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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria

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Thursday, August 4, 2016 8:59 PM

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"An" airstrike on "a" hospital.... who knows when? Who knows where? Who knows by whom?- SIGNY

Where else are hospitals routinely bombed but rebel-held Syria?

Well, first of all you have no idea whether this was "routine" or not. It's a random video from who-knows-when.
You have no idea whether this was a "bombing" or not. It could have been a shelling.
And you have no idea whether this was in Syria nor not. Hospitals have also been bombed ... and shelled ... in Iraq.

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And by whom else but Assad and Putin?
Americans have bombed hospitals, and rebels have shelled them.

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What other past incidents of airstrikes on hospitals are you thinking of that this could be mistaken for, and why has the footage of it emerged only now?
I just told you.

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Another CCTV video of an Aleppo hospital being bombed, verified by the UK's Channel 4 News:




Curiously, when I look up the April al Quds hospital bombing, neither MSF nor any reportage at the time or any person on the ground identifies the attacker. They consistently refer to "an airstrike" without saying whether it was Syrian, Russian, American, British, or French. Its only interpolation by the MSM that inserts any reference at all to who the putative attacker might be, and then only by insinuation. Here's an example

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A Syrian hospital backed by Médecins Sans Frontières and the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has been destroyed in an airstrike in Aleppo, killing patients and doctors including one of the last paediatricians remaining in the rebel-held part of the city.

MSF said the al-Quds hospital was targeted in an airstrike on Wednesday that killed 14 patients and staff members including at least two doctors, with the toll expected to rise.

The latest attack is part of a broader pattern of systematic targeting of hospitals by the government of Bashar al-Assad

Insinuation

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as the humanitarian situation in the divided commercial capital of Syria grows more desperate under intense combat.

“MSF categorically condemns this outrageous targeting of yet another medical facility in Syria,” said Muskilda Zancada, MSF’s head of mission in Syria. “This devastating attack has destroyed a vital hospital in Aleppo, and the main referral centre for paediatric care in the area. Where is the outrage among those with the power and obligation to stop this carnage?”

— MSF International (@MSF)
April 28, 2016
We are outraged at the destruction of Al Quds hospital in #Aleppo, #Syria. Hospitals are #notatarget

— MSF International (@MSF)
April 28, 2016
Our supported hospital in #Aleppo was the main referral centre for paediatrics and had 8 doctors & 28 nurses. Hospitals #notatarget, #Syria

- MSF International (@MSF)
April 28, 2016
@MSF-supported hospital in #Aleppo had an ER, an intensive care unit, an operating theatre. Now destroyed. Hospitals are #notatarget #Syria

Marianne Gasser, head of the International Committee of the Red Cross’s Syria mission, said in a statement: “The recent attack on the ICRC-supported Quds hospital is unacceptable and sadly this is not the first time the lifesaving medical services have been hit.

“We urge all the parties to spare the civilians. Don’t attack hospitals, don’t use weapons that cause widespread damage. Otherwise, Aleppo will be pushed further to the brink of humanitarian disaster.”

Neither the ICRC nor MSF assigned blame for the attack, BUT

of course that won't stop the western press from implying that it was the Russians or Syrians that did it ...

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the Syrian and Russian air forces have carried out almost all the aerial strikes on the opposition-controlled east of the city. The ICRC said the intense battles raging in Aleppo could put millions at grave risk of a humanitarian catastrophe.

Fresh airstrikes on Thursday on the reb

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KPO
Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:24 PM

Sig, I'm just going to zero in on this:

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KPO - "What other past incidents of airstrikes on hospitals are you thinking of that this could be mistaken for, and why has the footage of it emerged only now?"
Sig - "I just told you."


Err, no you didn't.

So again. Why would the footage from a bombed hospital in Iraq or elsewhere, from months or years ago, emerge now, released by opposition media in rebel-held Syria?


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Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:30 PM

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Americans have bombed hospitals, and rebels have shelled them.




Notice how SIG says Americans have bombed hospitals. An American would say WE have bombed hospitals. Another slip comrade. That plus the fact that once again, Russia and Syria are innocent of all charges.


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Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:36 PM

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Americans have bombed hospitals, and rebels have shelled them. - SIGNY

Notice how SIG says Americans have bombed hospitals. An American would say WE have bombed hospitals. Another slip comrade.= STUPID

Yes, Putin placed me here in 2004. Wasn't that clever of him???

OMFG, you have got a delusion that just doesn't quit, does it? If I had said "we" you would have said AHA! You take responsibility for Russian Bombing! That proves that you're Russian!

There are many national forces bombing in Syria, including French and British. I specified "American" to distinguish it from other nations; it's the best description I could find.

Don't be a troll.

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Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:41 PM

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So again. Why would the footage from a bombed hospital in Iraq or elsewhere, from months or years ago, emerge now, released by opposition media in rebel-held Syria?
Do you know that's it's only been just released? This wouldn't be the first time that something was tweeted months or even years later, from a country far away, by someone claiming it to be part of a more recent event.

That's one of the things that the news outlets do, they do search for previous-released images to see if they've been seen before. There was an article about that a couple of years ago, it was very interesting because they showed the image and what it was claimed as (civilians injured in Venezuela, for example) and explained what it really was (boy being treated in Lebanon). You should look it up, it was fascinating.

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KPO
Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:48 PM

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I don't have time to look into this further right now, and prolly not later either.

That's convenient, it means you didn't get as far in the article as this:

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The Syrian government considers any medical facilities in opposition-held territory as legitimate military targets, saying that they are de facto illegal.



Or this:

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As early as 2013, the UN independent commission of inquiry investigating alleged war crimes in Syria said attacks on medical facilities were being used systematically as a weapon of war by the Assad regime.



Or this:

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In February last year, the NGO Physicians for Human Rights said it had documented 224 attacks on 175 health facilities since the start of the conflict, and 599 medical personnel had been killed. The attacks continued after the Russian intervention – the organisation documented at least 10 attacks by Russian aircraft on medical facilities in October alone, the first month of Russia’s aerial campaign.


Here's the link, which you neglected to post - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/28/deadly-airstrike-on-hosp
ital-aleppo-syria-reports-say



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Friday, August 5, 2016 4:23 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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So again. Why would the footage from a bombed hospital in Iraq or elsewhere, from months or years ago, emerge now, released by opposition media in rebel-held Syria?
Do you know that's it's only been just released? This wouldn't be the first time that something was tweeted months or even years later, from a country far away, by someone claiming it to be part of a more recent event.

That's one of the things that the news outlets do, they do search for previous-released images to see if they've been seen before. There was an article about that a couple of years ago, it was very interesting because they showed the image and what it was claimed as (civilians injured in Venezuela, for example) and explained what it really was (boy being treated in Lebanon). You should look it up, it was fascinating.




You're too easy SIG. It's your complete 100% defense of all things Russia that proves me to be right. Really, all the shit going on and when asked of you what if anything has Putin done wrong, WAIT FOR IT. He was too soft on some foreign countries. Lol, fuck you comrade.

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KPO
Friday, August 5, 2016 5:38 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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So again. Why would the footage from a bombed hospital in Iraq or elsewhere, from months or years ago, emerge now, released by opposition media in rebel-held Syria?
Do you know that's it's only been just released? This wouldn't be the first time that something was tweeted months or even years later, from a country far away, by someone claiming it to be part of a more recent event.


Sure, I've seen many examples of Russian media doing this.

So you speculate that the footage could be from a past hospital bombing, and you say that there are specific Middle Eastern hospital bombings that you are aware of. Well then, all you have to do is put both of these ideas together - do a few quick Google searches and see if the CCTV footage is from one of these old bombings. The CCTV footage is very shocking and recognisable, and the bombing of a hospital is particularly newsworthy, so it will surely not be too difficult to find.

Let us know how you get on.


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KPO
Friday, August 5, 2016 6:37 PM

Another bombed hospital in rebel-controlled Idlib last week, Russia/Assad blamed:

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Medics and civilians in a war-torn province of Syria are trying to rebuild a vital maternity hospital after it was hit by air strikes in the latest attack on health facilities.

Two people were killed in Friday’s bombing, which destroyed part of the building as two operations were underway and a woman went into labour.

Save the Children, which supports the hospital, said six newborn babies were injured when the blast sent their incubators crashing to the floor and a woman who was six months pregnant had her leg severed.

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Amnesty International blamed Syrian or Russian forces for the strike, saying it fitted a “despicable pattern of unlawful attacks deliberately targeting medical facilities”.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-civil-war-as
sad-russia-air-strikes-deaths-bombing-hospitals-idlib-maternity-clinic-babies-a7163691.html



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Friday, August 5, 2016 7:47 PM

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Well then, all you have to do is put both of these ideas together - do a few quick Google searches and see if the CCTV footage is from one of these old bombings. The CCTV footage is very shocking and recognisable, and the bombing of a hospital is particularly newsworthy, so it will surely not be too difficult to find.

Let us know how you get on.

Dood, you want me to vet YOUR information and YOUR allegations for you?


That's not how it works. Stop being lazy and do it yourself. Until you do, your post is just so much fluff. And the longer you take to get on with it, the more I start thinking that you can't vet your own assertions, so I suggest that you start now.

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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

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