TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Quote:I hope Hillary's Tim Kaine is a better V.P. choice than Lincoln's Andrew Johnson. That being said, the smart move by Hillary is to be murdered shortly after the inauguration. That's Hillary's only possible way to please 1kiki. And think of all the sympathy Bill will get for outliving Hillary.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I admit - when your entire history as Senator has been as a do-nothing, Iraq War cheering, 'free' trade agreement supporter and apologist; when your entire term as Secretary of Sate has been devoted to getting into bed with jihadists and Nazis to destabilize and break country after country after country - AND you put US security at risk using your unsecured private server for classified information at the same time; when you refuse to address US nuclear first-strike policy and antagonize and provoke the only other major nuclear power on the globe; when you refuse to release the content of the speeches you made to mega-corporations and for which you earned tens of millions of dollars in under 2 years - with two million from major banks alone; when you collude with the supposedly neutral DNC to shoehorn yourself into the candidacy - it's a tough row to hoe!
And maybe people are a bit misdirected about where the smell is coming from, but for sure they know something stinks.
So, what do YOU think Hillary has done wrong? What does she need to say mea culpa for? What does she need to promise not to do again? How can she show she's learned some lessons? What policies does she need to disavow or adopt to prove she's going to walk her talk as a candidate for the average person?
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Originally posted by THGRRI:Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
It's funny to listen to the Republicans who are suckered onto Drumpf's asshole like remoras try to explain that his gaming of the system is "genius" (both Christie and Giuliani used that word), but that any so-called "welfare queen" would be despicable for gaming the system in a similar fashion.
There is literally no amount of his shit they won't swallow, and the GOP and the worthless teabaggers are all queueing up to get their shitbuckets filled.
He lost a billion dollars in one year, some genius. It's the kind of spin we hear from 1kiki and SIG all day every day here. Bait and switch.
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He lost a fucking billion dollars in one year RUNNING CASINOS! He literally went bankrupt in the only business where they coined the phrase "The house always wins!"
And he pays less in federal income taxes than your average undocumented immigrant.
Just sit back and let that sink in.
And that's your fucking "genius."
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Tax guru David Cay Johnston says he thinks he knows what Donald Trump's $916 million operating loss in 1995 was all about. The story starts when Trump's casino empire crashed in the early 90s, producing multiple business bankruptcies. And because Trump had personally guaranteed about a billion dollars in loans, it nearly produced a personal bankruptcy too. Here's Johnston's theory of what happened next:
1) Trump threatened to tie his bankers in legal knots for years unless they forgave the loans that had been largely responsible for his operating losses in the first place. Eventually, he badgered them into agreeing.
2) But a forgiven loan is income, so this produced a billion dollars in taxable income for Trump that would have offset his $916 million in operating losses. What to do?
3) In 1995, Congress passed a law that allowed real estate professionals to trade the taxes on forgiven debt for future real-estate tax deductions.
4) This gave someone at Trump HQ a bright idea: why not use this trade to dump all the tax obligations onto Trump's casino properties? Normally would just be trading one tax obligation for another, so to get around that they advised Trump to take all his casino holdings and put them into a shiny new public company.
5) Here's the genius part. By trading away the taxes on his forgiven debt, Trump kept his $916 million operating loss. It was the new public company that got saddled with property that owed a lot more in taxes than it normally would.
6) Thousands of people invested in the company, and lost everything when Trump drove it into the ground. But as CEO, Trump paid himself $82 million along the way.
Isn't that great? Trump got $916 million in tax free income over the next decade. He shoveled a bunch of problem properties into a public company. He paid himself $82 million to run the company. And everyone who bought the stock took a bath.
In the end, there was one big winner: Trump. And three big losers: Trump's bankers, the American taxpayers, and all the investors in Trump's crappy public company.
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/03/art-of-the-steal-this-is-how
-trump-lost-916m-and-avoided-tax.html
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Good lord, THUGR, you've got your tongue stuck pretty far up Clinton's ass!
Bill Clinton-
Repealed Glass Steagall, which is what made a 2008 banking collapse possible.
Signed the Commodities Futures Trading Act, which made all of those funny Credit Default Swaps possible, which made the financial crisis possible.
Gutted state regulation of banks.
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CJR concludes, “The bottom line is: Bill Clinton was responsible for more damaging financial deregulation—and thus, for the [2008] financial crisis—than any other president.”
Signed the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, which eliminated fair use of digital content.
Signed the Defense of Marriage Act (= one man, one woman)
Signed NAFTA - we heard all about that.
Eliminated "Welfare as we know it", which threw hundreds of thousands of families into poverty.
Destroyed Yugoslavia.
Created minimum mandatory sentencing and expanded the War on Drugs. Thanks Bill.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/15-ways-bill-clintons-white-hous
e-failed-america-and-world
Bill Clinton did ONE GOOD THING: he raised the minimum wage. The rest was just happy happenstance during his admin, since the Fed kept rates low and there was a Tech Boom.
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Quote:I know how to please 1kiki, Signym and myself in five steps:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Bill Clinton-
Repealed Glass Steagall, which is what made a 2008 banking collapse possible.
Signed the Commodities Futures Trading Act, which made all of those funny Credit Default Swaps possible, which made the financial crisis possible.
Gutted state regulation of banks.
Eliminated "Welfare as we know it", which threw hundreds of thousands of families into poverty.
Destroyed Yugoslavia.
Created minimum mandatory sentencing and expanded the War on Drugs. Thanks Bill.
1) Hillary is elected, which pleases me.
2) President Hillary is assassinated by Trump’s minions, which pleases 1kiki. I don't care that Hillary has paid the ultimate price for her sins. Trump will become a TV show host.
3) The grieving widower Bill throws himself (or is thrown) on Hillary’s funeral pyre, which pleases Signym. I saw Daenerys Targaryen do it in Game of Thrones and always wanted to see suttee on the National Mall in Washington DC.
4) Veep Tim Kaine becomes President, which pleases me.
5) 1kiki and Signym begin a campaign against President Tim Kaine. I don’t comment on Kaine’s characteristics because I don’t care.
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Originally posted by second:
I hope Hillary's Tim Kaine is a better V.P. choice than Lincoln's Andrew Johnson. That being said, the smart move by Hillary is to be murdered shortly after the inauguration. That's Hillary's only possible way to please 1kiki. And think of all the sympathy Bill will get for outliving Hillary.
I just had to quote this because - in a move that did not surprise me in the least - you strawmanned, yet again.
May I remind you second that a strawman argument is in the pantheon of DISHONEST ARGUMENTS, and it's your go-to response, aside from trolling and outright lies?
So, let me strawman and snark YOU. Because YOU apparently can't find a single thing that Hillary's done that you disapprove, or would like to see changed, you're just like the idiot republicans who support Trump.
You've turned your brain off and handed over your thinking. As is clear for everyone to see.
BTW, your argument style very much reminds me of rappy.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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sgg
Here's the scorecard from the first four pages of this thread -
My first post - no insult
kiki Monday, May 23, 2016 3:58 PM
I just wanted to point out an error
My second post - no insult
kiki Monday, May 23, 2016 4:50 PM
second So Obama's actions to help working people? They'd aspire to being merely trivial.
I get trolled here
Another sign of 1kiki and SIG trying to control the content of a thread.
no insults from me here either
kiki Monday, May 23, 2016 7:42 PM
"Congress follows the 1% because ...
or here
kiki Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:30 AM
here
kiki Sunday, May 29, 2016 1:36 AM
but I DO get trolled HERE, maybe you recognize the name of the poster
SHINYGOODGUY Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:01 AM
You've got to be the stupidest motherfucker on the face of the planet, and below as well.
to which I reply Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:17 AM
Hunh? You're incoherent.
no insults from me here
Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:57 AM
or here
Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:23 AM
here
Monday, May 30, 2016 2:18 AM
but you troll me again
Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:16 AM
Perhaps you wish to enlighten me, Oh Factual One. Both you and Sig know so much, and me, I'm but a mere mortal, a peon, with a pea of a brain failing to understand the intricacies of the world around me.
I bow down at the enormity of your wisdom and kneel before you ever at the ready to
attempt to learn at your feet. I bow and scrape..............teach me!
and the VERY NEXT POST troll me and signy
Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:18 AM
Those Oxford dudes are really good. Of course, none compare to the brilliance of 2 of our own scholars - kiki & Sig.
then you revive an earlier post of mine where I ask about Hillary's factual history regarding Iraq, Libya, Syria and Ukraine with MORE trolling from you, sgg where you imply that YOU ONLY TROLL BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN TREATED SO VERY BADLY
Friday, June 3, 2016 3:54 AM Anyway, I'm not here for your entertainment. I post what I please, you just have to deal with that fact. Whenever I'm of the mind, I post
articles that catch my eye and comment on them (or at least I used to), I got slammed a number of times for posting my take on things, then I answer in kind and I get slammed for it.
I didn't say anything negative here
Saturday, June 4, 2016 1:49 PM
or here
Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:35 PM
But I DID get strawmanned here, which is second's stock in trade - dishonesty
Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:00 PM You should inform Warren of her horrible mistake when the morally superior Trump ought to be getting Warren's endorsement
and I REPLIED with this:
Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:09 PM since YOU are too dumb to understand your own hypocrisy, let me spell it out
and here's a little interlude between signy and thuggr
thuggr
and viciously attacking Hillary Clinton about global a organization that attempts to help impoverished countries
signy
First of all, what organization is that? Because without that information, you look like the corner soapbox orator, shouting into the wind and pointing at the sky.
thuggr
You’re such an ASS.
let's see
second posts made-up stuff about Trump
Monday, June 13, 2016 6:23 PM
I reply Monday, June 13, 2016 6:43 PM That would be far more apropos if he actually said any of that. Did he?
And second replies with - guess what! MORE dishonesty - except this is in the form of an outright lie
Monday, June 13, 2016 6:50 PM Yes, Trump did.
and when I challenge second, with, yanno, FACTS and LINKS
Monday, June 13, 2016 8:19 PM
second replies with t
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I can tell sgg - you're completely fine with snark, with trolling, with lies and insults. And YOUR completely dishonest criticisms are just more of the same shitty trolling from the shitty Hillary people who - really do! - represent their candidate VERY well - even emulate her. Yes, even to the bone deep dishonesty and hypocrisy and hate-filled little mind she has.
Ya know, I was going to say that I was in rare form in those few short weeks. I was going to say that sometimes people just get into a shitty mood
in response to some rather shitty comments, posts and responses.....but I've moved on in that short time. I'm no longer in that place, nor am I that same person. I took responsibility for my words and offered up the olive branch and was rebuffed. I have to say, I'm good with it. Say what you will, because I am not who you say I am.
Peace be with you.
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
sgg
Here's the scorecard from the first four pages of this thread -
My first post - no insult
kiki Monday, May 23, 2016 3:58 PM
I just wanted to point out an error
My second post - no insult
kiki Monday, May 23, 2016 4:50 PM
second So Obama's actions to help working people? They'd aspire to being merely trivial.
I get trolled here
Another sign of 1kiki and SIG trying to control the content of a thread.
no insults from me here either
kiki Monday, May 23, 2016 7:42 PM
"Congress follows the 1% because ...
or here
kiki Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:30 AM
here
kiki Sunday, May 29, 2016 1:36 AM
but I DO get trolled HERE, maybe you recognize the name of the poster
SHINYGOODGUY Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:01 AM
You've got to be the stupidest motherfucker on the face of the planet, and below as well.
to which I reply Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:17 AM
Hunh? You're incoherent.
no insults from me here
Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:57 AM
or here
Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:23 AM
here
Monday, May 30, 2016 2:18 AM
but you troll me again
Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:16 AM
Perhaps you wish to enlighten me, Oh Factual One. Both you and Sig know so much, and me, I'm but a mere mortal, a peon, with a pea of a brain failing to understand the intricacies of the world around me.
I bow down at the enormity of your wisdom and kneel before you ever at the ready to
attempt to learn at your feet. I bow and scrape..............teach me!
and the VERY NEXT POST troll me and signy
Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:18 AM
Those Oxford dudes are really good. Of course, none compare to the brilliance of 2 of our own scholars - kiki & Sig.
then you revive an earlier post of mine where I ask about Hillary's factual history regarding Iraq, Libya, Syria and Ukraine with MORE trolling from you, sgg where you imply that YOU ONLY TROLL BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN TREATED SO VERY BADLY
Friday, June 3, 2016 3:54 AM Anyway, I'm not here for your entertainment. I post what I please, you just have to deal with that fact. Whenever I'm of the mind, I post
articles that catch my eye and comment on them (or at least I used to), I got slammed a number of times for posting my take on things, then I answer in kind and I get slammed for it.
I didn't say anything negative here
Saturday, June 4, 2016 1:49 PM
or here
Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:35 PM
But I DID get strawmanned here, which is second's stock in trade - dishonesty
Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:00 PM You should inform Warren of her horrible mistake when the morally superior Trump ought to be getting Warren's endorsement
and I REPLIED with this:
Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:09 PM since YOU are too dumb to understand your own hypocrisy, let me spell it out
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Quote:Are you going to be angry for years if Hillary is elected President without her apologizing for everything she has done to you?
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
. . . YOUR completely dishonest criticisms are just more of the same shitty trolling from the shitty Hillary people who - really do! - represent their candidate VERY well - even emulate her. Yes, even to the bone deep dishonesty and hypocrisy and hate-filled little mind she has.
I suppose that 1kiki thinks 1kiki follows the “ethic of responsibility”. I know what I think: 1kiki follows the “ethic of conviction”.
I saw an article explaining that: “A tale of two ethics” at
www.economist.com/news/europe/21707959-why-many-germans-think-impracti
cal-idealism-immoral-tale-two-ethics
Why many Germans think impractical idealism is immoral
Oct 1st 2016
The phrases “ethic of conviction” and “ethic of responsibility” mean little to most English-speakers. In Germany the equivalent terms—Gesinnungsethik and Verantwortungsethik—are household words. Pundits drop them casually during television talk shows. Hosts use them as conversation-starters at dinner parties. The concepts draw on the opposition between idealism and pragmatism that runs through politics everywhere. But they also capture a specific moral tension that is “very German”, says Manfred Güllner, a sociologist and pollster. Anyone interested in understanding German politics, on anything from the euro to refugees, would do well to get a handle on them.
The terms come from the sociologist Max Weber, who used them in a speech he gave in January 1919 to a group of leftist students at a Munich bookstore. Germany had just lost the first world war. The Kaiser had abdicated, the country was in the throes of revolution and Munich was about to become the capital of a short-lived “Bavarian Soviet Republic”. Armed with only eight index cards, Weber gave a talk that would become a classic of political science. (“Politics as a Vocation” was published in English only after the second world war. http://anthropos-lab.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Weber-Politics-
as-a-Vocation.pdf ) The lecture ranged broadly through history, but its main purpose was to curb the Utopian romanticism then gripping the ideologues fighting over the direction of the new Germany, including those sitting in front of him.
Weber described an “abysmal opposition” between two types of ethics. Those following their convictions wish to preserve their own moral purity, no matter what consequences their policies may have in the real world. “If an action of good intent leads to bad results, then, in the actor’s eyes, not he but the world, or the stupidity of other men, or God’s will who made them thus, is responsible for the evil.” By contrast, someone guided by responsibility “takes account of precisely the average deficiencies of people…(H)e does not even have the right to presuppose their goodness and perfection.” This sort of politician will answer for all the consequences of his actions, even unintended ones. Weber left no doubt about his sympathies. Ethicists of conviction, he said, were “in nine out of ten cases windbags”.
The prevailing view today, like Weber’s in 1919, is that “Germany has a surfeit of Gesinnungsethik,” says Wolfgang Nowak, who served as an adviser to Gerhard Schröder when he was chancellor. The postwar yearning of Germans to atone for their nation’s Nazi past through extravagant moral posing exacerbates the tendency. In general, the ethic of conviction is most prevalent among leftists and Protestants, and slightly less so among conservatives and Catholics, says Mr Güllner.
Thus the Social Democrats, who view themselves as crusaders for social justice, often give the impression that they are not only “unable but unwilling” to govern, lest they bear actual responsibility, Mr Güllner thinks. That may explain why there has been a Social Democratic chancellor for only 20 years since 1949, compared with 47 years under the Christian Democrats. Many of Germany’s most striden
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The GOP attacks the Constitution.
On Monday, the Republican Party revealed that its new smear campaign against Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine will double as something else: an all-out assault on the United States Constitution.
The ad constitutes a straightforward, unapologetic attack on the Sixth Amendment. With it, the Republican Party can never again claim in good faith to be the party of defending the Constitution.
The Sixth Amendment Assistance of Counsel Clause: “In all criminal prosecutions the accused shall enjoy the right … to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.” It is a principle of American jurisprudence that it predates the Constitution. John Adams famously defended the British soldiers accused of committing the Boston Massacre, arguing that even the most reviled defendants deserved a strong defense.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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