The Obama presidency in numbers

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, August 5, 2016 12:53 AM

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And no data on Black Extremist Racists Assassinations of Police, either? An apparent increase of infinity?

Black anger at police killings of unarmed black citizens has increased due to high profile incidents captured on camera phones. Technology is shining a light on an ugly aspect of American society that has been ignored before now.

Obama's racially divisive agenda and racist aggression has been the ugliest aspect of American society which, before Obamination, was moderated instead of exacerbated by the likes of Obama.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, August 5, 2016 12:59 AM

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So how has the country been doing during President Obama's term in office? Here's a scattering of indicators and how they've changed from 2008 (the last year of the Bush presidency) to now:

1. Unemployment rate (U3): DOWN from 5.8 percent to 4.7 percent.
2. Underemployment rate (U6): DOWN from 10.6 percent to 9.6 percent.
3. Violent crime rate (per 100,000 residents): DOWN from 459 to 366.
4. Fear of crime: DOWN from 37 percent to 35 percent.
5. Uninsured rate: DOWN from 19.7 percent to 10.3 percent.
6. Number of illegal immigrants: DOWN from 11.8 million to 11.3 million.
7. Illegal immigrants from Mexico: DOWN from 6.6 million to 5.6 million.
8. Teen pregnancy rate (per thousand females): DOWN from 40 to 25.
9. Current account balance (trade deficit): DOWN from 4.6 percent of GDP to 2.3 percent of GDP.
10. American war deaths: DOWN from 469 to 28.
11. Inflation rate: DOWN from 3.8 percent to 1.1 percent.
12. Shootings of police officers: DOWN from 149 to 120.
13. Abortion rate (per thousand women): DOWN from 19 to 16.9 (through 2011).
14. Federal deficit: DOWN from 3.1 percent of GDP to 2.5 percent of GDP.
15. Drug abuse: DOWN from 22.4 million to 21.6 million (through 2013).
16. Drug abuse among teenagers: DOWN from 7.7 million to 5.2 million (through 2013).
17. Household debt (as percent of disposable income): DOWN from 12.8 percent to 10 percent.
18. Public high school graduation rate: UP from 74 percent to 82 percent (through 2013).

I'm not presenting this stuff because I think it will change anyone's mind. Nor because Obama necessarily deserves credit for all of them. You can decide that for yourself. It's mostly just to get it on the record. And it's worth noting that none of this may matter in the face of two other statistics that might be more important than all the rest put together:

19. Median household income: DOWN from $55,313 to $53,657 (through (2014).
20. Americans killed in terror attacks: UP from 14 to 50+ (so far in 2016).

If you measure household income more broadly, it looks better than the raw Census figures. And household income has finally started increasing over the past couple of years. On the terror front, the absolute number of American fatalities from terrorist attacks is obviously very small. Still, the number of brutal attacks in the US and Europe (the only ones Americans care about) has obviously spiked considerably over the past year.

Are these two things enough to outweigh everything else? Maybe. Come back in November and I'll tell you.

You also missed any information on the Federal Debt:
Using figures from this site, end of September figures:
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo
5.htm

Clinton went from $4.0 Trillion to $5.6 T, Bush43 went from $5.6 T to $10.0 T, and so far Obamination has gone from $10.0 T to $19.4 Trillion.

As an increase of Debt, this CBS report shows Obama had the largest increase in history, needing only 3 years and 2 months to exceed what Bush took 8 years (the last 2 under Democrat control of Congress) to do (including launching military operations to combat what Clinton avoided).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-oba
ma-than-under-bush/

As a percentage, Bush's 8 years increased 78.5% and Obama only needed 6 years to achieve that dubious milestone, getting to $17.82 T in 2014.

Not including Obama's QE request that is tacked onto Bush's figures, Obama has doubled the federal debt. This means he has created more Federal Debt than the previous 43 Presidents combined - that means added all together.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, August 5, 2016 2:25 AM

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Originally posted by kpo:
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So how has the country been doing during President Obama's term in office? Here's a scattering of indicators and how they've changed from 2008 (the last year of the Bush presidency) to now:

1. Unemployment rate (U3): DOWN from 5.8 percent to 4.7 percent.
2. Underemployment rate (U6): DOWN from 10.6 percent to 9.6 percent.
3. Violent crime rate (per 100,000 residents): DOWN from 459 to 366.
4. Fear of crime: DOWN from 37 percent to 35 percent.
5. Uninsured rate: DOWN from 19.7 percent to 10.3 percent.
6. Number of illegal immigrants: DOWN from 11.8 million to 11.3 million.
7. Illegal immigrants from Mexico: DOWN from 6.6 million to 5.6 million.
8. Teen pregnancy rate (per thousand females): DOWN from 40 to 25.
9. Current account balance (trade deficit): DOWN from 4.6 percent of GDP to 2.3 percent of GDP.
10. American war deaths: DOWN from 469 to 28.
11. Inflation rate: DOWN from 3.8 percent to 1.1 percent.
12. Shootings of police officers: DOWN from 149 to 120.
13. Abortion rate (per thousand women): DOWN from 19 to 16.9 (through 2011).
14. Federal deficit: DOWN from 3.1 percent of GDP to 2.5 percent of GDP.
15. Drug abuse: DOWN from 22.4 million to 21.6 million (through 2013).
16. Drug abuse among teenagers: DOWN from 7.7 million to 5.2 million (through 2013).
17. Household debt (as percent of disposable income): DOWN from 12.8 percent to 10 percent.
18. Public high school graduation rate: UP from 74 percent to 82 percent (through 2013).

I'm not presenting this stuff because I think it will change anyone's mind. Nor because Obama necessarily deserves credit for all of them. You can decide that for yourself. It's mostly just to get it on the record. And it's worth noting that none of this may matter in the face of two other statistics that might be more important than all the rest put together:

19. Median household income: DOWN from $55,313 to $53,657 (through (2014).
20. Americans killed in terror attacks: UP from 14 to 50+ (so far in 2016).

If you measure household income more broadly, it looks better than the raw Census figures. And household income has finally started increasing over the past couple of years. On the terror front, the absolute number of American fatalities from terrorist attacks is obviously very small. Still, the number of brutal attacks in the US and Europe (the only ones Americans care about) has obviously spiked considerably over the past year.

Are these two things enough to outweigh everything else? Maybe. Come back in November and I'll tell you.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/07/18-great-trends-obama-ad
ministration%E2%80%94and-2-terrible-ones

And this site:
http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html
shows that while Obama claims attractive figures for unemployment, we have 151 Million in the US Work Force and 94 Million Not In Labor Force (meaning they have given up trying to get work after so many years of Obaminomics). That is 38.4% NILF.
Yet, adjusted for population growth, in 2000 we had 155 Million in the US Work Force and only 79 Million Not In Labor Force.
Actual 2000 number were 135 M and 69 M, for 33.8% NILF.
In 2008 it was 144 USWF and 80 NILF, for 35.7%.
Thus further proof your fantasy Obama numbers are nothing but lies.

1KIKI

Friday, August 5, 2016 2:44 AM

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This vote will be a referendum on Obama v 'ANYthing is better than more of the same'. And for many people "it's the economy, stupid". How has Obama's economy been for Main Street?

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Better than Bush's.

Well, that's what happens when you post assuming that no one will bother looking up the facts. You get caught with your pants down. Again.

http://economistsview.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b33869e201b8d194d676970
c-500wi

Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, August 5, 2016 4:22 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Originally posted by kpo:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
This vote will be a referendum on Obama v 'ANYthing is better than more of the same'. And for many people "it's the economy, stupid". How has Obama's economy been for Main Street?

Better than Bush's.

Well, that's what happens when you post assuming that no one will bother looking up the facts. You get caught with your pants down. Again.

http://economistsview.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b33869e201b8d194d676970
c-500wi

Well look at the bright side. Obama depressed American incomes down to the level that Reagan got it up to, and left it at. Now the next President will be able to start at the point that Reagan handed it off at, except without Reaganomics in force to push it up.

1KIKI

Friday, August 5, 2016 4:32 AM

AHEM!!

Reagan 1981 to 1989

HOUSEHOLD INCOME went up as women went to work. More wage-earners per household = higher household income.

WAGES fell! DUH!

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Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, August 5, 2016 5:42 AM

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You seem to be missing all the data on "workplace violence" (as Obama now calls it) that is really the Islamic Jihadist Extremist Terrorist attacks within America's borders.
Hmmmm?

White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States

White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States, according to a study by the New America Foundation. The Washington-based research organization did a review of “terror” attacks on US soil since Sept. 11, 2001 and found that most of them were carried out by radical anti-government groups or white supremacists.

Almost twice as many people have died in attacks by right-wing groups in America than have died in attacks by Muslim extremists. Of the 26 attacks since 9/11 that the group defined as terror, 19 were carried out by non-Muslims. Yet there are no white Americans languishing inside the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay. And there are no drones dropping bombs on gatherings of military-age males in the country's lawless border regions.

Attacks by right-wing groups get comparatively little coverage in the news media. Most people will struggle to remember the shooting at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin that killed six people in 2012. A man who associated with neo-Nazi groups carried out that shooting. There was also the married couple in Las Vegas who walked into a pizza shop and murdered two police officers. They left a swastika on one of the bodies before killing a third person in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Such attacks are not limited to one part of the country. In 2011, two white supremacists went on a shooting spree in the Pacific Northwest, killing four people.

More from GlobalPost: Turns out people get angry when you say white Americans are terrorists, too.

Science. Facts. Reichwingers no likey. ^

http://www.globalpost.com/article/6...icans-are-biggest-terror-threat-
united-states

Jihadist attacks are so rare here as to be inconsequential. Stop buying the fear Faux and reichwing media have pounded into your feeble brain, and look at the facts.

Shore yo right.
As long as Islamo-fascist Extremist Jihadists like Major Hasan are re-classified as workplace violence, the figures obviously follow into the same type of delusional surrealism that Obama resides in.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, August 5, 2016 5:44 AM

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, August 5, 2016 5:46 AM

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, August 5, 2016 5:47 AM

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