The Obama presidency in numbers

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UPDATED: Tuesday, May 20, 2025 01:01
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Hey, looks like at least one of those posted.
I kept getting error messages from FFN, saying the post didn't work. Kept trying until the computer locked up.

All of the above were the same post.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

You seem to be missing all the data on "workplace violence" (as Obama now calls it) that is really the Islamic Jihadist Extremist Terrorist attacks within America's borders.
Hmmmm?

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White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States


White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States, according to a study by the New America Foundation. The Washington-based research organization did a review of “terror” attacks on US soil since Sept. 11, 2001 and found that most of them were carried out by radical anti-government groups or white supremacists.

Almost twice as many people have died in attacks by right-wing groups in America than have died in attacks by Muslim extremists. Of the 26 attacks since 9/11 that the group defined as terror, 19 were carried out by non-Muslims. Yet there are no white Americans languishing inside the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay. And there are no drones dropping bombs on gatherings of military-age males in the country's lawless border regions.

Attacks by right-wing groups get comparatively little coverage in the news media. Most people will struggle to remember the shooting at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin that killed six people in 2012. A man who associated with neo-Nazi groups carried out that shooting. There was also the married couple in Las Vegas who walked into a pizza shop and murdered two police officers. They left a swastika on one of the bodies before killing a third person in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Such attacks are not limited to one part of the country. In 2011, two white supremacists went on a shooting spree in the Pacific Northwest, killing four people.

More from GlobalPost: Turns out people get angry when you say white Americans are terrorists, too.

Science. Facts. Reichwingers no likey. ^

http://www.globalpost.com/article/6...icans-are-biggest-terror-threat-
united-states

Jihadist attacks are so rare here as to be inconsequential. Stop buying the fear Faux and reichwing media have pounded into your feeble brain, and look at the facts.

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Shore yo right.
As long as Islamo-fascist Extremist Jihadists like Major Hasan are re-classified as workplace violence, the figures obviously follow into the same type of delusional surrealism that Obama resides in.

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Talk to yourself, much?

Anyway, tons of mass shootings. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jone
s-full-data If mass shootings make for domestic terrorism, 48 were White, 14 Black, 6 each Asian and Latino, 5 'Other', 3 Native America, and 1 'Unclear'.

By the numbers, Whites are the biggest problem.

As for domestic bombings, there was the Oklahoma City bombing, April 19, 1995. 168 were killed, 680+ were injured, and I hope I don't have to remind you, both Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were White. No other domestic bombing even comes close.

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Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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There are certain folks here that don't like the FACTS as presented, makes for too much thinking on their part. Hurts their puny brains. Of course, you know they'll blame Obama.......that seems to be the going trend. Besides, it
fits into the little box-for-brains they have (reduces the chance of overload).

It's funny how they scream bloody murder when their POV doesn't get coverage, but present them with these set of facts and.........silence.


SGG

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Originally posted by reaverfan:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

You seem to be missing all the data on "workplace violence" (as Obama now calls it) that is really the Islamic Jihadist Extremist Terrorist attacks within America's borders.
Hmmmm?

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White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States


White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States, according to a study by the New America Foundation. The Washington-based research organization did a review of “terror” attacks on US soil since Sept. 11, 2001 and found that most of them were carried out by radical anti-government groups or white supremacists.

Almost twice as many people have died in attacks by right-wing groups in America than have died in attacks by Muslim extremists. Of the 26 attacks since 9/11 that the group defined as terror, 19 were carried out by non-Muslims. Yet there are no white Americans languishing inside the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay. And there are no drones dropping bombs on gatherings of military-age males in the country's lawless border regions.

Attacks by right-wing groups get comparatively little coverage in the news media. Most people will struggle to remember the shooting at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin that killed six people in 2012. A man who associated with neo-Nazi groups carried out that shooting. There was also the married couple in Las Vegas who walked into a pizza shop and murdered two police officers. They left a swastika on one of the bodies before killing a third person in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Such attacks are not limited to one part of the country. In 2011, two white supremacists went on a shooting spree in the Pacific Northwest, killing four people.

More from GlobalPost: Turns out people get angry when you say white Americans are terrorists, too.

Science. Facts. Reichwingers no likey. ^

http://www.globalpost.com/article/6...icans-are-biggest-terror-threat-
united-states

Jihadist attacks are so rare here as to be inconsequential. Stop buying the fear Faux and reichwing media have pounded into your feeble brain, and look at the facts.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Well, that's what happens when you post assuming that no one will bother looking up the facts.

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It's not a question of facts, it's a question of analysis of the facts. I contend that the suffering "on Main Street" in the Obama years was mainly the legacy of the fiscal irresponsibility (record deficits) and the huge financial crisis in the Bush years.

You are free to disagree, but I think there are few economists who would.


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I contend that the suffering "on Main Street" in the Obama years was mainly the legacy of the fiscal irresponsibility (record deficits) and the huge financial crisis in the Bush years.

Unfortunately I couldn't find a graph that went back to HW Bush and also included Obama. But this makes the point pretty well that Clinton's presidency was an anomaly.



The thing that was remarkable about GW Bush was that he took something - the Federal coffers - that was working well for the first time since - maybe ever - and broke it.

But GW Bush wasn't the only problem in the 2007 crisis. Through the repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act in 1999 signed into law by Bill Clinton (and which was prompted by Basel I in 1988) and other deregulatory moves (that took place during Bill's administration as well as before), and through Bush federal preemption policy that blocked the state attorneys general from acting on predatory loans http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-08/they-warned-us-about
-the-mortgage-crisis the crisis was preordained from the US side. The Europeans also have a lot to answer for.

From the US side, many bad loans were INTENTIONALLY written WITHOUT OVERSIGHT. The reason for that was because at the time, the only thing that made the US economy look good was the housing bubble. These bad loans were then sold and used as collateral by big UNREGULATED investment firms and underwritten by large insurers. WHEN THE HOUSING MARKET COOLED (and since it was a bubble, it was bound to happen as it reached saturation), suddenly the underlying value of the loans on which the whole house of cards was built came into question. That's when it all fell apart.

BTW, with low, LOW, LOW! capitalization requirements, every time a bundle of loans was repackaged and resold as an 'asset' on which to base more loans, its value went up two orders of magnitude - it was multiplied by 100.

Now, my contention AT THE TIME was that the US government could have stabilized the entire structure for roughly a thousandth of a penny on the dollar by insuring the underlying home loans instead of repairing the many-hundreds-of-times-multiplied overlying investments. But I haven't seen that in print anywhere.

So, blame goes to historical deregulation before Bill. Another portion goes to Bill for the deregulation he allowed and enacted. A chunk of blame goes to Europe and Basel I and England's own bubble (and I remember reading about the one person who warned years ahead of time about the impending crash of the RBS). Dumbya leaned into it by allowing bad loans because the housing bubble was the only thing that made the economy look good, and by driving the US into deep debt, leaving the government in perilous condition to deal with the crash. Then, imo, the government spent trillions of dollars making speculative investments whole, rather than the far cheaper option of guaranteeing underlying loans. All together, trillions of dollars were sent by the US directly to banks and investment firms. It never made it to the consumer, where it could have potentially lifted the economy.

And BTW, that's where things STILL stand today. All that QE is going to banks, which are taking that low-interest money and gambling in the various stock markets - another bubble about to crash if there ever was one, and the only bright economic spot around.

It's not going to the workers and consumers, who've seen their real paychecks, family income, and accumulated value fall, ever since 2007.

You are free to disagree, but I think there are few economists who would.

Finally, since you claim 'many economists' agree with you (few economists disagree), how about linking 'many'?

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Let me just point out that the author

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