Is 2016 the year of the Third Party?
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Thursday, June 5, 2025 14:21
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
After hearing Democrats chanting "Hilliary for Prison" I wonder how unfavorable she becomes in the upcoming polls. This is following Hilliary's latest scandal for subverting Bernie, disenfranchising Democrat voters, directing "news" retailers which fake stories to push and on which dates, etc.
And Libertarian showing rebounds after the other 2 conventions for New York Liberal #1 and New York Liberal #2.
https://libertarianvindicator.com/2016/08/03/gary-johnson-rebounds-in-
new-fox-news-poll-debate-stage-in-sight/
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CNN doesn't seem to allow a direct link to their most embarrassing olls, but if you look at the link soon, you can seen that the cnn/orc poll has Wisconsin giving Trump 45% over Hilliary's 43%.
http://www.cnn.com/election
This flip of WI helps keep both from reaching 270 Electoral Votes.
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I think you are deluding yourself.
When given a choice between two things, 98% of the population will not EVER go with an outside choice.
It's between Hillary or Trump, unless one gets murdered.
You aren't even competing with intelligence, you are competing with human nature, and that is something that is pretty immutable. People don't change.
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New 3rd party candidate enterz the rase: http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/8/1567859/-New-3rd-Party-Candid
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Recent poll: Gary Johnson gains, Trump moves ahead of Hilliary nationwide.
Of course, the nationwide polls are meaningless, except for qualifying inclusion in the debates.
Difficult to find polls which are including more than New York Liberal #1 and New York Liberal #2 in specific states. Looks like many states are considered tossups, yet no online poll data available.
http://www.inquisitr.com/3357391/gary-johnson-jill-stein-are-both-poll
ing-at-record-highs-are-americans-finally-waking-up-the-third-parties/
Newest Polls have Trump ahead in FL, OH, IA, AZ, GA, MO.
And Hilliary ahead in NC, NV, WA, CO, NH, MI, WI.
This indication of a tighter race means a third party could more easily deny them each the 270 Electoral Vote majority.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/5361/can-trump-beat-hillary-here-are-lat
est-polls-james-barrett#
And Real Clear Politics indicates that if Election held today, Hilliary would only win with 18 Electoral Vote margin, meaning a 9-vote swing or 18-vote denial would stop her from winning. No way the Republican House is going to elect her.
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Yep....
Just like most of the races we've witnessed in our lives, the only role 3rd party candidates hold are fucking up political polls.
I voted for Ron Paul.
I would never vote for Johnson/Weld.
Johnson might be a Libertarian, but he's so isolationist that he doesn't have a clue what's going on outside of the US.
Weld is a scary dude though. Among other things, he supports combining Canada and Mexico with the US, something like the European Union, with a single currency.
When I first heard about this idea 12 or more years ago, I thought we (the US) were the losers in that equation.
Today? I think Canada should be the one to tell us to fuck off if that ever comes off.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Recent poll: Gary Johnson gains, Trump moves ahead of Hilliary nationwide.
Of course, the nationwide polls are meaningless, except for qualifying inclusion in the debates.
Difficult to find polls which are including more than New York Liberal #1 and New York Liberal #2 in specific states. Looks like many states are considered tossups, yet no online poll data available.
http://www.inquisitr.com/3357391/gary-johnson-jill-stein-are-both-poll
ing-at-record-highs-are-americans-finally-waking-up-the-third-parties/
Newest Polls have Trump ahead in FL, OH, IA, AZ, GA, MO.
And Hilliary ahead in NC, NV, WA, CO, NH, MI, WI.
This indication of a tighter race means a third party could more easily deny them each the 270 Electoral Vote majority.
This would make FL, OH, IA flips for Trump compared to 2012, for 53 Electoral votes and 259 total. And NC would be a flip for Hilliary, knocking Trump Down to 244, and Hilliary with 296, or a 26 Electoral Vote swing at this point, if all other states were the same as 2012.
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Evan McMullin has 29% in polls in Utah, compared to Hilliary 28% and Trump 30%.
Not exactly a third party, but the same numbers apply - if he garners a win in Utah, these Electoral Votes could deny an Electoral College majority to the 2 New York Liberals.
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Third parties could still make a difference.
if McCullin takes Utah and throws the
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I'm not sure I've found the correct thread, but further info about Voter ID at Election time.
Of the 6 States in 2012 that required Photo ID to vote, 1 went to Obama, 5 went to Romney.
In 2016, there were 7 states, and it went 6-1.
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