees and judicial nominees other than to the Supreme Court.
1kiki, did you notice that it only took 52 Senators in this real example to partially abolish the filibuster rules? It actually only takes 51 Republican Senators to pass the "nuclear option" abolishing the filibuster completely. There would be nothing the Democrats could do to stop President Trump and his 51% Republican majority in Congress from passing whatever they please.
Could it be that it's not the great tactic that you say it is? Or is it just that Democrats have become bought-and-paid-for wimps who have lost the story of what the Dem Party used to stand for, and all THEY stand for, now, is staying in office and drumming up money for their election campaigns?
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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BTW that whole Supreme Court thing was with the agreement of the Dems, and it ONLY applies to SC nominees, and is specifically based on the text in the Constitution about SC nominees.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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So you're NOW retracting your claim of 60 senators, second?
I have been saying - for months now - that IF we could count on the Democrats in the Senate, Trump in the WH would be no problem.
But, Trump's not going to win. And there aren't going to be 60 republicans in the Senate.
On top of that, OTHER presidents have swayed the entire nation to a new way of thinking. It's completely possible.
So. What's your excuse NOW for not discussing Hillary and her severe shortcomings that gave away so much support to Trump ?
Here's the question - again -
what can Hillary say to overcome TrumpISM in the US?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
“I was 35 years old when Bill Clinton, Ark. Attorney General raped me and Hillary tried to silence me."Quote:
This is one of the reasons you have no credibility and come off looking like a nut. There are thousands more posts in these threads by you that also reinforce you being nuts. I love it.-THUGR
I know that you and KPO and G are very "source driven"; you tend to disbelieve sources that you're not familiar with and believe sources that are comfortable and accustomed.
I grant that you don't know what McClatchy is, and that you may not have the habit of understanding the turf before posting a response
Your ignorance astounds me. I said nothing about your source in this instance. Yet you assume I am not familiar with it and further assume I am challenging it. In fact it is the charges I challenge. The woman first reported the incident twenty years after it supposedly occurred. Add to that the fact that she admittedly continued to work on and support his campaign.
Your malice against the Clintons goes far beyond reason and again brings front and center your lack of good and moral judgement.
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Oh good! Let's drag Bill Clinton through the mud, again! 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegatio
ns
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/23/will-today-s-women-be
lieve-bill-clinton-s-rape-accusers.html
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Quote:No. If there are 51 Republican Senators AND 51 Senators agree to use the "nuclear option" then Democrats won't be able to filibuster President Trump's huge tax cuts for the wealthy and savage cuts in aid to the poor.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
So you're NOW retracting your claim of 60 senators, second?
The Republican Senators have NOT YET used the "nuclear option" because the President is a Democrat. The Democrats used the "nuclear option" in 2013 only because Obama was President AND there were 52 Democratic Senators.
When Trump is President, if 50 Senators do NOT agree to the "nuclear option" then Republicans need 60 Senators to overcome the Democrats' filibuster of President Trump's huge tax cuts for the wealthy and savage cuts in aid to the poor.
Quote:I’ve got a story: my neighbor said he would never vote for Hillary The Murderer. “Who did she murder?” I asked. “Those guys at Benghazi!” replied the neighbor.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I have been saying - for months now - that IF we could count on the Democrats in the Senate, Trump in the WH would be no problem,
But, Trump's not going to win. And there aren't going to be 60 republicans in the Senate.
On top of that, OTHER presidents have swayed the entire nation to a new way of thinking. It's completely possible.
So. What's your excuse NOW for not discussing Hillary and her severe shortcomings that gave away so much support to Trump?
Here's the question - again -
what can Hillary say to overcome TrumpISM in the US?
How does Hillary overcome that kind of crazy talk? How does she motivate my neighbor to not take up his rifle and kill her in the next 4 years? Not Hillary, not anyone who was President, can overcome this hatred. I checked the report on Benghazi. To my complete surprise, Hillary is not a murderer!
https://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/
documents/Part%20V.pdf
I think there is nothing Hillary can do now or the next four years to change the minds of anyone who votes Republican or votes for a third or fourth party candidate because they heard that Hillary was a murderer. I have a vague recollection that 1kiki (I could be wrong) called Hillary a murderer, but not in connection to Benghazi.
There is a long article explaining that Trump’s weirdness and unpopularity isn’t the only force shaping this race. The article ends with this paragraph:
Quote:www.vox.com/2016/9/15/12919800/clinton-trump-polls-tighter
But the fact remains that her basic problem in this race is almost painfully simple. Over the course of her winning primary campaign she became a deeply unpopular figure. {That means she’s a murderer or an accessory to murder or she is plotting a future murder} And it’s hard — indeed, unprecedented — for such an unpopular person {she’s a murderer} to win the presidency.
Another neighbor sent me this video. What can Hillary say to overcome nasty propaganda videos? Nothing. It is like asking what Lincoln could do to improve his image. The Confederates hated him before he was elected. They hated him during the war, as did almost a majority of Yankees. The Confederates hated him after he was dead and none of his speeches or skill running the government or Lincoln's graciousness after victory changed the minds of anyone while he was alive. Being assassinated was a really smart P.R. move by Lincoln to improve his image.
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I admit - when your entire history as Senator has been as a do-nothing, Iraq War cheering, 'free' trade agreement supporter and apologist; when your entire term as Secretary of Sate has been devoted to getting into bed with jihadists and Nazis to destabilize and break country after country after country - AND you put US security at risk using your unsecured private server for classified information at the same time; when you refuse to address US nuclear first-strike policy and antagonize and provoke the only other major nuclear power on the globe; when you refuse to release the content of the speeches you made to mega-corporations and for which you earned tens of millions of dollars in under 2 years - with two million from major banks alone; when you collude with the supposedly neutral DNC to shoehorn yourself into the candidacy - it's a tough row to hoe!
And maybe people are a bit misdirected about where the smell is coming from, but for sure they know something stinks.
So, what do YOU think Hillary has done wrong? What does she need to say mea culpa for? What does she need to promise not to do again? How can she show she's learned some lessons? What policies does she need to disavow or adopt to prove she's going to walk her talk as a candidate for the average person?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh good! Let's drag Bill Clinton through the mud, again!
Sure
•Longest economic expansion in American history
The President's strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.
•More than 22 million new jobs
More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.
•Highest homeownership in American history
A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.
•Lowest unemployment in 30 years
Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.
•Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.
•Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.
•Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
President Clinton and Vice President Gore's new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.
•Lowest crime rate in 26 years
Because of President Clinton's comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.
•100,000 more police for our streets
As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.
•Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.
•Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.
•Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.
•Higher incomes at all levels
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