TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, tell me about what's OUT THERE REGARDING HILLARY. What makes her so good? (And avoid references to Donald, or your statement will cease to be about Hillary.)
Say, what was the title and topic of this thread again?
If you can't handle conversation about Trump, stay out of the Trump thread. There is a Hillary thread, ya know.
*smh*
Both of you - mashed potatoes from the forehead on back.
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People who are supposedly Hillary supporters avoid the Hillary thread for some peculiar (cough cough fully-propagandized idiots cough cough) reason.
Which is why I post here, where they (you) can't claim they (you) didn't read it.
Besides, Trump is toast. Deader than a doornail. Circling the drain. And you're beating a dead horse.
But, go ahead and endlessly obsess over him if you want. I prefer to focus on something more relevant.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
People who are supposedly Hillary supporters avoid the Hillary thread for some peculiar (cough cough fully-propagandized idiots cough cough) reason.
Which is why I post here, where they (you) can't claim they (you) didn't read it.
Besides, Trump is toast. Deader than a doornail. Circling the drain. And you're beating a dead horse.
But, go ahead and endlessly obsess over him if you want. I prefer to focus on something more relevant.
I agree 1kiki. So why don't you concentrate on your elections in Russia. I hear they were rigged.
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Quote:I do NOT agree with you. Trump has a chance of being elected. After the Republican convention his chances were 50%, a coin toss away from being President. One terror attack on Monday, Nov 7th and Trump will be back at 50% or more. Check it at http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I've been saying for close to two months the Trump will not be elected.
So I'm glad you finally agree with me.
In other news, Trump is a cheat:
I sold Trump $100,000 worth of pianos. Then he stiffed me.
My relationship with Trump began in 1989, when he asked me to supply several grand and upright pianos to his then-new Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City. I’d been running a music store for more than 30 years at that point, selling instruments to local schools and residents. My business was very much a family affair (my grandsons still run the store). And I had a great relationship with my customers — no one had ever failed to pay.
I was thrilled to get a $100,000 contract from Trump. It was one of the biggest sales I’d ever made. I was supposed to deliver and tune the pianos; the Trump corporation would pay me within 90 days. I asked my lawyer if I should ask for payment upfront, and he laughed. “It’s Donald Trump!” he told me. “He’s got lots of money.”
But when I requested payment, the Trump corporation hemmed and hawed. Its executives avoided my calls and crafted excuses. After a couple of months, I got a letter telling me that the casino was short on funds. They would pay 70 percent of what they owed me. There was no negotiating. I didn’t know what to do — I couldn’t afford to sue the Trump corporation, and I needed money to pay my piano suppliers. So I took the $70,000.
Losing $30,000 was a big hit to me and my family. The profit from Trump was meant to be a big part of my salary for the year. So I made much less. There was no money to help grow my business. I had fewer pianos in the showroom and a smaller advertising budget. Because of Trump, my store stagnated for a couple of years. It made me feel really bad, like I’d been taken advantage of. I was embarrassed.
www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/28/i-sold-trump-10000
0-worth-of-pianos-then-he-stiffed-me/?tid=pm_opinions_pop_b&utm_term=.1df9b5d676f4
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I do NOT agree with you. Trump has a chance of being elected.
How low would Trump's chances have to go before you figured he was through? He's about 33% now. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-the-craziest-end-t
o-the-2016-campaign-runs-through-new-mexico/ Would 30% (close to where he is now) be 'safe' enough for you? 25% ? 5% ?
After the Republican convention his chances were 50%, a coin toss away from being President. One terror attack on Monday, Nov 7th and Trump will be back at 50% or more.
Trump is currently around 33% (see 538 above). The Paris attacks didn't seem to help him at all, while the San Bernardino attacks look like they helped him up from about 33% to maybe 36 - 37%.
Considering he's back down at 33%, I don't think Orlando or NYC helped him enough (if at all). Considering the paltry past bump, which has already faded, unless it's a really YUGE terror attack, I don't see him getting significant mileage. Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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This is a vital and key statement Kiki - "excruciating detail."
I know how much you hate Hillary, that goes without saying. And, as far as the republican-held Congress, a blind man could see that they would continue the obstruction-do-nothing agenda, if Hillary should win.
But I stop at the "antagonizing Russia plus more foreign military adventurism." Other than the war in Afghanistan where else could the U.S.
"venture" into? You want credit for predicting months ago that her campaign promises are empty? GRANTED.
You win. You are the all-knowing and all-seeing political guru of the decade.
I will alert the others.
SGG
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(cough cough fully-propagandized idiots cough cough) reason.
Really!? I thought we were past this, but here you are insulting people, and then you wonder why folks lash out at you. All this because you have this obsession with Hillary and you want what exactly? For her supporters to state
her record in Congress, as the Secretary of State and as what? a human being?
I will speak for myself. It's just not that important to me. I concede, you know a lot more about Hillary than I do. But I just don't give a shit. I would have preferred Warren, or to draft Obama and override term limits.
But that's not how it works, and I know that. I accept that this country
works the way things have been established, there's a method to the madness.
If you have a better way, then do whatever to make it so.
When I complained on the RWED about Bush/Cheney. When I correctly predicted
war, I was told tough nuggies - he's been elected, so go F yourself (I'm paraphrasing, of course). I had to live with the fact that sometimes shit happens and there's nothing you could do about it. You want to bully people
into doing what you do and write a dissertation about Hillary, well I, for one, I'm out, I started to actually look at Hillary's record and it hit me. I don't see things the way you do. I don't need to explain myself to anyone, unless I want to. So, complain all you want, you're entitled. If I choose to write a response, that's my decision.
In the grand scheme of things, this is but a pimple on the butt of humankind.
SGG
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Hey Mal4Prez,
It's official, call off the dogs - Kiki is now and forever the all-knowing and all-seeing wunderkind of the RWED. It's no use pretending that we know
anything, she has the market cornered on all things Hillary.
I may be over-reacting but, I'm truly tired. (actually, it was easy not mentioning you-know-who).
SGG
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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, tell me about what's OUT THERE REGARDING HILLARY. What makes her so good? (And avoid references to Donald, or your statement will cease to be about Hillary.)
Say, what was the title and topic of this thread again?
If you can't handle conversation about Trump, stay out of the Trump thread. There is a Hillary thread, ya know.
*smh*
Both of you - mashed potatoes from the forehead on back.
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BILL CLINTON: SOCIOPATH
Bill is probably worse than Hillary. Bill had a history, if you recall, of getting state troopers and his security detail to pick out women and bring them to him, where he would force himself on them through a combination of intimidation, surprise, and glamor, then pay for their silence with government jobs. The number of troopers, reporters and investigators who could have testified against Clinton and who died of "unnatural causes" in the 1992-1994 timeframe is truly astounding. Here, you don't have to believe the story, just count the names...
To this day, Bill shares quite a bit of time with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, having taken a dozen flights WITHOUT his security detail on the "Lolita Express".
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“Bill Clinton … associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile. Why would a former president associate with a man like that?” said Conchita Sarnoff of the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, Fox reported. Ms. Sarnoff also authored a book on Mr. Epstein titled “TrafficKing.”
Mr. Epstein was arrested in 2005 and signed a plea agreement in 2007 with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, accepting a single charge of soliciting prostitution. He agreed to a 30-month sentence, registered as a “Tier 1” sex offender with the U.S. Virgin Islands and paid dozens of young girls under a federal statute providing for compensation to victims of child sexual abuse.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/bill-clinton-ditched-s
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HILLARY'S RESPONSE TO ALL THIS
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Hillary Clinton Is Not a Feminist
Since Hillary announced that her husband would be joining her on the campaign trail, people have been debating whether or not it’s fair for the GOP to attack Bill’s sexual misdeeds in order to indirectly attack her.
This makes sense. After all, we’re talking about a guy who has been accused of the sexual assault of more than ten women. Think about it: How is her appointing him really any different than if she’d appointed Bill Cosby?
But here’s the thing: The real issue isn’t whether or not to attack Bill to indirectly attack Hillary — it’s about directly attacking Hillary for how she herself treated the women involved.
Hillary Clinton claims to be pro-women, yet has actively worked to ruin lives of so many of them. She’s running on a “feminist platform” — she’s even dared to say that sexual-assault survivors have a “right to be believed” — despite the fact that what she did to the women who accused Bill went far beyond not believing them.
She attacked them.
When allegations of sexual misconduct emerged during Bill’s 1992 presidential run, she’s reported to have said “Who is going to find out? These women are trash. Nobody’s going to believe them.” Multiple people also report that she called the women “sluts” and “whores” — you know, for daring to be raped. A private investigator named Ivan Duda claims that, after Bill lost his second governor’s race, Hillary told him: “I want you to get rid of all these b****** he’s seeing . . . I want you to give me the names and addresses and phone numbers, and we can get them under control.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429138/hillary-clinton-feminist-
bill-clinton-sexual-assault
And it's not like these suspicious activities stopped in 1995. The DNC staffer, Seth Rich, who was widely speculated to have been the source of 20,000 DNC emails sent to Wikileaks (i.e not Russia) was gunned down in an apparent "attempted robbery" ... although nothing was taken.
The investigation of Clinton's private email server, in which staff and Hillary herself demonstrated a concerted effort, with forethought and intent, to wipe and erase data (even after a subpoena was issued), was thoroughly compromised by Bill's "conversation" with DOJ Loretta Lynch
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Quote:Win or lose, you won't escape from Trumpism. There are a hundred thousand other elected Republican officials taking a dump on America this Monday morning in October. They aren't as famous as Trump, but they will be voting for him, they share his attitudes about money and foreigners, and they have power over American citizens right this moment, unlike Trump. There were already a bunch of little Trumps in powerful places before Big Trump goes down in electoral defeat.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Considering he's back down at 33%, I don't think Orlando or NYC helped him enough (if at all). Considering the paltry past bump, which has already faded, unless it's a really YUGE terror attack, I don't see him getting significant mileage.
The Death of Idealism
www.nytimes.com/2016/09/30/opinion/the-death-of-idealism.html
Trump was always a scuzzy version of the capitalist type. Somehow I got on the guest list of a few of the ’80s-era parties he hosted in the lobby of his skyscraper and would go for sociological entertainment. They were filled with the sort of B-grade celebrities and corrupt city officials who were desperate for any mention on the front and sixth pages of The New York Post.
As we saw Monday night, Trump now represents capitalism degraded to pure selfishness. He treats other people like objects and lies with abandon. Proud to be paying no taxes while others foot the bill, proud to have profited off the housing bust that caused so much suffering, he lacks even the barest conception of civic life and his responsibilities to it.
His ethos is: Get what I can for myself, and everyone else can take care of themselves. As Alexi Sargeant pointed out in First Things, “Trump’s policies, such as they are, usually come down to America breaking its promises.” Trump would have America break its promises to its NATO allies, Japan, its creditors, its trading partners and its own Constitution.
Trump reminds us — even those of us who champion capitalism — how corrosive capitalism can be when unaccompanied by a counterbalancing ethos of moral restraint.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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